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  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2013-07-18 09:11
    erco wrote: »
    Bucket list item: I can't die happy until I get a Toddler AND a Stamp Bug.

    Maybe a gold AND a blue Toddler AND a Stamp Bug 1 AND a Stamp Bug 2.

    I don't need anything else.

    I need this chair. And this remote.


    But I'd trade it all for a plaid thermos.

    I don't know ANYONE that has a Gold AND a Blue Toddler:
    Toddler.jpg


    or a Toddler that has a Quadrover Brain:
    Toddler QuadRover Brain.jpg


    or a Toddler with a serious foot infection:
    Toddler Feet.jpg

    Now I just need a Black and Clear Penquin to round out my collection.:)
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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-18 09:33
    In the original packaging!!!!???

    That makes you my new best friend!

    Where do you live, exactly, old chum???

    What time do you leave for work, exactly???

    When is your house unattended, exactly???
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-07-18 09:47
    erco wrote: »
    In the original packaging!!!!???

    That makes you my new best friend!

    Where do you live, exactly, old chum???

    What time do you leave for work, exactly???

    When is your house unattended, exactly???

    In the words of the BIG GUY: "Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife, oxen or robots." (at least that's what popped into my head.........)
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-18 09:50
    The BIG GUY?

    The Hulk said that in "Avengers"? :)
  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2013-07-18 09:59
    Somewhere I have a giant poster from parallax that shows the BS2 commands.
    I've never seen it anywhere yet. I guess I'll have to dig it up and take a picture of it.

    Bean
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-18 10:07
    That's right. PBasic1's original "Ten Commands" were carved onto two stone tablets in 1995, subsequently made into a poster. Second in popularity only to Farah Fawcett's poster in the 1980's.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2013-07-18 11:45
    erco wrote: »
    In the original packaging!!!!???

    That makes you my new best friend!

    Where do you live, exactly, old chum???

    What time do you leave for work, exactly???

    When is your house unattended, exactly???

    LOL

    Yes, original packaging.

    Bough the last one on earth through HVW Tech, now owned by Solarbotics.
    Where do you live, exactly, old chum???

    NAS knows, ask them.
    What time do you leave for work, exactly???
    
    When is your house unattended, exactly???
    

    Never leave the house. The GPS ankle bracelet does not allow me to.
    I have been in lockdown for owning too many Toddlers and Penguins, but I think I will have a real problem if they find out I'm getting a Quadrover.

    Anyone remember how to bake a file into a cake?
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2013-07-18 11:55
    Carol,

    very sorry to hijack the thread. I'll stop now....
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2013-07-18 14:52
    If you haven't seen it, Carol has a very nice article on walking robots in the current edition of Robot Magazine - September/Octoboer 2013.

    Way to go Carol!

    Turns out - this is her second article in Robot!

    Doing an article on walking robots - no wonder she dug up her StampBug.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2013-07-18 20:20
    Whit wrote: »
    If you haven't seen it, Carol has a very nice article on walking robots in the current edition of Robot Magazine - September/Octoboer 2013.

    Hey, what do you know. I had my issue sitting next to me and yup on page 36 Carol has an article on walking robots.

    It looks like they're made with Minds-i beams. She says ". . . my intention is to show how easy it is to implement your own ideas with Minds-i parts."

    I tried to do the same thing with Popsicle sticks with less success.
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2013-07-18 20:34
    Duane Degn wrote: »
    I tried to do the same thing with Popsicle sticks with less success.

    A Stick-Bug...Pretty cool. Amazing job Duane!
  • Carol HazlettCarol Hazlett Posts: 312
    edited 2013-07-21 15:36
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    Thanks for the offer Ken! I may take you up on one thing. I have a friend, Tom Carroll who writes a column for Servo magazine called "Then and Now" and we are thinking of doing an article on the Stampbugs and will need history from you.
    By the way how many of my grandchildren do I have to sell to get a Toddler. It is the only Parallax product that I do not have. The comment someone else made about the BS2 poster sounds interesting. Since us at SRS put up a Parallax banner every year at our Robothon competition (Sept. 21, 2013) that would make an interesting display also. I've included some pictures of the old bug and the newer version I made. Notice the Parallax Ping on front! I will be working on talking to the old bug today so either I will posting video of it or asking more questions later today! Some one asked about the old code. I am posting a copy of it here also.
    'BUG.BAS
    'Stamp Bug Program
    'Milford Instruments; England
    '+44-1977-683665; Fax +44-1977-681465
    'E-Mail- Info@Milinst.demon.co.uk
    'This version for use with board bug41.pcb and4.2: March 1998
    
    
    ' Variables allocation:
    Symbol touched=bit0	'flag to indicate feeler touched
    Symbol counter=b2	'loop counter in Walk routine	
    Symbol counter2=b3	'loop counter for other routines	
    Symbol Center_pos=b4	'center leg position
    Symbol Right_pos=b8	'right leg position
    Symbol Left_pos=b9	'left leg position
    
    if pin0=1 then jump	'select carpet or desk-top mode
    b10=165:b11=135	'carpet mode (higher lift)- jumper in
    goto start
    jump: 
    b10=157:b11=143	'desk-top mode (smaller lift)- jumper out
    start:
    
    
    
    ' Constants
    Symbol Rleg_max=185	'Right leg ms for max forward excursion
    Symbol Rleg_min=130	'Right Leg ms for max rearward excursion
    Symbol Lleg_max=170	'Left leg ms for max rearward excursion
    Symbol Lleg_min=115	'Left leg ms for max forward excursion
    Symbol cleg_max=b10	'centre leg max excursion
    Symbol cleg_min =b11	'centre leg min excursion
    Symbol pulses=20	'# of pulses per step
    Symbol delay=10	'# ms pause between pulses to any servo
    Symbol center=150
    
    'Pin Allocations
    Symbol Left_servo=5	'Left Servo on pin 5
    Symbol Center_servo=6	'Center Servo on pin 6
    Symbol Right_servo=7	'Right servo on pin 7
    Symbol Left_eye=3	'Left eye on pin 3
    Symbol Right_eye=1	'Right eye on pin 1
    Symbol Right_feeler=pin2'Right feeler on pin 2
    Symbol Left_feeler=pin4	'Left Feeler on pin 4
    
    
    'Initialisation 
    	dirs=%11101010
    	pins=%00001000	'left eye on , right eye off
    'Check to see if the left feeler pressed- if so got to the servo
    'set-up sub-routine... only used during assembly
    	if left_feeler=0 then calibrate
     	
    Main:
    	toggle left_eye		'toggle the eyes	
    	toggle right_eye
    	center_pos=cleg_min	'right side up
    	left_pos=Lleg_max	'go forward
    	right_pos=Rleg_max	
    	gosub walk
    	toggle left_eye		'toggle the eyes
    	toggle right_eye
    	center_pos=cleg_max	'right side down
    	left_pos=Lleg_min
    	right_pos=Rleg_min	'go forward
    	gosub walk
    	goto main
    
    Feelers:	'Routine to check if one of the feelers has been touched
    	if touched=1 then skip
    	if left_feeler=0 then left
    	if right_feeler=0 then right
    	skip:
    	return
    
    right:					' Routine if right feeler touched
    
    	gosub back			' back-up a bit then go right
    	high right_eye 
    	low  left_eye 	
    	for counter2=1 to 4
    		center_pos=cleg_max	'right side up
    		left_pos=Lleg_max	
    		right_pos=Rleg_min
    		gosub walk
    		center_pos=cleg_min	'right side down
    		left_pos=Lleg_min
    		right_pos=Rleg_max
    		gosub walk
    	next
    	
    	goto main
    
    left:					'Routine if left antenna touched
    	gosub back			'back-up a bit then go left
    	low right_eye 
    	high left_eye	
    		for counter2=1 to 4
    		center_pos=cleg_min	'right side down
    		left_pos=Lleg_max
    		right_pos=Rleg_min
    		gosub walk
    		center_pos=cleg_max	'right side up
    		left_pos=Lleg_min
    		right_pos=Rleg_max	
    		gosub walk
    	next
    	goto main
    
    walk:					'Walk one step Sub-Routine
    	for counter=1 to pulses		'# of pulses
    		pulsout center_servo,center_pos	
    		gosub feelers		'check the feelers
    		pause delay		' pause between pulses
    	next
    	
    	for counter=1 to pulses
    		pulsout right_servo,right_pos	
    		pulsout left_servo,left_pos		
    		pulsout center_servo,center_pos
    		gosub feelers		'check the feelers		
    		pause delay
    	next
    return
    
    back:					'Back-up Sub-Routine
    		touched =1		'set the flag
    		high right_eye
    		high left_eye 
    		for counter2=1 to 4	
    		center_pos=cleg_min
    		left_pos=Lleg_min
    		right_pos=Rleg_min
    
    	gosub walk
    		center_pos=cleg_max
    		left_pos=Lleg_max
    		right_pos=Rleg_max
    		gosub walk
    		toggle right_eye
    		toggle left_eye
    	next
    		toggle right_eye
    		touched=0		'clear the flag
    	return
    	
    calibrate:				'To assist in leg alignment
    		pulsout right_servo,center	
    		pulsout left_servo,center
    		pause delay
    		goto calibrate
    
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  • Carol HazlettCarol Hazlett Posts: 312
    edited 2013-07-21 15:46
    erco. put that project in your front pocket. I want to see it! I think it is kind of funny how much interest this little robot generates as all it can do is walk around avoiding bumping into stuff. When I show people my original MIT rug warrior which is packed with sensors and lots of behaviors it gets some semi interested ho-hums. I have a lot of legacy robots. I don't throw any of them away and I have been in this hobby since the middle 80's.
  • Carol HazlettCarol Hazlett Posts: 312
    edited 2013-07-21 15:52
    Duane, I just looked at your video of the popsicle robot. I love it! That is innovation at it's best.
  • Carol HazlettCarol Hazlett Posts: 312
    edited 2013-07-21 17:50
    And it's walking! After a bunch of fiddling around it worked with the BS1 programming adapter and the current version of the Basic Stamp IDE, It identified itself as BS1 ver 1.4. Here is a link to a video of it walking and responding to whisker input. The only thing on it that is not original is the battery holder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKB18L2GWwA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUfveeuCAWNnt_YoNEp4e3aw
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-21 18:23
    Beautimous, Carol! Great to see that vintage bot making the rounds. Are the legs made of the same green PCB material? Genious!

    But now that it is functional and self-aware, it is VERY dangerous for you to keep it in your house. You must get it far away from you. My previous offer still stands!

    BTW, congrats on very nice article in ROBOT magazine. Is that your first? May I suggest another article on all of your vintage/legacy bots?
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2013-07-21 19:21
    erco wrote: »
    . Is that your first?

    @erco - best I can tell, it is number 2.

    @Carol. - fantastic video. I really want to build one of these now.
  • Carol HazlettCarol Hazlett Posts: 312
    edited 2013-07-21 20:52
    It is my second article for Robot. I used to write for needlecraft and doll craft magazines. I pretty much concentrate on robotics now. That has always been my main hobby. I am thinking of making a very tiny version of it with miniature servos and 3D printing the body parts. If I ever finish building my Mendelmax! I like the green PCB material on this robot, kind of makes it look like a newt.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-21 21:09
    Needlecraft, doll craft, robotics, and 3D printing? Carol, you are the COOLEST!

    You and several of my favorite forumistas hail from Washington state. PhiPi, W9GFO, NWCCTV, and others. High coolness factor up there. Who else is in Washington? Somebody's in Auburn, IIRC...
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,395
    edited 2013-07-21 22:08
    I have a friend, Tom Carroll who writes a column for Servo magazine called "Then and Now" and we are thinking of doing an article on the Stampbugs and will need history from you.
    By the way how many of my grandchildren do I have to sell to get a Toddler. It is the only Parallax product that I do not have. The comment someone else made about the BS2 poster sounds interesting. Since us at SRS put up a Parallax banner every year at our Robothon competition (Sept. 21, 2013) that would make an interesting display also. I've included some pictures of the old bug and the newer version I made. Notice the Parallax Ping on front! I will be working on talking to the old bug today so either I will posting video of it or asking more questions later today! Some one asked about the old code. I am posting a copy of it here also.
    ]

    Tom is my friend too, so this could be a great chance to work together. I can share the whole Toddler history with you - I spent about six years building little bipeds before I concluded the whole effort with the Penguin.

    There's a story somewhere in Servo way back when, including a bit of the work:

    Screen Shot 2013-07-21 at 10.10.03 PM.png


    Regarding the grandchildren and Toddlers, as long as Chris Savage is pulling my leg about (Toddlers = Toddlers - 1) and I still have a few at Parallax, I can send one to you. No grandchildren required, too.

    I'll check Monday morning. And I'd be pleased to help you and Tom, too.
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,395
    edited 2013-07-22 11:05
    Carol,

    I think you're in luck. Here's a picture of Planet Earth's last remaining Toddlers - all four of them! Please send me your shipping address.

    I opened up a box and the contents is exactly what I thought it was: the American-made Toddler, with perfectly CNC-punched and milled parts throughout!

    If we could find another set of Toddler Twinkle Toes that'd really be great. Erco found a set on eBay a while back, but I don't see any of those even in the deepest corners of Parallax's archives.

    Ken Gracey

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  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2013-07-22 11:30
    @Ken - what do you think of the idea of a StampBug kit using the BASIC Stamp 1? Could be a neat little bot and Matt could surely cut some nifty legs!

    Twinkle Toes are avaliable at Hobby Engineering. See erco above!
    or http://www.hobbyengineering.com/H1695.html
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2013-07-22 11:37
    Whit wrote: »
    @Ken - what do you think of the dea of a StampBug kit using the BASIC Stamp 1? Could be a neat little bot and Matt could surely cut some nifty legs!

    Great idea Whit!
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2013-07-22 11:41
    Ken Gracey wrote: »
    Carol,

    I think you're in luck. Here's a picture of Planet Earth's last remaining Toddlers - all four of them! Please send me your shipping address.

    I opened up a box and the contents is exactly what I thought it was: the American-made Toddler, with perfectly CNC-punched and milled parts throughout!

    If we could find another set of Toddler Twinkle Toes that'd really be great. Erco found a set on eBay a while back, but I don't see any of those even in the deepest corners of Parallax's archives.

    Ken Gracey

    CarolsToddler.jpg

    Ya know Ken,

    Posting that picture is sure to fill up your mail box with all sorts of propositions. :)

    Let's get one to Carol first before the drones descend and scoop up the last remaining Toddles and lock them up in some fortruss.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-22 13:31
    Want.............!

    Ken, how about a toddler flamethrower? :) (Actually, now I must build one).

    I trust you still have the Flame Boe-er in a safe & secure location?
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2013-07-22 13:49
    @erco - I know it is not the same, but did you miss this thread....http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/149226-Toddler-like-Robot
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-22 14:08
    Yep, I saw that, thanks. That one has been brought up here previously. I'm all for tilt/stride walkers!
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,395
    edited 2013-07-22 14:23
    erco wrote: »
    Want.............!

    Ken, how about a toddler flamethrower? :) (Actually, now I must build one).

    I trust you still have the Flame Boe-er in a safe & secure location?

    Hey erco! Yes, except the fuel canister is running on empty so I'm ready for a rebuild. Do you think the supplier offers a factory refurbishment program?
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,257
    edited 2013-07-22 14:31
    Lifetime warranty, Boss! :)
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,395
    edited 2013-07-22 15:10
    erco wrote: »
    Lifetime warranty, Boss! :)

    Now you're speaking my language. Would've been difficult to send this back to Shenzhen, China and get it repaired.

    Udaman, erco!
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