Ok, I have a slave about ready to go, just have to make the connections from the master over to it. I have another show tonight so it will be late till I get home again and I need to get some sleep.
I will probably be up to 4 cdt will be testing code as soon as I get more modules built
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If the last version is not doing what it should please try and detail exactly what it is doing. If you only have 1 slave you can download and run the program 3 0r 4 times with the slave in the first 3 or 4 positions (as slave 1, 2, 3, 4).
ok, i wont be gettinh anything done till morning the lack of sleep is catching up with me and we are about 90 miles from home right now and the drive sucks
yep. chip wrote a program to do just that. I am still having a bit of trouble though getting my bootloader to work.
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Ok, no worries. I'm having trouble with one of the 7ch595 (i think) chips on the master board, when it's plugged in, it drops my 3.3v. I'll do some testing with it tonight to see. Had a bad day with the electronics yesterday, my partner got frustrated with building the star and he messed up labeling a big mix that cost a couple of us at least two hours of work, then he left without saying anything so I was forced to work on the fireworks instead of the system so that cost me an entire day on the firing system. I am hoping a bunch of people will show up tonight so I can focus on getting the electronics up and running, the way it is, I'm going to probably have to back down on the number of slaves I'm going to have just based on the time left and what needs to be done.
chaosgk, I hope you have a backup method for the July 4th fireworks. It would be a miracle if we can get the hardware working and the software debugged by then. Please let me know ASAP what the results are when you run the program with the master and at least one slave.
so now you just need to some how get it on to your module.
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Hey, I think I have the parts for the serial to parallel programming board. can I put a .1uf in place of the .01uf cap? I don't have any of those around here, the ones I had were used for the audio out.
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Ok, I am going to etch and solder it right now then. Our local newspaper came out for an interview now and it sounds like we will have a lot of people out here so I gotta get this done. Kwinn, anything else we need?
kwinn once the bootloader is installed you can send code.bin files for him to install on the module. and they will be installed via the uSD card reader.
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I need to get the millisecond timer running in its own cog and then we need to add the music player and debug everything. Please try out what I sent to see if that works as soon as the hardware is ready. I am off tomorrow and have scheduled as little work as possible for Thursday and Friday so I can work on this.
when using the serial prop programming board, do I still need to supply 3.3v to the propmod or does it pull that off the programming interface?· Also on these PMP transistors, did you draw the pins in the correct order?· I assume that the line in the center is #2 and 1 is bottom and 3 is top, please correct me if I'm wrong.· I have base, emitter, and collector, what goes where.· The board is printed and soldered except for those connections.
BTW, I missed the post on the backup plan.· Yes, we sort of have a last resort, I don't like it, but I did think ahead and make all of my ignitor boards compatible with my old firing board so if we have to, we can fall back on that and still get most of it in the air. I won't know for sure what I'm going to be setting off just because it would take a week to plan and map everything in the correct order and there will have to be cable changes to that board as it only supports 90 cue points.· I'm doing everything I can to get the hardware up and running.
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What connections actually need to be made to the prop to program it besides the 4 on the programming header? I would assume I need the VDD and the VSS next to it, or should it actually be installed on the board so everything is connected.
You need power to the module and the 4 wires on head
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I have the programmer built according to the schematic except i am using a .1uf cap instead of a .01, Which side would be ground on that cap? I have it as the side going to the prop, or do I have the wrong type of cap? For power, I am running a 9v battery into the programmer and into a 3.3v regulator From the regulator I have a header that connects 3.3v to the prop on the two pins in the upper right on the drawing of it VSS and VDD. What is the purpose of the 10k between serial pin2 (RX) and 4 (dtr) I'm getting a little frustrated and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Where is the software to make the prop usb board talk to the propmod and program it. You mentioned chip wrote it earlier.
Also in the boombox.spin, when I load it in the propeller tool, I get a error about combokeyboard.spin not found.
I am on my blackberry so can't see schematic but as I remember here it is
There are 2 10k resisters acting as voltage divider fron serial to drop the 12v and drive the tranister
To run the 3.3v input.
From output of prop is a current limiting resister to run transistor driving the 12v to serial.
Somewher there is a transistor running reset. Forget how it is hooked up
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I must be all messed up then on how it works. I have it built exactly as the schematic shows, I've tried swapping my rx/tx lines around to see if I had them backwards. I'm going to go back and look and see if I missed something, but the software doesnt' seem to find a prop on the serial port.
I also ran into a major problem. I went and pulled out my backup firing board and as it turns out, as it sits, the ignitor distribution boards aren't compatible with it. I had the old system designed to use each pair as a ignition point where the new system is designed to use the solid brown as the common ground and the rest of the wires are ignition lines so I may have to rebuild that. It won't be hard to do that, back when I built that one I didn't have the means to print my own boards where now I can pack about 90 switches onto a pretty small board with all of the lights and everything. That is a last resort if we can't find a way to get the loader onto my propmod.
I can shoot you a pic message off my phone of the serial adapter schematic if that helps.
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Ok, first off guys, I need to say I'm sorry. I had to make an extremely hard judgemnet call today based on some new things that have come up and I feel so terrible about it, especially after the two of you have put in so much time and effort on my part to get this working, and it pains me a great deal to say, but I have to go with my backup firing system. It was an extremely hard decision to make but I had to do it, the show depends on it, now more than ever. I was contacted by one of our regional networks today for a TV interview and story on what we are doing and my partner was also contacted by the other regional TV network for them to do a story as well. At this point, I really hope you can understand why I made the decision to go with the backup system.
We are by no means scrapping the firing board, it will just need to be put on hold until after the 4th. We have so much more to do now because of the added publicity that I just can't sacrafice the time in hopes that I can get everything working on my part for the computer system. As a bonus though, with the added publicity, we can hopefully raise enough money to get all of the boards professionally printed, get some added features, and we will have the pressure taken off to get it working correctly. I would hate to rush it and miss something could potentiallly cause a major problem, either with things not working correctly and the show being shut down, or something worse.
Again, There is no way I can thank you two enough for your work and putting up with me not knowing very much about any of this and everything else you have done for a total stranger on the internet. Once the 4th is over and the pressure is off, I'll get back to work on it again, but at least you guys don't need to worry about your end for a while and we can get to it when we get to it.
Your Friend......
Derrick.
That is to bad to here but understandable. now you have time to mail the propmodule to someone with a propplug so they can put the boot loader on it for you.
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Actually now that I have time i'm just going to order the propplug itself so if I need to load something I can. Thanks
The TV reporter came out this morning for the interview and we'll be on the 6:00 and 10:00 news as well as making the front page of the paper today [noparse]:)[/noparse]
That works also. The bootloder is my emulation of prupplug. Let's you install new code through sd instead. If you have propplug though you can use viewport or donglebasic. Both use to allow live communication between computer and prop
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I will check the forum when I get up tomorrow.
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so now you just need to some how get it on to your module.
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Post Edited (chaosgk) : 7/1/2009 3:38:07 AM GMT
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top of this page has a diagram with what pins are what
you need to look up the datasheet for the exact part you have.
you can see there are many different shapes and sizes of 3904
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Also in the boombox.spin, when I load it in the propeller tool, I get a error about combokeyboard.spin not found.
Post Edited (chaosgk) : 7/1/2009 4:21:38 PM GMT
There are 2 10k resisters acting as voltage divider fron serial to drop the 12v and drive the tranister
To run the 3.3v input.
From output of prop is a current limiting resister to run transistor driving the 12v to serial.
Somewher there is a transistor running reset. Forget how it is hooked up
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I also ran into a major problem. I went and pulled out my backup firing board and as it turns out, as it sits, the ignitor distribution boards aren't compatible with it. I had the old system designed to use each pair as a ignition point where the new system is designed to use the solid brown as the common ground and the rest of the wires are ignition lines so I may have to rebuild that. It won't be hard to do that, back when I built that one I didn't have the means to print my own boards where now I can pack about 90 switches onto a pretty small board with all of the lights and everything. That is a last resort if we can't find a way to get the loader onto my propmod.
I can shoot you a pic message off my phone of the serial adapter schematic if that helps.
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=817309
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Ok, first off guys, I need to say I'm sorry. I had to make an extremely hard judgemnet call today based on some new things that have come up and I feel so terrible about it, especially after the two of you have put in so much time and effort on my part to get this working, and it pains me a great deal to say, but I have to go with my backup firing system. It was an extremely hard decision to make but I had to do it, the show depends on it, now more than ever. I was contacted by one of our regional networks today for a TV interview and story on what we are doing and my partner was also contacted by the other regional TV network for them to do a story as well. At this point, I really hope you can understand why I made the decision to go with the backup system.
We are by no means scrapping the firing board, it will just need to be put on hold until after the 4th. We have so much more to do now because of the added publicity that I just can't sacrafice the time in hopes that I can get everything working on my part for the computer system. As a bonus though, with the added publicity, we can hopefully raise enough money to get all of the boards professionally printed, get some added features, and we will have the pressure taken off to get it working correctly. I would hate to rush it and miss something could potentiallly cause a major problem, either with things not working correctly and the show being shut down, or something worse.
Again, There is no way I can thank you two enough for your work and putting up with me not knowing very much about any of this and everything else you have done for a total stranger on the internet. Once the 4th is over and the pressure is off, I'll get back to work on it again, but at least you guys don't need to worry about your end for a while and we can get to it when we get to it.
Your Friend......
Derrick.
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The TV reporter came out this morning for the interview and we'll be on the 6:00 and 10:00 news as well as making the front page of the paper today [noparse]:)[/noparse]
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