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  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-06-26 21:07
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    Let me know how AutoCAD, Solidworks, Photoshop and Premier work out on Linux. I would switch but have yet to find any of these work.
    I used Photoshop up until 10 years ago, then i switched to GIMP and even taught classes on it last year. I think Gimp is very good but then i haven't used Photoshop for ten years !

    If Premier is the video editor...I don't think there is anything particularly good about it ?
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-06-27 08:03
    @Whiteox

    What about wireless printers on a windows based network?
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-06-27 08:43
    KMyers wrote: »
    @Whiteox

    What about wireless printers on a windows based network?

    I don't think you could call it a windows based network, that only has to do with windows machines and the printers and routers aren't windows specific, in fact they are probably running some Linux O/S. Anyway, I tend to favour HP printers these days as they just seem to work, and there are other reasons too plus HP support Linux and Smartphone printing.

    A funny thing happens every-time I plug a new USB device into a Windows machine, even if it's just a mouse or a flash drive it ends up taking quite a while to become usable as Windows proudly announces that it is installing "device drivers" and binging and bonging while I'm just longing for it to finish. Do the same thing on a Linux machine and it just works, instantly! Go figure.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-27 08:59
    My set up is a wifi router (loaded with Linux) that has two USB ports. One USB port goes to my Fuji-Xerox laser printer.

    So all the wifi computers and all the computers on the wired LAN share the service. I don't have to turn on a computer to get printer service as the router is the printer server.
    And the printer and router don't seem to care whether I am using Windows or Linux or whatever ... as long as I configure them right.

    GIMP as a lot of add in features -- all free. These days I am using it for animation editting. And GIMP is tied into the 'grand-daddy' of image conversion tools, called ImageMagik.

    ImageMagik has a comand line version that can do some wonderful things, like resize all your images for a web page catalog to a standard size and resolution in one batch run. These could get really tedious if you had 500 photos of orchids to put into a catalog (which I did).

    AutoCAD is never going to become available in a Linux version. If I really needed it, I'd simply accept the fact that I had to use Windows and buy all the licenses.

    There are video editors. I would probably want something in an Apple OS for that and might as well have the AutoCAD for Apple. These highly graphic areas have always been very proprietary, but Apple seems to have done things better than Windows if you have the cash to buy these.

    Linux does have a fun animator that is professional quality called Blender and is at least a good place for a student of animation to get started before being buried by big hardware and software expenses.

    http://www.blender.org/
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-06-27 09:01
    I agree with the HP printers also. Just cant see my Raspi in my Netgear wireless router. Just updated the firmware for it a couple months ago. Might be time for a new router?
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-27 10:08
    From what I can see, the Wireless Printers are not wifi, they are Bluetooth.

    http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/bt/

    http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/374514-control-wireless-on-the-linux-desktop-with-these-tools

    But there is no reason that I couldn't plug a Bluetooth dongle in my open USB port on the router and load some wifi applications to snoop and install. From there, it might be possible to have it bridge the wireless printer to wifi and LAN. I have never tried. I might even be able to have a Bluetooth to world wide web set up. My cellular phone and my Zire72 might find that useful.

    No sure what I am getting into here. But it certainly is handy to have the printer work with wireless devices, both in wifi and Bluetooth.

    ++++++++++++++
    A lot of the multi-purpose printers (fax-copier-printer) do not have drivers in Linux. You need a separate item for each. That means a regular fax modem or fax modem card and a separate scanner. I got rid of my scanner and just use my Canon SX150 to photo graph any document I used to scan. It takes up a lot less space and is much faster. But I guess I don't have an OCR features.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-06-27 15:44
    From what I can see, the Wireless Printers are not wifi, they are Bluetooth.

    http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/bt/

    http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/374514-control-wireless-on-the-linux-desktop-with-these-tools

    But there is no reason that I couldn't plug a Bluetooth dongle in my open USB port on the router and load some wifi applications to snoop and install. From there, it might be possible to have it bridge the wireless printer to wifi and LAN. I have never tried. I might even be able to have a Bluetooth to world wide web set up. My cellular phone and my Zire72 might find that useful.

    No sure what I am getting into here. But it certainly is handy to have the printer work with wireless devices, both in wifi and Bluetooth.

    ++++++++++++++
    A lot of the multi-purpose printers (fax-copier-printer) do not have drivers in Linux. You need a separate item for each. That means a regular fax modem or fax modem card and a separate scanner. I got rid of my scanner and just use my Canon SX150 to photo graph any document I used to scan. It takes up a lot less space and is much faster. But I guess I don't have an OCR features.

    Ahem, I've never seen a bluetooth printer and even the $40 printers are wifi. SANE handles the scanning but who would use a fax? (same people who would send a telegram I suppose).
  • 4x5n4x5n Posts: 745
    edited 2014-06-27 16:35
    KMyers wrote: »
    @Whiteox

    What about wireless printers on a windows based network?

    My network at home is all Linux, Solaris and MacOS so this isn't an issue for me. My workhorse (HP LaserJet IV) is network attached and a non-issue. The other smaller laserprinter is usb attached and attached to my in home server via USB and prints via Cups. For me printing is easy-peasy!!
  • 4x5n4x5n Posts: 745
    edited 2014-06-27 16:41
    Ahem, I've never seen a bluetooth printer and even the $40 printers are wifi. SANE handles the scanning but who would use a fax? (same people who would send a telegram I suppose).

    I used to have a modem that would "do fax" and I've sent many a fax through it from a Linux machine. Personally I didn't know that anyone used fax machines anymore!

    I thought that scan-to-pdf and email has become the way ppl do things.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-06-27 17:10
    'Late to the party, but I also use Linux: an oooold Ubuntu version that serves as a headless firewall and email client (kmail) that I pretty much ignore and have only rebooted couple times in years. My non-critical office computer is old, and I try out various Linux versions on it from time to time just for fun. I am partial to KDE over other window managers, though.

    The shop computer is strictly Windows (currently XP -- hey it didn't quit working just because Microsoft no longer supports it). I have apps on that machine that I cut my teeth on and am loathe to abandon. I DO NOT have automatic updates enabled. It works just fine -- most of the time -- why mess with it?

    I have to say, though, that the least troublesome OS I use is OS/X on a Macbook Pro. It Just Works -- always. I absolutely HATE the Macbook keyboard, though. It's like typing on a pillow. (My WinXP shop machine has an original IBM made-in-the-USA Model M keyboard. It's like typing on a Selectric typewriter.)

    -Phil
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-06-27 17:12

    Linux does have a fun animator that is professional quality called Blender and is at least a good place for a student of animation to get started before being buried by big hardware and software expenses.

    http://www.blender.org/


    Ive used blender (for a day) and made a submarine. It was a lot of fun. I was also doing online UNITY TUTORIALS, and that was the reason i had a look at blender.

    Unity is that game engine that many companies use.

    My 'wealthy' family members use Mac's. I love em. (the macs, not the family ;)
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-27 19:29
    Who would use a fax?
    One of my Taiwanese friend's has a steel trading company, and occassionally a customer or potential customer will want to communicate by fax. Or sometmes a local bank wants to send a draft of a letter of credit. For a quick hand-written note, a drawing, or rough draft; it is very handy... after all, it takes the same amount of time to scan -- but goes without bothering with a computer.

    25 years ago, I use to bid construction projects on bid day via a fax machine. One would send in their bid 10 to 15 minutes before the deadline and have confirmation it arrived.

    When the customer or a bank wants to communicate that way, it can be handy... especially a new customer.

    You just have to realize that Asians never throw anything away and never want to buy new software or hardware unless it is some sort of status symbol.

    I have a 56Kbaud fax modem tucked away for a rainy day or a fun Propeller project.

    ++++++++++
    I am not sure that I have ever seen a Bluetooth printer either, but my Palm Zire72 has software to print wirelessly via Bluetooth to ones. And their are Bluetooth adapters for computers to communicate with wireless printers.

    Somebody buys this stuff.. not me. Some cellular phones and PDAs will allow you to print out backups of your data, schedules, and call lists this way.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-06-27 19:36
    I sent a fax yesterday to a company. Because i didn't want to ring them and get put on hold etc etc. Its called PAMFAX widows app . 14 cents per fax.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-06-27 19:49
    whiteoxe wrote: »
    I sent a fax yesterday to a company. Because i didn't want to ring them and get put on hold etc etc. Its called PAMFAX widows app . 14 cents per fax.

    and pray tell, what is wrong with an emailed pdf? (not docx no no no), zero cents per document. I have camscanner on my phone, point and shoot and it corrects and squares up the image into a pdf ready to share.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-06-27 19:56
    well nothing i guess. I installed pamfax years ago. I had forgotten all about it till i was looking at the files on an old USb stick, it had the installer on it, so i installed and found I had a few bucks there to spend, so i used it !!!!

    edit: Im currently running Ubuntu Studio Live on my laptop. its got some interesting programs to play with. I like the dictionary, when you look up a word you get all the usual stuff plus it's origins and Wikipedia entries of the word !! pretty cool.
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-06-28 08:05
    Havent used or seen a fax in years. Did get them once a day 10 years ago for underground utility locates. Always hated the paper on them...
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-06-28 08:34
    Last century I had to transfer a rather large sum of money very quickly. My bank insisted that they needed my signature. A letter would do but that was going to be too slow in the post. Then they said a FAX would do. WTF?! Don't you know anyone can create my signature on a FAX? Rather than explain the point I just got on with it.

    Hopefully they are a bit wiser now.

    Certainly I have not used FAX since the 1990's.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2014-06-29 22:40
    I have a very nice modern Bluetooth printer . HP office Jet 100 ..... With External batt. From a Old palm PDA any of my computers it can print like a charm .. Ink is a ripoff but Its HP ....... ( the canon version has NO linux support )
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-29 23:40
    Heater. wrote: »
    Last century I had to transfer a rather large sum of money very quickly. My bank insisted that they needed my signature. A letter would do but that was going to be too slow in the post. Then they said a FAX would do. WTF?! Don't you know anyone can create my signature on a FAX? Rather than explain the point I just got on with it.

    Hopefully they are a bit wiser now.

    Certainly I have not used FAX since the 1990's.

    Yes indeed, wire fraud laws have accepted signatures of faxed documents to be binding for a long time. The usual procedure is to send the fax with a cover transmittal and to follow up by registered post with the original document.

    Contractually binding documents can be purchase orders or construction bids, not just requests for the transfer of funds.

    I used to do this several times a week when I was bidding major office building foundation excavations. The money involved easily exceeded six figures in USD on a regular basis.

    The practice is still valid in business; both local and international
    ==========

    Of course, things have apparently moved on. I am required to file an annual US Treasury form of all foreign bank accounts and assets. Last year and for many prior years I did this via registered letter.

    They won't accept anything but a digital transmission any more. I had to get the latest copy of software from Adobe. Download their PDF form. Fill it out. Digitally sign it. And then go through transmittal that assigns a verification code and number.

    ++++++++++
    My bank will do wire transfers for me without a fax, but I won't mention the details of how. But it wasn't so long ago that I was sending them faxes to do this.

    The new procedure takes establishing your identity and purpose in a different manner. And of course, if the wire transfer is done fraudulently, it can be quickly reversed. They want more backup if you are wiring money to someone other than yourself and if your wire destination is a new one.

    If you are stuck in a foreign land and penniless due to scam or theft, finding a fax machine at a 7-11 or hotel might quickly get funds transmitted to you from your own bank account if you have a foreign bank account.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2014-06-30 06:20
    We still have a fax machine at work, and occasionally a customer will transmit something to it.

    The Norwegian customs services as well as the post office have fax machines. They use them for transmitting various customs documents. Seems to be both fast and efficient (I'm all for it because every time they do this a package for me gets released for delivery.. :))

    Fax machines are also still widely deployed in Japan.

    I'm not so sure about getting emergency funds via fax machine though.. I had to do that only once, about 30 years ago. The funds arrived, but it took nearly a week and I was back home again by then. Had to fight with the bank afterwards to a) get the funds back, and b) not having to pay the fee for a service they couldn't perform in a reasonable time. I succeded in both as I recall, but I've never trusted in that particular concept after that.

    -Tor
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-30 08:30
    You may be right about wire transfer of emergency funds. My major credit card can to cash advance from an ATM in Thailand or Hong Kong, but not it Taiwan. The foreign currency transactions add a 1% fee.

    My bank says it will get a replacement credit card, a replacement passport, and/or cash to me in an oversea emergency within 48 hours... at least they said that 20 years ago. It is a Federal chartered bank for US military and their dependents, so oversea services are much easier and better than Citiband or BofA.
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-06-30 14:38
    Well not to change current conversation but I will. I am posting this from Linux Mint 17. I used live cd to boot but looks like I am going to convert all the way!
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-06-30 18:52
    Ive got Mint installed on my PC and Ubuntu on my laptop. My laptop erased widows completely so it happy and runs better with just Linux now. Ive started to play a tiny bit with running live cd's now and them. Its just fun to see the differences and some of the software others have.
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-07-01 08:17
    For some reason my live cd in mint set the CD as read only. Think I might install to hard drive as dual boot. I really do like mint esp after I got the system setting right for my old eyes! :cool:
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2014-07-01 10:19
    For some reason my live cd in mint set the CD as read only.

    You're just kidding, right?
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-07-01 10:24
    Wish I was....
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-07-01 10:30
    Well, in cyberspace nobody can hear you joking.

    I think you will find all Live CD's have the CD from which they run mounted as read only. It's in the nature of the media.

    Dual boot is a pain.

    Install Linux on your machine and run Windows under VirtualBox if you ever need it again.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2014-07-01 10:32
    Once you burn an iso image to a non-rewritable disk you can't write to it anymore. It becomes "read only".
  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2014-07-01 13:14
    It was worth playing with for me, however I am going back to Virtual Box....
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-01 15:45
    Heater. wrote: »
    Well, in cyberspace nobody can hear you joking.

    I think you will find all Live CD's have the CD from which they run mounted as read only. It's in the nature of the media.

    Dual boot is a pain.

    Install Linux on your machine and run Windows under VirtualBox if you ever need it again.

    As Mike Myers would say, 'YEAH BBABY' ;)

    mY dELL LATITUDE e6410, neded a lot of help to rid viruses or mal and adware , and it was slow and annoying to use. I really meant to format and reinstall win 7 64 bit but one day a week or two ago i just said to myself....too much fooling about. i then installed Linux and installed it so it deleted windows. best move ever.
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