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How to Start hardware of 2Quick start board ...??

RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
edited 2011-07-30 05:26 in Propeller 1
Hello,

I have got Quick start micro controller board, but i have no idea how to use it as i think it require a software for using........!!
Please help..........

Thanks.
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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2011-07-06 07:56
    First of all, further questions should be asked in the Propeller forum or the Parallax Semiconductor forum.

    Start here. This webpage has basic "How do I start?" information and links to the resources you'll need. There are several tabs on the webpage. Explore them all.
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 09:56
    Hello sir,

    I have readied that link and downloaded Setup-Propeller-Tool-v1.2.7-(R2) but how to use it?? it is asking for Com1 and 2, I have connected the board with USB to PC the light are glowing
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-06 10:40
    Ritesh, I'm posting the Private Message I sent you here so others will know what I've already told you and wont need to repeat what I've written. I hope you don't mind.
    Ritesh,

    I'm glad the board arrived.

    There is a lot of information on the QuickStart webpage.

    http://www.parallax.com/Store/Microc...8/Default.aspx

    You will see on the QuickStart webpage a list of "Examples at Parallax Semiconductor:".

    The link "QuickStart 1: Comparison of Programming Tools". Which leads to this webpage.

    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/quickstart1

    If you use a Windows operating system you can use The Propeller Tool to program the board. The Propeller Tool can be downloaded on this page.

    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/software

    Click on "Setup-Propeller-Tool-v1.3".

    If you want to use a computer without the Windows operating system you can use "Brad's Spin Tool" (BST). The webpage "QuickStart 1: Comparison of Programming Tools" also explains some details about BST. BST also works with Windows OS.

    You should look at the schematic on this page.

    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com...cts/quickstart

    You can power the board with USB or using the Vin and GND pins on the board. See the schematic to find Vin and GND.

    There are also some good magazine articles about programming the Propeller here:

    http://www.parallax.com/Resources/Nu...1/Default.aspx

    I modified the demo software a little. I have posted the code in this thread.

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Start-Projects.

    I loaded this code into the board before I sent it:

    dwd_TouchDemoByteArray110611i - Archive [Date 2011.06.11 Time 13.21].zip

    You'll probably want to read the first two threads (marked "Sticky:") on the Propeller Forum.

    I hope you enjoy programming the Propeller. I think it is a lot of fun.

    Duane

    I also wrote this:
    After you install The Propeller Tool, look in the "Help" menu. The ebook Propeller Education Kit Labs teaches how to use the Propeller.

    You can use the QuickStart (QS) board with a bread board and stick wires into the female head of the board to connect to the Propeller's pins.

    I sent a label with the QS. Look at the schematic and use the label to make finding the pins easier. There is a picture of the label here:

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...=1#post1010172

    I only took a picture of one side of the header. 1 is on the other side of 0. VIN is on the other side of GND. You'll need to cut the label to use it (if you want to use it).

    You are very welcome for the gift.

    Duane

    @Mike, Can/will you move this thread to the Propeller forum or should Ritesh start a new thread there himself?

    Duane
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 11:09
    I have installed that 1.6MB s/w InstallParallaxUSBDriversv2.08.02(2) but all blue LED are glowing and when i open the software Run > identify hardware it shows com 1,2,5,10 unable to connect??
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2011-07-06 11:24
    Download the most recent USB drivers for your version of Windows from FTDI. Reinstall the Propeller Tool, then reinstall the USB drivers from the FTDI file and make sure the QuickStart board is NOT plugged in when you install the drivers.

    If this doesn't work for you, you will have to carefully list the steps you've gone through including what messages you got from Windows (exactly as shown) and what (if any) responses you made. Most people seem to be able to get this all working without problems, so it's very important for you to provide enough information so we can try to figure out what's different about your case.
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 11:25
    I hope you don't mind.

    No way...........!!
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 11:35
    Download the most recent USB drivers for your version of Windows from FTDI. Reinstall the Propeller Tool, then reinstall the USB drivers from the FTDI file and make sure the QuickStart board is NOT plugged in when you install the drivers.

    Hello sir,

    I have windows XP 32 bit, what the need of this??
    Is this s/w Virtual com port driver will convert COM to USB ??
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-06 11:39
    but all blue LED are glowing and when i open the software Run > identify hardware it shows com 1,2,5,10 unable to connect??

    The eight blue LEDs can be controlled by the program you load on the QS board. Don't worry about them.

    There's a green power LED. There are also red and blue LEDs next to the USB connector. These two will flash when the board communicates with the PC.

    Since you are using Windows XP you should be able to download the driver here.

    http://www.parallax.com/usbdrivers

    Or use the link Mike provided. I suggest to always listen to Mike. He knows a lot more than I do about the Propeller.

    @Mike, Thanks for moving the thread.

    Duane
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 11:42
    Now i have downloaded this software D2xx Driver but there is no install setup??
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-06 11:45
    I think the driver here as a setup install.

    http://www.parallax.com/usbdrivers
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 11:45
    Since you are using Windows XP you should be able to download the driver here.

    http://www.parallax.com/usbdrivers

    I have downloaded that and installed............but seem to it is not working there is no set up of it in program window and desktop
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-06 11:55
    Try plugging in the QS board again. The blue lights should light when a button is touched (I programmed the board before I sent it). Don't worry if the lights stay on or don't go on when a button is touched. The touch pads are sensitive to moisture and other environmental influences. It might not work correctly in your location. You can adjust the code later to make it work.

    The link was to just the driver. It doesn't add a program.

    You will need to reinstall The Propeller Tool (unplug QuickStart first) after the driver has been installed (which I think you just did).

    You ought to download version 1.3 of The Propeller Tool. It works a little better than 1.2.7.
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 12:00
    Try plugging in the QS board again. The blue lights should light when a button is touched (I programmed the board before I sent it). Don't worry if the lights stay on or don't go on when a button is touched. The touch pads are sensitive to moisture and other environmental influences. It might not work correctly in your location. You can adjust the code later to make it work.

    The link was to just the driver. It doesn't add a program.

    The blue LED is working fine sensitive to touch, but there is problem in software i think it is not detecting the usb of QS, i have intel 64 bit I3 PC, but i have installed 32 bit XP.........
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 12:01
    You ought to download version 1.3 of The Propeller Tool. It works a little better than 1.2.7.
    from where??
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 12:15
    Here are the screen shot of QS.............i hope this may help to determine the problem........!!
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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2011-07-06 12:24
    Its looks like the board isn't being detected by the system.

    Got two very simple things to try before we go deeper...

    1) Replace your USB cord to the quickstart board with another. (I've had issues with various cheap cables)
    2) Plug the USB line into an alternate USB port

    Let's start with this simple stuff, and then go from there..

    OBC
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2011-07-06 12:25
    Unplug the board, reboot the PC, and plug it in again. What happens?
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-06 12:26
    from where??

    Third link in post #4.

    I think you should uninstall 1.2.7 first.

    Then try installing driver again.

    Then install 1.3.

    I think I had to install the FTDI driver more than once on one of my computers.

    Edit: Try what Jeff and Leon suggest first.
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 19:44
    Now connecting QS board to back of PC USB port it is detecting the hardware at com 3, and also loading RAM and EEPROM, but how to check whether it is working or not
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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2011-07-06 19:54
    Now that you can load something to RAM and EEPROM, you can start working through the QuickStart board's demo programs, the application notes, the Propeller Education Kit labs, etc. There's all sorts of information available in the "sticky threads" at the start of the thread list for this forum.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2011-07-06 19:58
    A good application to try is this new demo for the touch buttons:

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?132795-DEMO-QuickStart-Push-ON-Push-OFF

    Download it from the Obex link supplied.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-06 20:05
    Try this code.
    CON
      _CLKMODE = XTAL1 + PLL16X
      _CLKFREQ = 80_000_000
    VAR
      long delay
     
    PUB Main | localIndex, direction
      delay := _CLKFREQ / 4
      localIndex := 15
      direction := 1
      dira[23..16]~~                                        ' Set the LEDs as outputs
      repeat
        localIndex += direction
        if localIndex =< 15 or localIndex => 24
          direction *= -1
          localIndex += direction
        outa[localIndex] := 1
        waitcnt(delay + cnt)
        outa[localIndex] := 0
    

    It will turn the LEDs on one at a time.

    I've also attached a file that has the same code in it.

    Now the fun starts!

    Duane
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-06 20:23
    I think there is problem in my cable, i will soon replace it, because it is not detecting.........sometimes like now..!!
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-07 01:30
    Now, the boaed is working cool, but i think the programming part is totally different to get this, and send more program..........
    parallax, should upload some more tutorial video of this........!!


    Thanks
  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2011-07-07 08:34
    but how to check whether it is working or not
    you write a program that does something like blink an LED or output something to the serial port and see if you get it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2011-07-07 08:53
    Try this little program from the Spin tutorial:
    PUB Toggle
      dira[16]~~
      repeat
        !outa[16]
        waitcnt(3_000_000 + cnt)
    

    It'll flash the extreme right LED on P16. You'll find lots more programs you can try in the tutorial.
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-07 08:57
    you write a program that does something like blink an LED or output something to the serial port and see if you get it.

    sure, i will write program but i don't understand it staring programing totally different and today i was reading it data sheet acc. to it the QS has 8 // process of 32 bits called cog, is this true so many processor??

    Thanks
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-07 09:04
    Now, the boaed is working cool, but i think the programming part is totally different to get this, and send more program..........
    parallax, should upload some more tutorial video of this........!!


    Thanks

    Great. I'm very glad the board is working.

    I gave you a lot of links in post #4 that provides information about the Propeller.

    Also look under "Help" in The Propeller Tool. There is an ebook "Propeller Education Kit" with a lot of information. You'll need to adapt the exercises to use the the QuickStart board.

    I'd recommend you use the label I included with the QS. It will make it easier to tell which pin is where on the 40 position header. I think there is a link to a picture of the label in post #4 of this thread.

    And keep asking detailed questions here.

    Duane
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-07-07 09:10
    to it the QS has 8 // process of 32 bits called cog, is this true so many processor??

    Yes, this is what makes the Propeller so cool!

    You don't need to program all 8 cogs. You can write programs for just one cog. You'll be glad to have extra cogs later. It is a great microcontroller to use with robots because you can have each cog monitoring a different part of the robot.

    There are a lot of projects on the forum that use multiple cogs. You can learn a lot from what others have done plus you can learn a lot from all the ebooks and articles Parallax provides.

    Plus we are here to help.:smile:

    Fun, fun, fun!

    Duane
  • RITESH KAKKARRITESH KAKKAR Posts: 254
    edited 2011-07-07 09:32
    I want know, like we have 8051 uc , PIC kit, etc..........
    we just burn the micro controller from the kit and just take the working from it, is there any chance in this QS just burn IC and use it any where, without the need of board??
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