cluso: so you are saying that because of the limitations of the package they couldn't bring out the last 4 pins of port C?
I hope they are available for use internally because they would be useful for control lines for a 32bit internal bus(port D) without encoumbering any of the physical pins.
Having a 32bit bus would be especially handy when a cog wants a transfer from another that is controlling an extrnal SDRAM when lower latency is required than the hub can give.
I would think for sure there is no pin silicon - meaning all the pad circuitry. However, I don't know if the I/O has been done in silicon the same as for Port D. As you say, this could be extremely useful.
Aren't we spoiled? There's never enough pins, never enough RAM, never enough cogs!
I've been re-reading the preliminary Feature List for the Prop 2. That will be a bit of a new learning curve for us. A big step up from Prop 1, for sure. Boy, aren't we going to be spoiled with all its features? Can't wait to hear what all some will come up with for the 'new silicon'. Guess 'Santa' won't be bringing any Prop 2 presents this year though.
The more I read, I can imagine there is going to be quite a chore to get the Prop 2 user manual gererated and well explained. Has there ever been any comment on a Prop 2 QuickStart type of board by Parallax?
Aren't we spoiled? There's never enough pins, never enough RAM, never enough cogs!
I've been re-reading the preliminary Feature List for the Prop 2. That will be a bit of a new learning curve for us. A big step up from Prop 1, for sure. Boy, aren't we going to be spoiled with all its features? Can't wait to hear what all some will come up with for the 'new silicon'. Guess 'Santa' won't be bringing any Prop 2 presents this year though.
The more I read, I can imagine there is going to be quite a chore to get the Prop 2 user manual gererated and well explained. Has there ever been any comment on a Prop 2 QuickStart type of board by Parallax?
I'm hoping for something like the proto board. I hope that it's available soon. I've got a couple of projects that aren't going well because of the limited number of IO pins and hub memory on the prop I.
There will be a number of different prototype boards available both from Parallax and the community. This has been answered many times before. You can bet they will be available at the launch of the chip - or within a few days - because we have sufficient info to build these boards in advance.
BTW Don't anyone think for one minute that the Prop II will replace the existing Prop 1. It will only fuel more interest in Prop 1 as well. We haven't exhausted use of the features of Prop 1 yet, and so the Prop 1 will still have it's own marketplace. Prop II just opens up many new uses that we just cannot do with Prop 1, or are a chore with Prop 1.
I noticed many people mentioning putting money forward to help with tooling. Is there an official place to sign up? You can count me in for at least $100 as long as I can get a Prop II and a small development board for example, even if I have to wait a year or more to physically get what I paid for.
Have you guys considered selling stock if you aren't already (doesn't seem you do)? I'd love to invest even if it was a measly $1000 bucks I could offer.
I doubt I'm the only one here that's excited about the Prop II and is willing to back it, 40nm or no 40nm.
roughwood: Much of the mention of putting in money was in jest. The fantasy of having a finer geometry like 40nm or whatever, would only delay the Prop II, and we don't really want that - even if the $3M or so was donated without strings.
In reality, it would be just another thing requiring Parallax administration and they are busy enough. Our little amounts would do nothing really to help. And they certainly would not want to lose control of their destiny (and I would not want that either).
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I hope they are available for use internally because they would be useful for control lines for a 32bit internal bus(port D) without encoumbering any of the physical pins.
Having a 32bit bus would be especially handy when a cog wants a transfer from another that is controlling an extrnal SDRAM when lower latency is required than the hub can give.
I've been re-reading the preliminary Feature List for the Prop 2. That will be a bit of a new learning curve for us. A big step up from Prop 1, for sure. Boy, aren't we going to be spoiled with all its features? Can't wait to hear what all some will come up with for the 'new silicon'. Guess 'Santa' won't be bringing any Prop 2 presents this year though.
The more I read, I can imagine there is going to be quite a chore to get the Prop 2 user manual gererated and well explained. Has there ever been any comment on a Prop 2 QuickStart type of board by Parallax?
I'm hoping for something like the proto board. I hope that it's available soon. I've got a couple of projects that aren't going well because of the limited number of IO pins and hub memory on the prop I.
BTW Don't anyone think for one minute that the Prop II will replace the existing Prop 1. It will only fuel more interest in Prop 1 as well. We haven't exhausted use of the features of Prop 1 yet, and so the Prop 1 will still have it's own marketplace. Prop II just opens up many new uses that we just cannot do with Prop 1, or are a chore with Prop 1.
Have you guys considered selling stock if you aren't already (doesn't seem you do)? I'd love to invest even if it was a measly $1000 bucks I could offer.
I doubt I'm the only one here that's excited about the Prop II and is willing to back it, 40nm or no 40nm.
In reality, it would be just another thing requiring Parallax administration and they are busy enough. Our little amounts would do nothing really to help. And they certainly would not want to lose control of their destiny (and I would not want that either).