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  • CircuitsoftCircuitsoft Posts: 1,166
    edited 2012-02-08 18:43
    I always kinda figured that, but then P8x32<something> still fits on prop 2. I can't imagine it's P8x32B, since there's far more than an incremental update from the 32A.
  • __red____red__ Posts: 470
    edited 2012-02-08 19:12
    I have it on good Authority that Chip has decreed that the new chip be known simply as "Bob".
  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    edited 2012-02-08 20:07
    The 32 in P8X32A is for data/code width, i.e. eight 32-bit processors.

    -Phil

    Yup, 8x32 has to stay, as 8 cores, 32 bits, and Google and part search plays a part these days.
    I've seen some bad fumbles in Part codes, that either a) fail to find a general search, or b) find too much chatter..

    Given '8X32A' finds props on FindChips, it would be nice if that same string found Prop IIs
    - that might give 2P8x32A, or PII8x32A or P2_8x32A ?
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2012-02-08 20:16
    Bob?

    Why not an interesting name like, Weyland?

    (from the Aliens movies)
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-02-08 20:19
    Prop I: Propeller
    Prop II: SuperProp
    Prop III: TeraProp
    Prop IV: HyperProp
    Prop V: Meh, I'll be gone by then -- or too senile to care. :)

    -Phil
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2012-02-08 20:40
    Wonder if Chip has his own project name for it other than P2.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-02-09 00:06
    jazzed wrote: »
    Wonder if Chip has his own project name for it other than P2.

    It probably depends on how things are going. :lol:
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-02-09 05:28
    Just a wild thought.

    The guys building the $25 RasperryPi ARM board put some of their prototypes up for auction on eBay and they sold for thousands of pounds.

    So, how about Parallax auctioning off some early Prop IIs from shuttle runs or whatever? Even if there are broken features I bet there are Propeller Heads here who would bid on them.
  • BigFootBigFoot Posts: 259
    edited 2012-02-09 07:59
    With all the hard work Parallax has put into the Prop II, I hope they can come up with
    something better than Bob. I thought they were going to call it the TurboProp.

    Russ
  • David BetzDavid Betz Posts: 14,516
    edited 2012-02-09 08:09
    __red__ wrote: »
    I have it on good Authority that Chip has decreed that the new chip be known simply as "Bob".
    If they call it "Bob", they can make the official programming language for it my Bob programming language! :-)

    (Bob is sort of like JavaScript)
  • pedwardpedward Posts: 1,642
    edited 2012-02-09 13:24
    BigFoot wrote: »
    With all the hard work Parallax has put into the Prop II, I hope they can come up with
    something better than Bob. I thought they were going to call it the TurboProp.

    Russ

    I suspect, based on rumblings, that the next Propeller will not be call a propeller because it's seen as a "boyish" name for a micro.

    It's more likely it will be given a very pedestrian alpha-numeric name.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-02-09 13:42
    The successor to the Scribbler is called the S2, so my bet is on P2 for the next Propeller.

    -Phil
  • pedwardpedward Posts: 1,642
    edited 2012-02-09 13:58
    The successor to the Scribbler is called the S2, so my bet is on P2 for the next Propeller.

    -Phil

    The only problem with that is trademarks, Intel already has that and would not look kindly on stealing a page from their book.

    EDIT: I spoke too soon, Intel hasn't been very diligent with their Pentium related trademarks. They never registered 'P2' as a trademark and have even let such gems as "pentium inside" lapse.
  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    edited 2012-02-09 14:43
    The successor to the Scribbler is called the S2, so my bet is on P2 for the next Propeller.

    That's a start, but a name really need to be Google-compatible & part search compatible, and P2 will not find in a search.
    So they can start with P2 if they like, but names like P2c8x32A are google open. c8 for Cores:8
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,392
    edited 2012-02-09 14:47
    mindrobots wrote: »
    It probably depends on how things are going. :lol:

    So how would you feel if his secret code name were TurboProp?
  • pedwardpedward Posts: 1,642
    edited 2012-02-09 14:58
    Ken Gracey wrote: »
    So how would you feel if his secret code name were TurboProp?

    Chip has a secret code name?
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-02-09 15:34
    If he refers to it as "my Precious", please, PLEASE make him take some time off!!!
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2012-02-09 15:45
    mindrobots wrote: »
    If he refers to it as "my Precious", please, PLEASE make him take some time off!!!


    Well, he has been invisible for an extended amount time .... without any ill effects of course.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-02-09 16:01
    Ken Gracey wrote:
    So how would you feel if his secret code name were TurboProp?
    I'd say it wasn't a secret anymore. :)

    I do like the name, BTW. And it dovetails nicely with the way Turbo mode was implemented in the SX: one instruction per clock, instead of every four clocks.

    -Phil
  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,702
    edited 2012-02-09 16:52
    Ken Gracey wrote: »
    So how would you feel if his secret code name were TurboProp?

    Suits it nicely.

    The whole spinning / cogs / circular motion thing is only going to be even more relevant, given the new analog capability.
  • HShankoHShanko Posts: 402
    edited 2012-02-09 17:02
    @Ken,

    If TurboProp is used, and there becomes a Prop3 in time, what name might be usable then? Time to plan ahead! I know, you guys most likely are.
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,644
    edited 2012-02-09 17:50
    Only problem I have with TurboProp is that it reminds me of a type of airplane that I avoid at all costs...
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-02-09 18:21
    HSanko wrote:
    If TurboProp is used, and there becomes a Prop3 in time, what name might be usable then?
    RamJet, of course!

    -Phil
  • KyeKye Posts: 2,200
    edited 2012-02-09 19:52
    I proposed calling it the "Turbine". Chip thought the name was cool too.
  • HShankoHShanko Posts: 402
    edited 2012-02-09 19:53
    Phil,

    Of course, loads of Ram and uncommonly fast for Prop3. Right, RamJet
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-02-09 21:32
    I have always assumed that the next Prop would be called "Turboprop" or "Turbine". They are just natural.

    "Ramjet" is not at all suitable as a ramjet jas no rotating propeller like parts.

    The Prop 3 is then left with being "Jet" perhaps. But where to go from there?

    As for having a google searchable name I guess searching for "Parallax Turbine" would work well as "Parallax Propeller" does now. Besides there would be an alpha numeric chip name for it as well.

    I would not worry about "boyish" names like Propeller or Turbine. We are living in a world of far more stupid names. "facebook", "youtube", really.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-02-09 21:41
    heater wrote:
    "Ramjet" is not at all suitable as a ramjet has no rotating propeller like parts.
    And, of course, you just assume the Prop3 will have rotating parts, right? :)

    "RamJet" screams "throughput" with no rotating parts to hinder the flow. Of course, it may require a boost to get started.

    -Phil
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2012-02-09 23:31
    If TurboProp is used then the P3 would have to be something like JetProp. P4 the IonProp.

    There are also names like PlasmaProp, WarpProp, QuasarProp (a mouthful), etc

    I dont think RamJet fits after a TurboProp. ScramJet has the same problems.

    Anyway, it does not matter to me. I will use it whatever its called ;)
  • cgraceycgracey Posts: 14,152
    edited 2012-02-09 23:36
    We've also discussed "turban", which kind of sounds like "turbine", but doesn't force a departure from the familiar hat motif:

    turban.jpg


    This would serve to maintain the current perception among engineering "managers".
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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-02-09 23:42
    Phil,
    Can't be sure if future Parallax chips will rotating parts (conceptually) or not. But if the Prop3 were to abandon all the ideas that make a Prop a Prop, multiple small processors, round robin access to central memory etc, then it would be a totally different beast and could have whatever name suits it.

    Anyway "Turbine" still sounds great to me.
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