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Any experience with CO or Explosive Vapor sensors?

Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
edited 2007-10-29 16:56 in General Discussion
Anyone have experience with carbon monoxide sensors or gasoline/hydrogen vapor sensors like those used in boating? I'm interested in what kind of interfacing (and sensor models) would be needed for a demonstration type project. This would be part of an interactive art installation and there would be some sort of adjustable threshold used to light different color LEDs. I tried doing a web search, but couldn't even find online datasheets.

Another part of this piece would involve detecting someone's pulse using an IR emitter/phototransistor pair. I know you'd get a periodic variation in IR absorption, maybe do a Fourier transform to look for peaks in the expected range over a 30-60 second data window. Any suggestions / references?

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  • metron9metron9 Posts: 1,100
    edited 2007-10-26 21:13
    Hey Mike. I bought some Alcohol sensors from link below. Thay have a bunch of gas sensors.

    http://www.futurlec.com/Gas_Sensors.shtml

    I also made a pulse oxcymeter that worked using a parallax light to frequency converter and IR sensors. Search the web for home built pulse oxcymeter (perhaps spell it better) It is made using a piece of 1" pvc water tubing.
    Oh wait a sec, i found the pdf on my computer for that attached,

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2007-10-27 02:39
    Thanks for your help. The article and the Futurlec link helped get things started.
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2007-10-27 03:59
    AJ-9000,
    Thanks. I've now got a couple of sites for the plain sensors. In many ways, appearance is more important than functionality. An alcohol sensor and a carbon monoxide sensor might be the best since they can be triggered by waving an alcohol wipe nearby or having a cigarette smoker blow smoke on it.
  • metron9metron9 Posts: 1,100
    edited 2007-10-27 09:04
    Post your circuit on the alcohol sensor part. I really should hook mine up, have a drink and test it.

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  • Tracy AllenTracy Allen Posts: 6,666
    edited 2007-10-27 22:07
    Here are a couple more links for CO and VOC (alcohol & organic solvent) sensors. The first two are catalytic sensors like the ones listed at Futurlec, and they typically have a heater inside that consumes quite a bit of power (relative of course) to raise the substrate to about 150 degC. The external circuit measures a resistance or voltage dependent on gas concentration.
    www.figarosensor.com/gaslist.html
    and
    www.synkera.com/products/sensors.htm

    The following are electrochemical cells for Carbon Monoxide detection, as found in home safety CO detectors. These use much less operating power (no heater!). The circuit required is a potentiostat, to measure an electrode voltage at practically zero current--usually evaluation modules are available to provide this function. I've looked briefly into hacking into commercial CO alarms, but they are not exactly easy to reverse engineer.
    www.citytech.com
    and
    www.monox.com/about.htm

    Either of those technologies have limited lifetime, and please take all their claims of long term stability with a grain of salt. For quantitative measurements, they require frequent recalibration.

    At the high end of the price and performance curves are the optoelectronic sensors that use a couple of light wavelengths, one on a peak another in a trough of the target gas light absorption. The price and physical bulk of those are going down, but still relatively big and costly.

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    www.emesystems.com

    Post Edited (Tracy Allen) : 10/27/2007 10:19:04 PM GMT
  • metron9metron9 Posts: 1,100
    edited 2007-10-28 06:07
    Amazing though how NASA can learn about the gasses around planets millions of miles away, that must cost some big bucks I suspect. All I can say is hey, I helped pay for it...

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  • Tracy AllenTracy Allen Posts: 6,666
    edited 2007-10-29 16:56
    Our own Martin Hebel has an article written for a NATO project on biosensors in a telemetry system using the Propeller. I ran across it on the Propeller chip sales page...
    www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/prop/Parallel_Computing_Voltammetry.pdf

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