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  • PJMontyPJMonty Posts: 983
    edited 2006-02-13 09:14
    George,

    Actually I did work on it during Chinese New Year since I had four days off instead of the usual one. This particular job is a six day a week situation. As for noodles? Love them. Although I enjoy the various noodles in broth dishes, my favorite dish is Singapore Style fried noodles. I always liked that back home, and when I found out I could get them here a down the block from where I'm working, I was in heaven. They're cheap and delicious. A plate of noodles and a bowl of rice (yeah, I know, if you're eating noodles you don't normally eat rice, but whatever) costs a burning $38 HK, or $5 US.

    I also have found that by eating in the local restaurants, I have gained some serious "cool guy" points with the folks I work with. Most Westerners come to Hong Kong and won't eat in the local joints becuase they tend to look, well, "funky" is putting it politely. I figure that since the locals aren't dropping like flies or getting sick every other day, then it can't be too bad. It's been a couple of months now and I've had no problems.

    One thing I find amusing is that it's a common habit here to order hot tea with your meal so you can "clean" the utensils before you eat with them. I don't bother because the plates and cups are washed in the same place as the utensils, and no one is trying to clean the plate full of food before they eat off it. Either it's clean, or it's not - just eat and you'll know soon enough.
      Thanks, PeterM
  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2006-02-13 12:16
    Peter,
    I loved the FAQ. I think the guys from Parallax will back me up when I say "I would starve to death in china/hong kong". I nearly lost it at the restuant Ken took me to.

    Bean.

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2006-02-13 13:29
    Only Westerners work though Chinese New Years. That is about the only time off you get all year. I worked 7 days a week for my first 3 1/2 years in Taiwan - still work six.

    Pot Stickers, which are big money in the USA, are quite reasonable here and loads of shrimp. At least you have an appetite for Asia. Taiwanese don't do the tea washing thing, but everything is on paper and dispossible - the water is questionable.

    Green tea is better for your digestion than coffee, but I am a major supporter of the local Starbucks. It's in the blood.

    Swinertons in Kowloon will provide you with anything in the way of an English book, including good programing textbooks. They have a bit of a British flavor - willing to stock real information. And they used to be quite larger, but after going back to China there is less market for English. I may ask you to locate a book or two. Kaohsiung has next to nothing.

    I still shop there whenever I am in Hong Kong. It is better than Stacey's in San Francisco.· Seems silly, but people suggest I fly to Singapore to buy books.

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    Post Edited (Kramer) : 2/13/2006 2:16:56 PM GMT
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2006-02-13 15:39
    Bean,

    I'm not sure you'd stave to death.

    You don't know what you're missing. On the last trip we were treated to cow tongue, snails, Peking duck, fish stomach (a pastry filled with fish), rabbit, and drunken prawns. There was no southern BBQ anywhere to be found. By the second day your mind would be appreciative of the different food, as your stomach would be asking for more at the first taste of duck blood soup. Your body and mind would be in total disagreement until your mind realized that the food is fairly benign, especially compared to the three-day old survival steak you packed from the USA.

    Kramer would agree, too.

    So, get your passport . . . as for me, I get more of this fantastic food next week!

    Ken Gracey
    Parallax, Inc.
  • RsadeikaRsadeika Posts: 3,837
    edited 2006-02-13 15:53
    Stop, you are making me hungry, I love that kind of different stuff. On a trip to Toronto, some time ago, I went to a Chinese resturant that was supposed to be pretty authentic, and I had a chance to try stuff like thousand year old eggs. Unfortunately, here in the midwest, their is no market for authentic food like that. Everybody that I know has a reaction like Bean.

    Ray
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2006-02-13 19:09
    Bean (Hitt Consulting) said...(trimmed)
    Peter,
    I loved the FAQ. I think the guys from Parallax will back me up when I say "I would starve to death in china/hong kong". I nearly lost it at the restuant Ken took me to.
    Bean.
    Bean,

    ·· Having been a transplant from NY I'm going to have to back you on this one.· I don't even go to lunch with them anymore!· =)· I just go home and enjoy my meat & potatoes...Oh and home-made Pizza, since they have all these "New York Pizza" places out here that are nothing like New York!

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2006-02-13 19:38
    Attention Chris and Bean - we have peanut butter and jelly sandwiches on Wonder bread in the kitchen!

    Some of the greatest food in China is shown below. The first picture is Schezuan fish - this is an oil-cooked fish with tons of hot peppers floating around. Not sure if Kramer eats this in Taiwan. The second picture isn't an aquarium, but the corner of the restaurant where you choose the fish you'd like to have cooked to your specifications.

    Ken Gracey
    Parallax, Inc.
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  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2006-02-13 19:57
    Boy did this thread get off-topic.
    Hey Ken, sure that stuff might not kill me....But why chance it [noparse];)[/noparse]

    Really if you think about some of our food is really weird.
    For breakfast you take the unborn fedus of a bird from it's shell and mix it around, then fry it.
    There you go... scrambled eggs.

    Bean.

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    http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=30015

    Product web site: www.sxvm.com

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  • Paul BakerPaul Baker Posts: 6,351
    edited 2006-02-13 20:09
    Actually I think eggs you buy in the store are unfertilized (or if they are, they are refridgerated almost immeadiately to prevent incubation from happening, so there really isn't a fetus to speak of). But in some asian cultures it is a delecacy to let the incubation to occur until nearly the end, boil it and eat the chick inside (whole).

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2006-02-13 20:12
    There went my appetite...And it's lunchtime...

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  • dkemppaidkemppai Posts: 315
    edited 2006-02-14 02:42
    PJMonty said...
    Hey Boys and Girls!

    Just wanted to provide a quick update on the C compiler support status. First of all, you should understand that this involves work back and forth between two companies - CCS and Parallax. Second, when I say "Parallax", I really mean "me". Third, when I say... "me", I mean the me who is not an employee of Parallax, but just a sub-contractor working for Parallax on the SX-Key IDE. Fourth, when I say... well, let me just add that I took on a full time job a few months ago that shipped me to Hong Kong, and there is a 16 hour time difference between myself and Parallax or CCS.

    Peter,
    Well, gee, if the code was open sourced, I'd like to at least take a peek at it.·(Actually, I have a
    copy of the .zip from sxlist, but just not the password for the file). But,·I imagine that
    you've made quite a few changes to the IDE since then. One of my sub duties is to write PC code.
    I know how this stuff goes...·· ...so we really do appreciate the work you're putting into it.



    Ken,

    Why does this freaking page always want to double space everything when I hit the return key?!?

    Anyway I sure hope that I have time to work with the CCS when it finally gets handed out. I'd love to dig into it. It would be really nice to ride the learning curve with everyone else... ...that way I wouldn't get left behind! I think it would be a great opportunity. As long as my schedule isn't too busy, or your timeline isn't too quick you can count me in.

    Also, I may have one or two extra circuit boards that I could loan out for debug purposes. The only problem is that they need the SX52. But they have·two PWM channels with drivers with 20Amp fets in full H-Bridge configuration, 2 RS232 coms, 2 ADC's, 1 DAC, and·a 2x16·LCD. If someone else were interested in working with me, we could co-develop code on these boards... ...but we can cross that bridge when we get there.

    Thanks,

    -Dan



    P.S I believe the Egg thing you guys·are talking about is Balute. I'll pass. I think I'll just go out, and shoot a deer, dig shoulder deep in the guts to empty it out, skin it, and cut a few fresh steaks and fry them up in butter and onions and pepper.

    Actually, now that we're way off subject again...·· ...I think more people should kill what they eat. It really gives you more of an appreciation for the food you consume. You don't really think about life, until you're sitting down enjoying a steak, remembering the moment you killed the animal that you are eating. It is then that you truly respect nature and life. One of the most powerful and awesome set of emotions you may ever experience will fill you when you remember that journey. It's not about killing, it's about communing with nature, and being part of nature. Eat a hamburger and you're just paying someone to do the work, so that·you can miss out on something that you·should be experiencing yourself.·I think this is where our American culture is missing out.·Many other·peoples respect the food they eat because they are close to it than we are....
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2006-02-14 07:48
    Okay Okay, enough about food. [noparse][[/noparse]I know I started it.]

    If you need a proof reader to expedite this project I would be happy to try. As you are in Hong Kong and only one person, it seems that some support may help.

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  • roofis27roofis27 Posts: 2
    edited 2006-02-17 13:14
    C Programming for the SX!?!

    Wow, this sounds great! Assembly is cool, until you start programming for the real world, with deadlines and such. I abandoned SX chips in favor of Atmel AVR chips and have been using GCC (Gnu, open-source C tools). If CCS could match the quality of the GCC tools I'd be ecstatic. I just ordered three SX48 prototyping boards and would love to assist in the testing efforts.

    There's a bunch of tools that I would be willing to write/port for the compiler, such as·graphic display·interfaces, stepper motor drivers, TWI functions and such. I have a good collection for the AVRs. I've got an EE degree and four years of QA experience, and will be out of a job in another three weeks; I could contribute quite a lot. I'd be glad to hear more details - <roofis27@yahoo.com>.

    But please, I've heard enough about fish stomach soup...

    Cheers,

    -Ken Shinn
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