Unfortunately we were still adding manual results and had the prevent duplicate submissions turned off so that I could add the manual responses as they came in. . Why it would be necessary to add such protection to a fun poll is beyond me. The C person put in 54 responses in a short time frame, with the same answer, same IP address. The extra 53 responses can be deleted if CounterRotatingProps wants them gone. I did a reverse lookup(who is) to identify where the IP address is from. Maybe I should publish it for all to see.
The prevent duplicate submissions feature is now turned on.
The poll question is too open ended. Though the poll suggests "... on the propeller" I suspect some may have taken it as "... on platforms they use" which could explain the 50%+ vote for C.
I voted "Spin and some PASM" though in truth it's probably "Spin and PASM" in about equal measure, or maybe "PASM and some Spin", neither of which options exist.
Not sure what you are trying to ascertain but it might have been better to get a "how much do you use this" rating for each language.
The C person put in 54 responses in a short time frame, with the same answer, same IP address. The extra 53 responses can be deleted [noparse][[/noparse]...]
I did a reverse lookup(who is) to identify where the IP address is from. Maybe I should publish it for all to see.
Bob,
please remove the 53 invalid responses.
> Why it would be necessary to add such protection to a fun poll is beyond me.
Just more proof that C leads to an obsessive-compulsive life style, followed by learning C++ ...
and the next thing you know, you're addicted to heroin.
[noparse][[/noparse]Just Kidding]
Maybe we should take a poll on exposing the polecat who djorked the poll?
[noparse][[/noparse]Just Kidding]
I think it's best to let it go so that the naughty boy/girl can dwell over their near exposure to public view
Early this morning I voted for Spin+PASM once and C once just to see if I could do it [noparse]:)[/noparse]
I guess letting everyone vote more than once is tons of fun [noparse]:)[/noparse]
hippy said...
The poll question is too open ended. Though the poll suggests "... on the propeller" I suspect some may have taken it as "... on platforms they use" which could explain the 50%+ vote for C.
I voted "Spin and some PASM" though in truth it's probably "Spin and PASM" in about equal measure, or maybe "PASM and some Spin", neither of which options exist.
Not sure what you are trying to ascertain but it might have been better to get a "how much do you use this" rating for each language.
Hi Hippy,
as you can see, we've already determined that the data got skewed. But you are also correct - when we moved to the online survey, we took it out of its self-evident context, out of being in the prop forum and it's mentioning of obex obj's. The SPIN and PASM (versus adding a·"more PASM and some SPIN") wasn't needed for this. Again, this is a very rough survey - the data so far is very useful.
@Bob
could you please revise the text to read:
For the Propeller, which do you use (or code in) the most often?·
correct - there was another DoF Attact (Denial of Fun) from our click-happy C addict --- Bob's pulling those too ... looks more like a realistic 6 to 12 C'ers.
I had a closer look at some of the other responses as well. We have a respondent with IP 83.211.xxx.xxx (I won't post the whole thing yet) Country - ITALY (IT) that voted 9 times in a row for PASM
Let me know if you want those deleted as well.
It will take some time to clean the data up but it should start looking more realistic soon.
There are still responses that have to be added manually . Just the new ones on thread.
C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C ...
... Damn! Broke my _ key! Now I'll have to rename the _atalina _ompiler!
Ross.
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Polls can reveal a lot - even when the data threshold is very low - we have had ONE respondent say "Basic" ... and I'd wadger dogs to doughnuts we could guess who that is [noparse]:)[/noparse])
CounterRotatingProps said...
we have had ONE respondent say "Basic" ... and I'd wadger dogs to doughnuts we could guess who that is [noparse]:)[/noparse])
Maybe you do but do you know someone from China?
Who is: 220.181 etc.
descr: CHINANET Beijing province network
descr: China Telecom
Cluso99 said...
Bob: Me neither - and worse still, I am addicted to the forum !
Aside from the fun, there are some truly smart ideas and collaberation going on on this forum.
I know what you mean. I just read instead of programming... so my projects lay collecting dust :-( (calculator, pPropQL/020, CPLD+Prop, FPGA + Prop... :-( )
Now, I'm decided on making pPropQL work before Christmas... that will be fun!
OK I just voted. I always feel the need for speed so it's PASM that takes most of my Prop time. Besides it's about the neatest instruction set I've ever worked with whereas SPIN is just, well, another block structured language.
I think you have a missing option though, "PASM and some Spin", after all most of us can't get our PASM to run without Spin.
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I voted "Spin and some PASM" though in truth it's probably "Spin and PASM" in about equal measure, or maybe "PASM and some Spin", neither of which options exist.
Not sure what you are trying to ascertain but it might have been better to get a "how much do you use this" rating for each language.
please remove the 53 invalid responses.
> Why it would be necessary to add such protection to a fun poll is beyond me.
Just more proof that C leads to an obsessive-compulsive life style, followed by learning C++ ...
and the next thing you know, you're addicted to heroin.
[noparse][[/noparse]Just Kidding]
Maybe we should take a poll on exposing the polecat who djorked the poll?
[noparse][[/noparse]Just Kidding]
I think it's best to let it go so that the naughty boy/girl can dwell over their near exposure to public view
- Howard
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I guess letting everyone vote more than once is tons of fun [noparse]:)[/noparse]
as you can see, we've already determined that the data got skewed. But you are also correct - when we moved to the online survey, we took it out of its self-evident context, out of being in the prop forum and it's mentioning of obex obj's. The SPIN and PASM (versus adding a·"more PASM and some SPIN") wasn't needed for this. Again, this is a very rough survey - the data so far is very useful.
@Bob
could you please revise the text to read:
For the Propeller, which do you use (or code in) the most often?·
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Steve, this only proves you have a split personality :-P [noparse]:)[/noparse])
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The results still seem a bit skewed to me. Are you sure you removed all the duplicate votes for C?
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correct - there was another DoF Attact (Denial of Fun) from our click-happy C addict --- Bob's pulling those too ... looks more like a realistic 6 to 12 C'ers.
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I had a closer look at some of the other responses as well. We have a respondent with IP 83.211.xxx.xxx (I won't post the whole thing yet) Country - ITALY (IT) that voted 9 times in a row for PASM
Let me know if you want those deleted as well.
It will take some time to clean the data up but it should start looking more realistic soon.
There are still responses that have to be added manually . Just the new ones on thread.
Ah ha ! Looks like we have a skirmish - the C Clan have irritated the Italian PASM Mafia ...
all over our poor little Prop Turf !
Let's just pull all bad data - so we can take the fun out of their fun [noparse]:)[/noparse])
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I'd second the PASM and some Spin.
... Damn! Broke my _ key! Now I'll have to rename the _atalina _ompiler!
Ross.
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_ome to think of it _learly, a _ _ompiler without the _ _ould be _ompli_ated !
Better trademark:
" Katalina Kompiler for your all your Komputer needs "
LOL
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Ooops ... all sarcasm related to other languages erased unless I've been quoted. Pardon me please Howard.
Post Edited (jazzed) : 11/30/2009 11:50:33 PM GMT
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Maybe you do but do you know someone from China?
Who is: 220.181 etc.
descr: CHINANET Beijing province network
descr: China Telecom
Maybe we have to have a Poll or Lottery for "How long Can Ross Code C without his C key" ?
Double your bet if we remove his "{" and "}" keys ?
hehehe
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please·do let us know what's your favorite Prop Language - certainly there's more than 74 Prop Programmers here !
again, the Poll link is:
http://infopoll.net/live/surveys/s34168.htm
thanks much for your time (it's only three clicks from here to done [noparse]:)[/noparse]
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Surely there's more than that?
C'mon everyone - remember the old adage: vote early, vote often!
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That's a good thing. After I get through reading the forum daily I don't have much time left to actually do anything with the Prop.
Aside from the fun, there are some truly smart ideas and collaberation going on on this forum.
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· Prop Tools under Development or Completed (Index)
· Emulators: CPUs Z80 etc; Micros Altair etc;· Terminals·VT100 etc; (Index) ZiCog (Z80) , MoCog (6809)
· Search the Propeller forums·(uses advanced Google search)
My cruising website is: ·www.bluemagic.biz·· MultiBladeProp is: www.bluemagic.biz/cluso.htm
I know what you mean. I just read instead of programming... so my projects lay collecting dust :-( (calculator, pPropQL/020, CPLD+Prop, FPGA + Prop... :-( )
Now, I'm decided on making pPropQL work before Christmas... that will be fun!
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Visit some of my articles at Propeller Wiki:
MATH on the propeller propeller.wikispaces.com/MATH
pPropQL: propeller.wikispaces.com/pPropQL
pPropQL020: propeller.wikispaces.com/pPropQL020
OMU for the pPropQL/020 propeller.wikispaces.com/OMU
I think you have a missing option though, "PASM and some Spin", after all most of us can't get our PASM to run without Spin.
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