Why do you say so? Where do you get these ideas from?
Life leaves a lot to the imagination. I believe John Lenon said that. Living in Taiwan tends to take me on my flights of fancy about many things that I am not in daily contact with.
When you say it looks like he is not about making money, that implies that failure is an acceptable alternative to him... scary.
Holland is FLAT.. and not very hot.. hense the bikes. Riding a bicycle in San Francisco takes a bit of effort to avoid the hills and still arrive at your destination. Riding a bicycle in blazing sun and high humidity is not all that pleasant either. I suppose that parking might be an issue in Holland as well.
I just see more and more Taiwanese trying to drive more and more cars when the island has added high speed rail and mass transit and has tons of motor scooters. We could never compete in Formula One, the Taiwanese would be thrown out of the time trials for double parking.
Te im indebted to PJ for installing Mint for me. Peter you left the 2ig memory card in the slot! I think ill use again but feel free to collect mu pc now runs mint windoes and ubuntu .
Te im indebted to PJ for installing Mint for me. Peter you left the 2ig memory card in the slot! I think ill use again but feel free to collect mu pc now runs mint windoes and ubuntu .
You can keep the card but just having a quick glance over the threads I'm wondering what all this kerfuffle has been about. When I installed Mint it only took about 15 mins or so and it was doing everything it was supposed to, including the wifi. Personally I've never had trouble installing or running Linux especially in more recent years but I'm still scratching my head as to why you are having such trouble.
I just recently picked up one of those cheap Win8 tablet/netbook combos with a 64GB SSD in the tablet and a 500G HDD in the keyboard and proceeded to partition the SSD, install Linux Mint 17, added an on-screen keyboard, and it just works.
@Peter J
That's wonderful... a real touch screen tablet can boot a full Linux system from an SDcard.
And I suppose it opens up the tablet to all sorts of creative modifications.
BTW, there are TWO types of Linux on SDcards.
1. One is an adaptation of the LiveCD that allows you to get a demonstration of the Linux running and then install Linux if you like it. It is not really intended to do much real work in Linux, just give you a demonstration.
2. The other actually is the Linux booting from the SDcard and never installing Linux to your device. It may use storage space in the existing file system for data, but it always boots from the SDcard.
The configurations are a bit different. You can't just take a LiveCD image and put in on and SDcard and expect it give you full functionality. It takes some reconfiguration.
You can keep the card but just having a quick glance over the threads I'm wondering what all this kerfuffle has been about. When I installed Mint it only took about 15 mins or so and it was doing everything it was supposed to, including the wifi. Personally I've never had trouble installing or running Linux especially in more recent years but I'm still scratching my head as to why you are having such trouble.
I just recently picked up one of those cheap Win8 tablet/netbook combos with a 64GB SSD in the tablet and a 500G HDD in the keyboard and proceeded to partition the SSD, install Linux Mint 17, added an on-screen keyboard, and it just works.
PJ, I found it just as easy to convert my dell laptop to Mint. No troubles at all. The only thing I am still working on is the com ports. Other than that i dont think i have any problems. I think i know why the com ports are not working with the basic stamp andd prop board. What problems are you referring to ?
I just recently picked up one of those cheap Win8 tablet/netbook combos with a 64GB SSD in the tablet and a 500G HDD in the keyboard and proceeded to partition the SSD, install Linux Mint 17, added an on-screen keyboard, and it just works.
That sounds interesting. Which tablet would that be, if you don't mind?
PJ, I found it just as easy to convert my dell laptop to Mint. No troubles at all. The only thing I am still working on is the com ports. Other than that i dont think i have any problems. I think i know why the com ports are not working with the basic stamp andd prop board. What problems are you referring to ?
If you can see a useful USB com port in /dev, you just may have to assign your regular login to the User group for it.
Do you see 'ttyUSB0 in the /dev directory when a Parallax board is powered up and plugged in?
If you don't have your login identity assigned to the group, if should still work if you login as the SuperUser. But doing Propeller programing in SuperUser is generally considered a bad idea -- less security, more likely to cause trouble.
Guys, still lurking this thread and am thinking. This Live CD. What is it how does it work. Could I use it on a DVD to boot when I want Linux and regular boot from hd when I want windows? I use Dragon to help type but dont think there is a Linux version. Where can I get a live cd??
A Live CD is a Linux, or other operating system, that boots directly from the CD. It does not need to be installed on your hard drive or use any files on it.
Live CD's are great for trying out Linux distros or using as repair disks.
"Knoppix" was about the first Live CD years ago but today there are hundreds of them. See here:http://www.livecdlist.com/
Many of them are customized installations of common disros with packages for a particular activity installed, say, music or video or whatever.
I can't say much about them as I have not looked at them very hard for a long time. Knoppix was and probably is still great. But I'd suggest trying out, from that list:
Debian - because it is the holy distro.
Centos - The best from Red Hat.
Kubuntu - Because it's Ubuntu which is all the rage but with KDE instead of the hideous desktop that Ubuntu uses.
Gparted - Not as a usable OS but it's a great tool when you want to resize and move partitions around on your machine.
Guys, still lurking this thread and am thinking. This Live CD. What is it how does it work. Could I use it on a DVD to boot when I want Linux and regular boot from hd when I want windows? I use Dragon to help type but dont think there is a Linux version. Where can I get a live cd??
Thanks...
www.livecd.com rocks... it is really clear about which ones are for installation of the OS to hard disk.
Actually several distributions of LiveCD have gotten too big for CDs and are actually LiveDVDs.
Yes, you could use a CD or DVD to boot Linux and just remove the disk and boot whatever is on the hard disk.
Puppy Linux is particularly configured to do so. And inspite of the kiddie name, it is a perfectly valid set up for a small Linux. You still may want something more adult.
Try www.distrowatch.com for a complete listing of all the popular listings. What you really want is a smaller Linux if you are going to run from a CD or DVD only.
Knoppix might have been the first LiveCD, but it is rather large and may be a bit too much for a first Linux. I found it slow to load.
Gparted is indeed a very useful tool, but if you are working with a Windows machine it is best not to use it. Windows now checks the size and configuration of all the partitions on any machine it is loaded on and will refused to boot if changes have occurred in terms of the size and number of partitions unless done with the Windows partitioning software. On such a machine, a little tweek with Gparted could result in Windows refusing to boot until a repair disk is run.
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Guys, still lurking this thread and am thinking. This Live CD. What is it how does it work. Could I use it on a DVD to boot when I want Linux and regular boot from hd when I want windows? I use Dragon to help type but dont think there is a Linux version. Where can I get a live cd??
Thanks...[/QUOTE]
Does not windows come with a speech to text tool ?
Thanks for all the info! Was playing with my monitoring program with Xbee and you guys were very busy here! I really like mint so I will check out all the suggestions.
Windows 7 does have it but.... Dragon is for windows and does work, can even get my wifes name correct. Only took a little training . Still does some funky things from time to time..
I bought the tablet (P2212T) from ALDI, it's got an N2920 quad core 64-bit Celeron and 64GB SSD with 4GB RAM plus 500GB HDD in the keyboard. I like the full 1920x1080 screen and 2 USB ports in the tablet and 2 in the base. The problem with it is that it runs windows 8 but I flashed a copy of Linux Mint 17 onto a stick using unetbootin (works just like a live CD) then disabled the UEFI bios boot lock and started up mint. First thing I do prior to install is use gparted to manually partition the SSD drive (NOT an SD) to give me an extended partition as there is a sinister trend these days for windows to use all 4 primary partitions, so backup one and resize the largest to give me room. I then create logical partitions for home, swap, and system / after which it's a breeze to actually install Linux.
In fact I'm posting on the tablet section now although I resized the onscreen keyboard to full width, it lools like a real 102 key IBM style keyboard, very easy and flexible to use. I try to avoid running any realtime windows software in wine though and just stick to Linux equivalents or run them in Virtual Box if I really must.
BTW, ten years ago or so Knoppix was a sensation but most Linux distros these days are "Live" and you can flash them onto a USB stick or SD card using unetbootin. Get with it guys.
@Whiteoxe, that SD card with LM17 I left you is "live"
@Loopy, reading your posts I find that's a lot of bad or really outdated info you are putting out there.
@Whiteoxe, that SD card with LM17 I left you is "live"
I made a similar mistake ,making my dell laptop into a linux machine. It ran grat for a week, I downloaded programs i needed etc. Then one day i swiThatched atoff the laptop and removed the Mint DVD....next time i booted ,NO Mint !!!
So it was running live, I was tempted to leave it that way but I installed mint properly and rid the dell of windows.
Ive toyed around with the Win 7 speech to text app. I recite nursery rymes and see how well it does. Not very good. Id like to hear from anyone using Dragon please. My fingers have no sense of touch and typing is a little slow.
I made a similar mistake ,making my dell laptop into a linux machine. It ran grat for a week, I downloaded programs i needed etc. Then one day i swiThatched atoff the laptop and removed the Mint DVD....next time i booted ,NO Mint !!!
So it was running live, I was tempted to leave it that way but I installed mint properly and rid the dell of windows.
Whaaa! and you didn't realize? Using a live CD is painful as CD seek and read speeds are so incredibly slow, CDs and even DVDs are the floppy disk of the 21st century. Better to have the "live CD" on a USB flash drive if you are going to run live. However a proper install is so much better plus you can apply updates and extensions etc whereas a live session can't really do this. I primarily use live sessions just for a quick feel of the distro and then use it to install the distro. I strongly recommend to use gparted and definitely not the Windows partition tools but the thing to remember is don't try to do this if the NTFS partition has errors or is hibernated, in which case boot back into windows and let it sort itself out before booting back into Linux.
BTW, I think a lot of your troubles had to do with fumbling about with Wine and trying to run some windows programs on it, but I've had problems with certain programs that just don't play well with Wine, especially if it involves USB. Also the other thing was I think happened was when we first installed Mint that we allowed it to copy your buggy windows account settings as Firefox in Mint ended up having the same proxy errors.
The folks at the Wine forum thought my parallax usb/serial device would cause extra problems. Im going to have to install my serial port card. It does not need any drivers other than what win 7 has. Then it should work. fingers crossed.
The folks at the Wine forum thought my parallax usb/serial device would cause extra problems. Im going to have to install my serial port card. It does not need any drivers other than what win 7 has. Then it should work. fingers crossed.
I think you are missing the point with Wine, it is not an emulator, it simply provides the layers for Windows programs to operate on top of Linux. So there are no "Windows drivers" that you could use anyway as it will always use the drivers that are part of Linux. The problem comes about that even when you symlink the USB device to the COM port that the Windows program expects things to work with a certain timing, but Wine cannot appear to be realtime to the Windows programs as there are extra layers involved. I don't know the full picture and I haven't bothered to find out, but Linux, even with Wine, is not Windows, so don't expect it to run those Windows programs as if it were Windows.
Isn't just an AVR program that you're having problems with? Isn't there an alternative or better still, ditch the AVR.
I have not used Live CDs on a true CD in years . Unetebootn is a great tool ..... heck as I type this I have a Debian 6 old ish install cooking on a USB stick.
USB 3 flash drives are very snappy and are Really sweet to use for a user whom wants native boot non live CD linux but just has the last min jitters about splitting there HDD in 2..
PJ . I'm probably still missing the point but the reason tht the Wine folks said my USB/Serial parallax lead would'nt work is they said, if you you need a driver for that to work (and u do) then it won't work. Ill put in the serial card which needs no 3rd party drivers and maybe then I'll have success.
PJ . I'm probably still missing the point but the reason tht the Wine folks said my USB/Serial parallax lead would'nt work is they said, if you you need a driver for that to work (and u do) then it won't work. Ill put in the serial card which needs no 3rd party drivers and maybe then I'll have success.
if not I'll install Virtualbox and run win 7.
Of course there is a "driver" but it's not a windows driver. Wine will never pop-up like Windows and say "searching for driver". However, even the plain old serial cards have drivers so what is it exactly that you are trying to get working? (link to the program etc).
My aim is to use the basic Stamp editor and the SimpleIDE editor without having to boot into Windows. Just because i want to do it ! But really when i use either of those i generally stay at it for a couple of hours so its no big deal to boot widows. I did also often use the older widows movie maker becqause the newer ones are Smile. But ive gotten pretty good at OpenShot Liux, so there is no need to boot windows for video editing anymore.
I just purchased a book on Mint through KOBO. I5t was on special for a couple of dollars and it explains the directories and how how to navfigate around the OS ,so im pretty happy with the two dollar book !!!
My aim is to use the basic Stamp editor and the SimpleIDE editor without having to boot into Windows. Just because i want to do it ! But really when i use either of those i generally stay at it for a couple of hours so its no big deal to boot widows. I did also often use the older widows movie maker becqause the newer ones are Smile. But ive gotten pretty good at OpenShot Liux, so there is no need to boot windows for video editing anymore.
I just purchased a book on Mint through KOBO. I5t was on special for a couple of dollars and it explains the directories and how how to navfigate around the OS ,so im pretty happy with the two dollar book !!!
Out of curiosity I will look at whether these editors can run under Wine although I believe the editing part would be fine I can see there might be trouble with connectivity.
A whole book on Mint, wow!, you've read more than I have just with the first page
Dragon has close to 97% recognization right of the box. To start out you spend some time reading their scripts so it learns your dialect. Its not as easy as their adds show but is doable if you are like me and typing is hard. It took extra training to properly display my wifes name, Celeste but it took after I said her name and spelled it several times.
If it can understand my Ohio, Pittsburgh and Southern West Virginia accent it can understand anything. It can I think even read to you but I dont use that. Also dont think it has a :Linux version, could be wrong about that! The included mic/headset is ok. Sometimes you can get it on sale for $50 USD.
@Peter
There also is an ebook version on Mint 16 that I have on my Kindle. Its pretty informative but am still reading when I dont get distracted! Still want to try your Forth. Played with Forth back in my old TRS 80 days. Never goy to far with it other then adding a few words.
@Loopy, reading your posts I find that's a lot of bad or really outdated info you are putting out there.
Fair enough, I haven't been able to keep up with all the changes. Maybe I should just keep quiet. I was thinking that I may have Knoppix confused with another German distribution.. but I can't locate anything that seems familiar.
I just have to admit my memory and attention to details have age related problems. I am not trying to be a know-it-all.
My situation is simple isolation. I tried attending a Kaohsiung Linux User's Group many years ago, but found that that no one had showed up for a regular meeting at that coffee shop in many years. And since then the coffe shop has closed.
I have to rely solely on what I test or read on the internet. It would be wonderful if there were an active Linux User's Group locally.. but it is not meant to be.
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I too have noticed that Windows now grabs all the Primary partitions when installed. Resizing and adding additional partitions is necessary for a dual boot. But I do the resizing and the adding of partions inside Windows to avoid problems.
After that is done, the empty added partions can be defined as root or /home as required and reformated in Gparted.
I simply worry that new users might try to do it all in Gparted and have Windows refuse to boot. It gives a message that is rather cryptic and misleading. I haven't done any dual boots recently. The last was in Windows 7 and went smoothly by the above mentioned precautions.
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GParted now seems to be a whole LiveCD, not just a partition utility. I only have experience with the partition utility -- not the other one.
it'd be great if dragon worked that well, my typing is very slow, i hate it !!!! if i ever see it on special i will buy it. I'd love to speak at my programming editors !
Another cool thing about Linux is when I connect a printer using windows ,it usually dosent work properly unless i install the correct driver...but the same printer/s install automatically under Linux and work perfectly !!
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Life leaves a lot to the imagination. I believe John Lenon said that. Living in Taiwan tends to take me on my flights of fancy about many things that I am not in daily contact with.
When you say it looks like he is not about making money, that implies that failure is an acceptable alternative to him... scary.
Holland is FLAT.. and not very hot.. hense the bikes. Riding a bicycle in San Francisco takes a bit of effort to avoid the hills and still arrive at your destination. Riding a bicycle in blazing sun and high humidity is not all that pleasant either. I suppose that parking might be an issue in Holland as well.
I just see more and more Taiwanese trying to drive more and more cars when the island has added high speed rail and mass transit and has tons of motor scooters. We could never compete in Formula One, the Taiwanese would be thrown out of the time trials for double parking.
You can keep the card but just having a quick glance over the threads I'm wondering what all this kerfuffle has been about. When I installed Mint it only took about 15 mins or so and it was doing everything it was supposed to, including the wifi. Personally I've never had trouble installing or running Linux especially in more recent years but I'm still scratching my head as to why you are having such trouble.
I just recently picked up one of those cheap Win8 tablet/netbook combos with a 64GB SSD in the tablet and a 500G HDD in the keyboard and proceeded to partition the SSD, install Linux Mint 17, added an on-screen keyboard, and it just works.
That's wonderful... a real touch screen tablet can boot a full Linux system from an SDcard.
And I suppose it opens up the tablet to all sorts of creative modifications.
BTW, there are TWO types of Linux on SDcards.
1. One is an adaptation of the LiveCD that allows you to get a demonstration of the Linux running and then install Linux if you like it. It is not really intended to do much real work in Linux, just give you a demonstration.
2. The other actually is the Linux booting from the SDcard and never installing Linux to your device. It may use storage space in the existing file system for data, but it always boots from the SDcard.
The configurations are a bit different. You can't just take a LiveCD image and put in on and SDcard and expect it give you full functionality. It takes some reconfiguration.
Thanks,
-Tor
If you can see a useful USB com port in /dev, you just may have to assign your regular login to the User group for it.
Do you see 'ttyUSB0 in the /dev directory when a Parallax board is powered up and plugged in?
If you don't have your login identity assigned to the group, if should still work if you login as the SuperUser. But doing Propeller programing in SuperUser is generally considered a bad idea -- less security, more likely to cause trouble.
Thanks...
Yes
Yes
http://knoppix.org/ (there's a little 'EN' in the upper right corner for English)
A Live CD is a Linux, or other operating system, that boots directly from the CD. It does not need to be installed on your hard drive or use any files on it.
Live CD's are great for trying out Linux distros or using as repair disks.
"Knoppix" was about the first Live CD years ago but today there are hundreds of them. See here:http://www.livecdlist.com/
Many of them are customized installations of common disros with packages for a particular activity installed, say, music or video or whatever.
I can't say much about them as I have not looked at them very hard for a long time. Knoppix was and probably is still great. But I'd suggest trying out, from that list:
Debian - because it is the holy distro.
Centos - The best from Red Hat.
Kubuntu - Because it's Ubuntu which is all the rage but with KDE instead of the hideous desktop that Ubuntu uses.
Gparted - Not as a usable OS but it's a great tool when you want to resize and move partitions around on your machine.
www.livecd.com rocks... it is really clear about which ones are for installation of the OS to hard disk.
Actually several distributions of LiveCD have gotten too big for CDs and are actually LiveDVDs.
Yes, you could use a CD or DVD to boot Linux and just remove the disk and boot whatever is on the hard disk.
Puppy Linux is particularly configured to do so. And inspite of the kiddie name, it is a perfectly valid set up for a small Linux. You still may want something more adult.
Try www.distrowatch.com for a complete listing of all the popular listings. What you really want is a smaller Linux if you are going to run from a CD or DVD only.
Knoppix might have been the first LiveCD, but it is rather large and may be a bit too much for a first Linux. I found it slow to load.
Gparted is indeed a very useful tool, but if you are working with a Windows machine it is best not to use it. Windows now checks the size and configuration of all the partitions on any machine it is loaded on and will refused to boot if changes have occurred in terms of the size and number of partitions unless done with the Windows partitioning software. On such a machine, a little tweek with Gparted could result in Windows refusing to boot until a repair disk is run.
Guys, still lurking this thread and am thinking. This Live CD. What is it how does it work. Could I use it on a DVD to boot when I want Linux and regular boot from hd when I want windows? I use Dragon to help type but dont think there is a Linux version. Where can I get a live cd??
Thanks...[/QUOTE]
Does not windows come with a speech to text tool ?
Windows 7 does. I don't know how good it is, or anyone who has ever used it though.
Start > All Programs > Accessories > Ease of Access > Windows Speech Recognition
Windows 7 does have it but.... Dragon is for windows and does work, can even get my wifes name correct. Only took a little training . Still does some funky things from time to time..
In fact I'm posting on the tablet section now although I resized the onscreen keyboard to full width, it lools like a real 102 key IBM style keyboard, very easy and flexible to use. I try to avoid running any realtime windows software in wine though and just stick to Linux equivalents or run them in Virtual Box if I really must.
BTW, ten years ago or so Knoppix was a sensation but most Linux distros these days are "Live" and you can flash them onto a USB stick or SD card using unetbootin. Get with it guys.
@Whiteoxe, that SD card with LM17 I left you is "live"
@Loopy, reading your posts I find that's a lot of bad or really outdated info you are putting out there.
I made a similar mistake ,making my dell laptop into a linux machine. It ran grat for a week, I downloaded programs i needed etc. Then one day i swiThatched atoff the laptop and removed the Mint DVD....next time i booted ,NO Mint !!!
So it was running live, I was tempted to leave it that way but I installed mint properly and rid the dell of windows.
Whaaa! and you didn't realize? Using a live CD is painful as CD seek and read speeds are so incredibly slow, CDs and even DVDs are the floppy disk of the 21st century. Better to have the "live CD" on a USB flash drive if you are going to run live. However a proper install is so much better plus you can apply updates and extensions etc whereas a live session can't really do this. I primarily use live sessions just for a quick feel of the distro and then use it to install the distro. I strongly recommend to use gparted and definitely not the Windows partition tools but the thing to remember is don't try to do this if the NTFS partition has errors or is hibernated, in which case boot back into windows and let it sort itself out before booting back into Linux.
BTW, I think a lot of your troubles had to do with fumbling about with Wine and trying to run some windows programs on it, but I've had problems with certain programs that just don't play well with Wine, especially if it involves USB. Also the other thing was I think happened was when we first installed Mint that we allowed it to copy your buggy windows account settings as Firefox in Mint ended up having the same proxy errors.
I think you are missing the point with Wine, it is not an emulator, it simply provides the layers for Windows programs to operate on top of Linux. So there are no "Windows drivers" that you could use anyway as it will always use the drivers that are part of Linux. The problem comes about that even when you symlink the USB device to the COM port that the Windows program expects things to work with a certain timing, but Wine cannot appear to be realtime to the Windows programs as there are extra layers involved. I don't know the full picture and I haven't bothered to find out, but Linux, even with Wine, is not Windows, so don't expect it to run those Windows programs as if it were Windows.
Isn't just an AVR program that you're having problems with? Isn't there an alternative or better still, ditch the AVR.
USB 3 flash drives are very snappy and are Really sweet to use for a user whom wants native boot non live CD linux but just has the last min jitters about splitting there HDD in 2..
if not I'll install Virtualbox and run win 7.
Of course there is a "driver" but it's not a windows driver. Wine will never pop-up like Windows and say "searching for driver". However, even the plain old serial cards have drivers so what is it exactly that you are trying to get working? (link to the program etc).
I just purchased a book on Mint through KOBO. I5t was on special for a couple of dollars and it explains the directories and how how to navfigate around the OS ,so im pretty happy with the two dollar book !!!
Out of curiosity I will look at whether these editors can run under Wine although I believe the editing part would be fine I can see there might be trouble with connectivity.
A whole book on Mint, wow!, you've read more than I have just with the first page
Dragon has close to 97% recognization right of the box. To start out you spend some time reading their scripts so it learns your dialect. Its not as easy as their adds show but is doable if you are like me and typing is hard. It took extra training to properly display my wifes name, Celeste but it took after I said her name and spelled it several times.
If it can understand my Ohio, Pittsburgh and Southern West Virginia accent it can understand anything. It can I think even read to you but I dont use that. Also dont think it has a :Linux version, could be wrong about that! The included mic/headset is ok. Sometimes you can get it on sale for $50 USD.
@Peter
There also is an ebook version on Mint 16 that I have on my Kindle. Its pretty informative but am still reading when I dont get distracted! Still want to try your Forth. Played with Forth back in my old TRS 80 days. Never goy to far with it other then adding a few words.
Fair enough, I haven't been able to keep up with all the changes. Maybe I should just keep quiet. I was thinking that I may have Knoppix confused with another German distribution.. but I can't locate anything that seems familiar.
I just have to admit my memory and attention to details have age related problems. I am not trying to be a know-it-all.
My situation is simple isolation. I tried attending a Kaohsiung Linux User's Group many years ago, but found that that no one had showed up for a regular meeting at that coffee shop in many years. And since then the coffe shop has closed.
I have to rely solely on what I test or read on the internet. It would be wonderful if there were an active Linux User's Group locally.. but it is not meant to be.
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I too have noticed that Windows now grabs all the Primary partitions when installed. Resizing and adding additional partitions is necessary for a dual boot. But I do the resizing and the adding of partions inside Windows to avoid problems.
After that is done, the empty added partions can be defined as root or /home as required and reformated in Gparted.
I simply worry that new users might try to do it all in Gparted and have Windows refuse to boot. It gives a message that is rather cryptic and misleading. I haven't done any dual boots recently. The last was in Windows 7 and went smoothly by the above mentioned precautions.
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GParted now seems to be a whole LiveCD, not just a partition utility. I only have experience with the partition utility -- not the other one.