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Oranizing components, help plase :)

BorisBoris Posts: 81
edited 2010-01-12 05:22 in General Discussion
the amount of components seems to be growing exponentially. It is no longer convenient to keep them all in 1 box and go fishing every time I need something in there.
Similar to some of the other forum members, I bought 2 plastic drawer storage containers (from Lowes)
a 60 drawer cabinet (6 across x 10 down). Each drawer can be devided into 3 compartments
a 48 drawer cabinet (38 small ones and 10 big drawers).

Ok, enough with the details.
What method should i use in filling the compartments, organizing the drawers....
I am sure that I do not have all the possible values of resistors right now, but might ger more in the future. Should I make room for all possible values? or just fill in what I have now, and re-organize every time i get a new value ?
Same thing goes for all the other components.
How do you (guys who have these type of storage) have things sorted out ?

Thank you,

Boris.
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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2005-04-03 01:30
    Boris,

    ·· Trial and error!· LOL· You will have to find a method that you're comfortable with.· I've done it both ways...Made room for extras, and in some cases re-organized a cabinet each time I added something.· When all the cabinets match, or are the same brand, it's not too big of a deal.· When the drawers are different, that's when it gets interesting.



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  • JonbJonb Posts: 146
    edited 2005-04-03 03:29
    In the past I kept my components in labeled parts drawer towers.
    Now I keep them in a small box(which can be stowed away in a desk drawer and includes moisture absorbing packets). I purchased a bunch of small plastic baggies and keep most in those properly labeled. I then put comon components such as resistors together in a large baggie. I thrive in chaos!

    My ICs are stored in those little containers samples from maxim come in with the plastic lids(they stack nicely). When searching for an IC I pull out the little boxes and search through them. This helps me browse the available ICs so I dont forget which ones I have. Instead of a database I simply keep a pdf file of every component I have in a folder.

    In the past I would create a database in Access or MySql and make a small interface in VBA or VB to track inventory. The trick to avoid extensive inventory control with databases is to keep your inventory to the basics. I regularly flush parts on ebay to keep my clutter manageable.

    Now that you know where I'm coming from, I admire your initiative to organise your parts. Keep most commonly used components in the drawers. So plan provisions for changing the layout regularly depending on the projects you work on. If you are a hobbyist or prototyper, this will change alot so commiting to one layout is restrictive. I doubt you will ever settle on one way of doing it tongue.gif thats why Digikey sends extra labels.


    Post Edited (Jonb) : 4/3/2005 2:54:33 AM GMT
  • KenMKenM Posts: 657
    edited 2005-04-03 03:40
    One suggestion for resistors.....
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  • Steve JoblinSteve Joblin Posts: 784
    edited 2005-04-03 14:02
    I can help with this one!· I built a box that is big enough to hold a bunch of standard size envelopes standing upright.· Specifically, the inside dimensions should be about 9 3/4" wide, by 3" high, by about 7" to 10" deep.

    I then bought a box of standard size envelopes and put resistors of the same value in·their own·envelope.· I then obviously sorted the envelopes by value.· It is easy to find the correct value when I need it (it is like looking through a card catalog in a library).· It is also a nice system because I can easily add new values without having reorganize anything.

    Hope this helps!
  • Ray IddingsRay Iddings Posts: 47
    edited 2005-04-03 14:33
    Im reading this thread and laughing because I have been organizing my "stuff" all weekend. Its funny I think when I turn the light off over my bench my parts reprodce. I went from a managable size of components to well a ton o' stuff. I have alot of the plastic storage boxes that come with the sliding dividers so you can make the compartments any size you want. the nice thing is the top is clear so you can see what yu have without opening the box.


    anyway good luck on the organizing if you bench looks like mine, your gonna need it.

    Ray

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  • BorisBoris Posts: 81
    edited 2005-04-03 16:41
    Thank you all for the info.
    I am going to follow KenM suggestion and have ranges of resistance values, same for capacitors.
    I do want to make an Excel / VBA application to keep track of inventory, not necessarilyl because I have such a large inventory but I want to mess around with VBA [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    Just 1 more question.
    I bought an assortment of capacitors on e-bay. The smaller ones come attached to this paper tape (their legs are between two layers of paper tape glued together). Removing them is a pain in the.... I cant separate the two layers of paper tape. I can pull the resistors straight out of the tape, but im afraid that putting that much force on the legs of the capacitor can cause the legs to pull out of the body, or mess something up.... Am I being paranoid here ? Is there an easier way to remove the capacitors from this tape?
  • KenMKenM Posts: 657
    edited 2005-04-03 17:36
    If the leads are long enough, I would cut them. I typically leave the caps on the paper reel until I am ready to use them, then cut them from the paper reel

    I know what you mean about seperating the paper, a pain !!

    I don't think you are being paranoid about damaging the cap with the force required to pull the leads from the paper reel.
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2005-04-03 17:53
    ·· I too had to laugh while reading this.· Since my recent move, I find that I am still finding things to put away amongst the piles of boxes.· While I have most everything organized, adding things sometimes messes up my system a little.· To that end I have attached a couple of pictures of my "work-in-progress office."· Yes I have cabinets...No it doesn't 100% keep my bench mess free, as you will see.



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  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2005-04-03 17:58
    The pic attached is what I have at work.· And you'll notice all the stuff stacked on top that there isn't room for...and there are benches behind me that have stuff "tossed" in the drawers!

    In any single drawer slot there we keep 3 sets of similar items...so, in the front of a drawer would be 1kohm resistors, in the middle 1.2kohm, in the end, 1.5k.· Then the next slot over would have 2k....and on and on!

    Keep things in groups.· So...resistors close together....allow room to expand.

    Keep your CMOS and other 'sensitive' ICs wrapped in tinfoil or in anti-static bags!

    We keep little screws and hardware in the drawers too....

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2005-04-03 18:01
    Steve,

    ·· Someday I am going to have a dedicated workshop area, and I will finally have the room to have all the cabinets I need to store all of my parts as well.· <sigh>· You're so lucky that you can have that whole wall for parts cabinets.· As you'll see in my pics, I had to stack them all over, and that doesn't show two that are in another room.



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  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2005-04-03 19:35
    I have to give credit to the tech that was there before me! He created it....but it certainly is useful!

    I've seen those rotating cabinets too! GREAT for garages and heavy/bigger items...but I wouldn't use it for electroni components!
    Even an old mapchart cabinet with the dividers in them!

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  • KenMKenM Posts: 657
    edited 2005-04-03 21:06
    Hey Chris,

    You live in California now.......I would hate to see you need to seperate and organize all the stuff that falls out of the drawers when you experience your first California Earthquake !!


    Post Edited (KenM) : 4/4/2005 1:44:57 AM GMT
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2005-04-03 23:10
    Yikes KenM ...Earthquake! I was just thinking to myself that at least you can see the bottom of Chris's work bench,
    but after an earthquake....hmmm

    ...No really, at least you can see the bottom of your work bench... I go through periods sometimes (err most of the time)
    where my workbench is a complete wreck with about a bazillion different projects! perhaps I should take a picture, and start
    a new thread "This Ole Junk Shop"

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  • KenMKenM Posts: 657
    edited 2005-04-03 23:15
    Beau I agree,

    Chris's setup looks pretty sick....not enough clutter. Does he really do electronics? Remember though, he just moved recently, give it some time, ha ha.

    From your description, your electronics workbench looks similar to mine.
    Beau Schwabe said...
    Yikes KenM ...Earthquake! I was just thinking to myself that at least you can see the bottom of Chris's work bench,
    but after an earthquake....hmmm

    ...No really, at least you can see the bottom of your work bench... I go through periods sometimes (err most of the time)
    where my workbench is a complete wreck with about a bazillion different projects! perhaps I should take a picture, and start
    a new thread "This Ole Junk Shop"

  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2005-04-04 00:57
    Guys,

    ·· Okay, okay...It's not broken in yet for one thing!· LOL· I had to give up 3 of the cabinets before I moved for lack of room.· Second, My wife's rule was that if I was going to take over the section of the apartment I did, I had to keep it somewhat tidy!· blush.gif

    ·· As for earthquakes...I'm told that's farther south...But hey, ya never know!· I saw SNOW 2 weeks ago SOUTH of me...Like 2"!· I never even heard of that!· Besides, what would happen is Steve's cabinets fell for some reason?!?· Think about it!



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  • KenMKenM Posts: 657
    edited 2005-04-04 01:38
    Chris Savage (Parallax) said...



    ·As for earthquakes...I'm told that's farther south...But hey, ya never know!

    Chris, I wouldn't worry......you won't have time do anything about it once it starts.
    This was in 1989.


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  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2005-04-04 04:03
    This Ole Junk Shop...

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=531927

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  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2005-04-04 14:20
    LUckily where I am, we dont' have earthquakes (knock on wood)...at least nothing regular enough to worry about!

    If anything did happen, it'd be the tower coming down on us (see pic)!!

    As nice as it is, having items at torso/eye level....anything with this many small parts floating in them scares me!!· I'd love a floor model...but oh well!

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  • bobledouxbobledoux Posts: 187
    edited 2005-04-04 14:33
    Allelectronics.com has high quality, 10 section, stacking boxes. A case of 36 costs $30. Size is 7" by 3.4" by 1.25." I bought a case, and I keep all my electronic components in a cabinet. The side face is marked with mailing labels. Their part number is SB-10.

    In addition, I have plastic shoe boxes for categories like motors, circuit board, and wire. My work bench is neat and tidy, unless I'm building.
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2005-04-04 15:00
    Steve,

    What's that about 60-65 thousand cubic feet of water in that tower? That's a-lotta-watta!!

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  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2005-04-04 16:11
    Hi Beau, actually it's a weather radar. We've gone to a newer tower, but I didn't have a pic of that!
    We just had a snow storm and you can hear the snow impacting our roof as it falls off the dome.

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  • nick bernardnick bernard Posts: 329
    edited 2005-04-04 16:19
    organize this... hehe

    i use a 38 drawer cabinet to store my things. my passives are grouped by value and my descrete semi's are grouped by type, but my ic's are grouped by necessity, that is the ic's i use most have their own drawers, but the things i seldom use are in packing tubes cut to fit in the drawers. that keeps them seperate by name but grouped by function.

    also if i have a large project going i'll organize the parts in storage totes (in "far left bench.jpg" the red totes on the shelf and the yellow totes just to the right) that way when the tech's assemble my designs everything is in one place

    rox on

    nickB

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  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2005-04-04 17:19
    I like the Calendar!

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  • nick bernardnick bernard Posts: 329
    edited 2005-04-04 18:00
    a swimsuit calendar is an essential part of electronics component oranization

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  • Guenther DaubachGuenther Daubach Posts: 1,321
    edited 2005-04-05 15:06
    I'm using a lot of drawer cabinets to store my components. In the beginning, I had the idea to nicely label the drawers with what's inside, and give the drawers a certain order in the cabinets. It soon drove me nuts when I had to "sort in" a drawer with a new component, e.g. a drawer for 3k0 resistors between the two drawers for 2k7 and 3k3. This means I had to "shift" all drawers following and including the 3k3 drawer one position "to the right". (Nice job to insert 1.5 Ohms this way :-( ).

    Therefore, now all my drawers ar simply labelled with ascending numbers. I use an Excel folder with separate sheets for resistors, capacitors, ICs, etc. On each sheet there is one column listing the various components and another column containing the drawer numbers where the specific components are stored. "Inserting" a new value is an easy task: I just add the new value at the bottom of the table in the components column, locate the next empty drawer, put its number in the corresponding drawers column and then do a re-sort of the table.

    This is what some people call a "chaos organization" but it helped me a lot to reduce chaos here smile.gif .

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2005-04-05 15:20
    Guenther,

    ·· I do have to go through that when I add something...But re-sorting all the drawers once in awhile seemed like less work to me than having to look them up on a sheet (Which I too had considered once).· Besides, I thought ahead last time.· I bought a HUGE collection of a lot of values, and therefore it's very rare with resistors and capacitors to have to go through that.· On ICs it happens monthly!· Sometimes I have to add a new cabinet.· One day it'll look like Steveb's setup!· cool.gif

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  • nick bernardnick bernard Posts: 329
    edited 2005-04-05 18:33
    when it comes to truley accurate and effecient component organization i suppose you're choosing between the lesser of two evils. i,in a less organized fasion, have a cardboard box with small plastic boxes that hold several different value resistors. i seldom have to use any of them. there are 6 values that i try to use in my designs that i keep in one drawer of my cabinet in small, labeled plastic bags. i also found that the plastic boxes that 3m's 33+ electrical tape comes in are good for storing components and other small parts.

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    Post Edited (nick bernard) : 4/5/2005 6:36:21 PM GMT
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  • Jim McCorisonJim McCorison Posts: 359
    edited 2005-04-05 18:44
    Nick,

    Those yellow boxes look fantastic. Based upon the photo it looks like the individual trays just lift out. How good is the lid at keeping components from migrating from one tray to another when it is carried by the handle? Where did you get them from?

    Jim
  • nick bernardnick bernard Posts: 329
    edited 2005-04-05 19:50
    thats right jim, the trays do lift out, they also come in three sizes that i exchanged between the 4 boxes as needed. *turns boxes upside down and shakes vigorously*... everything stayed in place except for the 4-40 washers in the hardware kit.
    they are made by stanley and cost ten bucks at lowes, i think they're sold at walmart too. they are much better than the tackle boxes with adjustable dividers because nothing slides between partitions... they are definately worth a try.

    i think these are the ones i have
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    ZAG®
    Professional Organizer
    Item #: 101953 Model: 14325

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  • Guenther DaubachGuenther Daubach Posts: 1,321
    edited 2005-04-05 20:56
    Chris,

    in most cases, I'm using my stock of components for series production of PCBs, and I have prepared assembly instructions for the various PCBs that do not only contain the component values but also the drawer numbers. Therefore, I don't need to look them up in the sheet most of the time - I just pull out the drawers listed in the assembly instructions.

    Besides this, I was surprised how fast I learned which drawer number containes the most frequently required components, like the SX28, the 50 MHz resonators, the 100nF caps, etc.

    So, I'm happy with my "chaos storage".

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