Propeller Remote Compiler v1 *released*
Oldbitcollector (Jeff)
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Propeller Remote Compiler:
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Many thanks to the following people: BradC, Harrison, Mpark
If you are crazy enough to try this, here are the full instructions:
You will need:
* Propeller connected with SD, ENC28J60, TV, and keyboard.
(PropDOS is recommended for this project)
* A Windows PC running the usbWebserver which can be downloaded from:
USBwebserver (freeware)
www.usbwebserver.nl/ -*- translated
Grab the attached "webserver_addons.zip" file and overwrite the Root folder
of the webserver software with those file. This will properly configure the server.
Download both "remote_compiler" and "ed" from this thread. Make the required
changed for your configuration and compile them to "compiler.bin" and "ed.bin"
Copy both of these file to your SD card.
{Special note: If your webserver is running on the same network as your propeller,
you might need to change the gateway setting in "remote_compiler.spin" to
something that doesn't actually exist. In my case 192.168.0.0}
Once you have all the files in place, activate the web server. Double check
that it is answering with your PC browser.
Launch "ED" from propDOS and type some spin code!
Press [noparse][[/noparse]F1] from ED to launch the compiler. Once finished it will reboot and
you should have a new binary file on your SD.
This should keep everyone busy for now.
{I'm working on a public server & a bunch of new features.}
I'll save the rest for display at UPEW.
OBC
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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 5/27/2009 2:15:29 AM GMT
==================
Many thanks to the following people: BradC, Harrison, Mpark
If you are crazy enough to try this, here are the full instructions:
You will need:
* Propeller connected with SD, ENC28J60, TV, and keyboard.
(PropDOS is recommended for this project)
* A Windows PC running the usbWebserver which can be downloaded from:
USBwebserver (freeware)
www.usbwebserver.nl/ -*- translated
Grab the attached "webserver_addons.zip" file and overwrite the Root folder
of the webserver software with those file. This will properly configure the server.
Download both "remote_compiler" and "ed" from this thread. Make the required
changed for your configuration and compile them to "compiler.bin" and "ed.bin"
Copy both of these file to your SD card.
{Special note: If your webserver is running on the same network as your propeller,
you might need to change the gateway setting in "remote_compiler.spin" to
something that doesn't actually exist. In my case 192.168.0.0}
Once you have all the files in place, activate the web server. Double check
that it is answering with your PC browser.
Launch "ED" from propDOS and type some spin code!
Press [noparse][[/noparse]F1] from ED to launch the compiler. Once finished it will reboot and
you should have a new binary file on your SD.
This should keep everyone busy for now.
{I'm working on a public server & a bunch of new features.}
I'll save the rest for display at UPEW.
OBC
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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 5/27/2009 2:15:29 AM GMT
Comments
What's the point of YMODEM/XMODEM ? Telent is using TCP/IP which makes all the error checking and retries etc for you. The only issue is getting a binary reply back through the telnet session. Could you not just return the compiled file as Intel HEX or even just the output of hexdump? The Prop end can easily convert that to bin.
Where does the source code come from. Is this integrated into PropDos and/or PrEditor?
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For me, the past is not over yet.
OBC
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Seriously, I appreciate all of your work, OBC. This is a community project and there is no room for egos, especially mine
I have a spare unassembled Ybox kit laying around. Can I send it to you? You can do anything you want with it.
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Post Edited (James Michael Huselton) : 5/20/2009 2:26:40 PM GMT
I was looking at ordering one.
Really, most of the pieces are already in place. I was testing BSTC last night for the backend compile. It should work perfectly. All I need to do is alter "Coggyterm" a bit and glue it together with some PERL.
OBC
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I can post more info later today if you're interested.
EDIT: You might want to update to the latest TCP stack posted on my website: harrisonpham.com/dp/proptcp. There have been numerous bug fixes that should make it much more stable now.
This is a project that requires taking a step back and seeing the whole picture.. The whole thing is really quite simple if we don't impose restrictions based on Propeller-centric concepts. The Propeller isn't the whole world.
Also, I don't see this as taking up time better spent on Propeller programming. We tend to focus on the chip to the exclusion of everything else.
I tend to take the larger view. This is a healthy exercise in shaking up the status quo. If the experiment fails, we still have the experince gained.
Also, I approach this as a hobby and hobbies are supposed to be fun.
As I mentioned in the original thread, we need to lighten up
P.S. Harrison, I just checked your site. I wasn't aware of your progress before. Thanks.
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JMH
Post Edited (James Michael Huselton) : 5/20/2009 3:50:15 PM GMT
@Harrison:
Yes, I agree. This would make the application something almost anyone
could run on a standard web account instead of the serious server adjustments
have made to security and the like.
I'll start looking at your latest code base tonight. If you have some code
which narrows down the POST and GET I'd appreciate it.
OBC
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I've been fiddling with the PC side of the problem tonight...
I think I've got it worked out.
1.. Use POST to send the file to the server (as per Harrison's suggestion)
2.. Use POST to activate a Windows .BAT file containing the BSTC compile line.
3.. Use GET to retrieve the file (as per Harrison's suggestion)
I've got step two working perfectly. It's extremely ugly, because it's something
that is not meant to happen, but it works and I can ignore the resulting output text.
Tomorrow I'll break out the PropNIC and see if I can start tying it together.
You'll be able to install a simple copy of a portable web server on your favorite PC
and compile from the Propeller at will.
OBC
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I've got Harrison fishing out some GET/POST stuff. [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Then I've got a little more work to do on the PC side. Done.
OBC
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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 5/21/2009 3:29:49 AM GMT
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"VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
It's a portable webserver, you could copy the thing to any windows box. (22MB)
The upload script is a simple PHP script. If someone wants access to it,
I'll open a hole in my firewall and "port forward" to it once it's stable.
Edit
Here's the package I'm using. USBwebserver (freeware)
www.usbwebserver.nl/ -*- translated
I'm using it's PHP and Apache server. (Don't worry there's an English switch) [noparse]:)[/noparse]
OBC
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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 5/21/2009 4:10:17 AM GMT
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--Steve
Propalyzer: Propeller PC Logic Analyzer
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=788230
The PHP upload script was so stink'n easy that I can't believe I ever bothered with PERL.
I suspect I may have some basic upload/compile by the weekend. <fingers crossed>
OBC
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Make sure the program to run privledges are set to read only+execute and use escapeshellcmd for starting your program.
Read escapeshellcmd at php.net to undestand some security implications of using system, etc...
PHP's web page is a great reference: http://www.php.net/
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--Steve
Propalyzer: Propeller PC Logic Analyzer
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=788230
I am going to take steps 2, 3 .. (as yet undefined). I'll publish the code and results.
But as far as I am concerned, mission accomplished. I just wanted to share this idea.
OBC, you did a truly blazing job of getting the first step up and running. Thank you.
You still want the YBox2 kit, right?
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JMH
Post Edited (James Michael Huselton) : 5/21/2009 6:00:06 AM GMT
@James: Yes, I'll still take you up on it. There is still work to be done on the Propeller side. Harrison is also working on some code in this direction. The Propeller side should use the SD routines for file storage making it compatible with PropDOS/PropCMD.
Since you and Harrison have 1 & 3, I'm going to take a second look at Mparks ED program and glue Baggers' text driver to it.
OBC
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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 5/21/2009 1:32:33 PM GMT
Transforming a stand-alone program from Spin or PC to AJAX or SOAP will be contigent on the authors' degree of component independence and programming techniques. Feel free to jump in if you have an editor and other tools (like GEAR, PASD, etc.) that you want to transform this way.
I am available to answer architectural questions on how to go about this and estimates of difficulty. But, as you have seen, the concept is quite simple.
And I won't use the "cloud" terminology again if you seem to have a hair-trigger emotional reaction to this
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Also, is tftpboot possible using a dynamic ip address?
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--Steve
Propalyzer: Propeller PC Logic Analyzer
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=788230
(I've switched to this text driver for the time being until PAL support can be added to AiGeneric)
Edit: new version uploaded to top thread.. revisions will be posted there.
I've left the ability to SPIN a binary by using [noparse][[/noparse]F1] from the editor for use with the
code which will transmit data to the remote compiler. Desktop is saved as desktop.tmp
OBC
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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 5/26/2009 5:13:22 AM GMT
What I had at the time was very basic but fun at the time. Attached is two screen shots.
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Aka: CosmicBob
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Links to other interesting threads:
· Home of the MultiBladeProps: TriBladeProp, SixBladeProp, website (Multiple propeller pcbs)
· Single Board Computer:·3 Propeller ICs·and a·TriBladeProp board (ZiCog Z80 Emulator)
· Prop Tools under Development or Completed (Index)
· Emulators: Micros eg Altair, and Terminals eg VT100 (Index)
· Search the Propeller forums (via Google)
My cruising website is: ·www.bluemagic.biz·· MultiBladeProp is: www.bluemagic.biz/cluso.htm
It isn't up yet, but all the pieces are there.
Harrison is still making some refinements to his TCP/IP stuff.
A little glue here and there and I think we'll have it.
With such capable netbooks available it's a silly desire to
write and compile code with a simple text editor on the
Propeller. *yet* [noparse]:)[/noparse] What is wrong with us? <SMIRK>
OBC
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Let me know if you received the PC board. I found some ENC28J60 parts from another project, including the magnetics and other sexy bits.
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Links to other interesting threads:
· Home of the MultiBladeProps: TriBladeProp, SixBladeProp, website (Multiple propeller pcbs)
· Single Board Computer:·3 Propeller ICs·and a·TriBladeProp board (ZiCog Z80 Emulator)
· Prop Tools under Development or Completed (Index)
· Emulators: Micros eg Altair, and Terminals eg VT100 (Index)
· Search the Propeller forums (via Google)
My cruising website is: ·www.bluemagic.biz·· MultiBladeProp is: www.bluemagic.biz/cluso.htm
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Cluso was responding partly to you - but mostly to OBC - wondering what was wrong with us that we seem so willing to spend so many hours on projects that - at least to others - probably seem rather pointless and silly.
Does the world really need a web-enabled Propeller? Of course not.
Does the world really need the ability to develop software for the propeller on the propeller? Of course not.
We do it because (a) we can, (b) we have the time, and (c) we enjoy doing it.
Ross.
P.S. Have you realized that both Cluso and yourself are really after the same thing (i.e. a self-hosted propeller development environment)? You are just taking different approaches.
P.P.S. Does the world really need another C compiler for the Propeller? Absolutely!
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Catalina - a FREE C compiler for the Propeller - see Catalina
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