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Parallax is LIVESTREAMING the unboxing of the Propeller 2! https://youtu.be/01TyfRtSjkI

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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    That was a mammoth session.

    What with all the stream outages I missed the moment when the P2 came to life. Grrr...

    I popped the bubbly anyway :)

    Congrats and well done everybody.

    Have to sleep now...




  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2018-09-28 03:35
    Yes! Congratulations! Great outcome.

    I missed a lot, but saw that. What a relief. It lives!
  • AleAle Posts: 2,363
    Wow ! let it be Chipmas !. Great work !
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    Yes, fantastic news to see P2 spring to life, and see the sine wave output too!
  • cgraceycgracey Posts: 14,152
    Thanks, Everyone, for participating today. I probably only saw a small fraction of what you were posting, text wise. It was something that at the end of the day it started working. I really need to review what's up with those resistor settings.

    Anyway, I've got one unit that I'm taking back home to evaluate. There's really not that much to test, just the analog hookup and the PLL.

    Hopefully, in a week, we will know if this is a go or not. I hope it turns out to be perfect, but all those delays scared me today.
  • cgraceycgracey Posts: 14,152
    Yes, we will definitely send Peter a chip or two. They will go out tomorrow.
  • Just finished watching the recording. Incredible. Congratulations!
  • cgracey wrote: »
    Yes, we will definitely send Peter a chip or two. They will go out tomorrow.

    I think he should do a live feed too for the first try, keep it rolling...

    Mike
  • Big thanks to everyone who has taken an active interest in P2, both past and present since it has been such a long haul. Together with the live streaming it makes it so much more exciting and fun!
    I had to turn in 6:00AM my time because I had to be up again at 8 so I was a little bushed for much of the unboxing and testing. Tonight though I will go to bed earlier and get up at 3:00AM or earlier so I can follow along with my FPGA running.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2018-09-28 05:23
    BTW, it's a holiday here on Monday, maybe because everyone is so excited about P2! :) But if I get a couple of chips I will make up a board and send it off to Melbourne where most of the "Oz Prop" people are. I know you guys will give it a good hammering.
  • All the hammers ready, Peter. Fire away
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,915
    At 13 minutes of part 6, with a square wave toggling output, I see 75 mA on the 1.8 V power supply. 135 mW is nice low power consumption.
  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    evanh wrote: »
    At 13 minutes of part 6, with a square wave toggling output, I see 75 mA on the 1.8 V power supply. 135 mW is nice low power consumption.

    That's 25MHz and one core only ? - hopefully, it was less than 75mA ...
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,915
    I suspect that lowering the clock more won't really help either. That's the nature of finer grain built for speed - its static leakage is higher.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,915
    Smart-watches don't run for years on a single charge like real watches do. People are impressed if they can make it one day between charges!
  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    evanh wrote: »
    I suspect that lowering the clock more won't really help either. That's the nature of finer grain built for speed - its static leakage is higher.

    Certainly, some real Icc/Vcc and Icc/MHz graphs for P2, will be very interesting to see, and even some overclock Max-MHz/Vcc envelope tests, to see how much margin is in the spec.
  • evanh wrote: »
    I suspect that lowering the clock more won't really help either. That's the nature of finer grain built for speed - its static leakage is higher.

    We use those same extech 382260 (Manson SSP7080 here) 80w lab supplies, they're really nice because they display in mA rather than 0.01's of an Amp, and that captures a lot of detail, for example when the P8x32A is booting and its around 2mA, and post boot it'll climb appropriately, but the extra digit is really helpful for diagnostics.

    Manytimes the display today was close to zero, and given how i trust them down to low mA that bodes well for static leakage

    Saw the 75mA as well commonly - lets wait and see what was driving that. Some smart pin modes will burn energy
  • BTW, it's a holiday here on Monday, maybe because everyone is so excited about P2! :) But if I get a couple of chips I will make up a board and send it off to Melbourne where most of the "Oz Prop" people are. I know you guys will give it a good hammering.
    That would be great Peter! :)
    I might treat myself to a new hammer just for the occasion.

    And thank you for your P2D2 effort. Bravo!

  • Seconded Peter. Thank you. It was fun to see your one liner work.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    Well, the youtube subscription function didn't work - I didn't get any notification and I'll just have to watch it 14 hours later.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2018-09-28 08:36
    [Skipped ahead a bit]

    0 PIN 1 MHz.. yeah, I can definitely see the use of having Tachyon available! Good job, Peter!
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    So I popped the bubbly, took a sip, and passed out.

    Now I'm wondering what happened.

    Did I really see an actual P2 chip working?

    Did David and the ED 209 machine beat Chip's hand soldering?

    Did Ken really play Aka Bilk on the clarinet?

    Was it all just some weird dream?
  • Yes Heater, it really all happened!
  • Heater. wrote: »
    So I popped the bubbly, took a sip, and passed out.

    Now I'm wondering what happened.

    Did I really see an actual P2 chip working?

    Did David and the ED 209 machine beat Chip's hand soldering?

    Did Ken really play Aka Bilk on the clarinet?

    Was it all just some weird dream?
    Darn! I missed the clarinet part!

  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    'er in doors is wondering what madness caused me to be to be popping bubbly at six in the morning for no apparent reason.

    It's kind of hard to explain...

  • Thanks to the team at Parallax for making the video feed happen, it was great to see this new milestone reached!

    Congratulations to Chip and the "team from OZ"!

    C.W.
  • ColeyColey Posts: 1,110
    Wow, I've not been on the forum for a while and return only to see i missed a great moment.....

    Congratulations to Ken, Chip and the Parallax team.
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,644
    Livestream was a huge risk, so glad it worked out in the end.

    Ken was smart to have some entertainment lined up while we panicked...
  • AntoineDoinelAntoineDoinel Posts: 312
    edited 2018-09-28 12:03
    Thanks Chip, Ken and everyone at Parallax for the streaming event!

    And thanks to Peter, Cluso and all the other external contributors and testers!

    David Betz wrote: »
    Heater. wrote: »
    So I popped the bubbly, took a sip, and passed out.

    Now I'm wondering what happened.

    Did I really see an actual P2 chip working?

    Did David and the ED 209 machine beat Chip's hand soldering?

    Did Ken really play Aka Bilk on the clarinet?

    Was it all just some weird dream?
    Darn! I missed the clarinet part!

    which segment the clarinet part is in?
  • Somewhat related, I'm sure Ken would love to try the Prop1 drink-tube-recorder-flute:

    IMG-faa9e8456f74b4ffd048c8dd787b3a3e-V.jpg

    ...if only I could get my lazy Smile to redo it properly and release it
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