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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-25 14:44
    That depends on what you want to isolate - AC, DC, inductive, resistive load
    voltage and current. I do AC resistive loads often - with an MOC3010 for
    120V or 3050 series for higher voltages. A 220 or 330 ohm resistor works
    well in series with a 5VDC input (pins 1 & 2). The triac output can be used
    in either direction to gate a larger triac or SCR, from anode to gate with
    another 180 or 220 ohm resistor in series with the gate. If the load side is
    also DC, there are scores of transistor output opto's to choose from. Try
    www.qtopto.com or www.fairchildsemi.com where there are lot's of ap notes
    showing opto outputs driving many types of switching devices, from discrete
    semi's to SSR's.

    Chris

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Alberto Zamora [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Cl_06UYWCS2oF4R2Q7nMba0qnqqQOPr9UlORUh8z2TQWnnwkzh009rMilWcRpCuc0YOrw6f8VJ7_MyYoADE]azestrada@y...[/url
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:19 AM
    > To: Grupo Basic Stamp
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    >
    > Hello:
    >
    > Does anyone have an output Circuit with optoisolation?
    >
    >
    > =====
    > Alberto Zamora Estrada.
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-25 15:33
    Sorry, I forgot specify that, the output has to work
    with digital logics levels.


    --- Chris Loiacono <chris@a...>
    escribi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-20 01:07
    The following Windows example starts Microsoft Excel with the
    worksheet MARCH.XLS and then performs the equivalent to
    pressing the PAGE DOWN key 20 times:




    SendKeys "{pgdn 20}"
    Shell "C:\EXCEL\MARCH.XLS", 1

    Search help for "sendkeys" for more info...


    with enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.





    ---- On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, JoeBruscella@c...
    (JoeBruscella@c...) wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > A friend and I are using the BASIC 2 stamp from Parallax
    along
    > with the stamp2.exe compiler (the DOS command line version)
    from
    > Parallax. We are making a program with Visual Basic that
    will, using
    > the "Shell" command, execute the stamp2.exe program and then
    run a
    > saved program that we made. The problem we are having is that
    there
    > is no way to have stamp2.exe execute the program
    automatically, you
    > must manually hit ALT+R.
    > Is there any way using VB or with the stamp2.exe so that it
    will
    > automatically execute the program without having to manually
    type
    > ALT+R? In essence, having the program "hit" ALT+R for you.
    >
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-24 13:35
    Hi John,

    How about an LM386 chip? I've used that with good results. Easy as falling
    off a log. Use the filter circuit shown in the FREQOUT manual pages.

    Instead of an ASCII schematic, try:

    http://www.warplink.com/user/kencan/lm386.htm

    or a few less parts:
    http://www.chipcenter.com/circuitcellar/askus/may00/Q4_00_15a.pdf

    Read the datasheet: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM386.pdf

    You can set the base gain, etc.

    Regards,

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Connect your Stamp to the Internet!
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/netporter.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: JOHN BELL [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=rGR7nTGRDSyRJk_XmxxBPXCa2jFNIuRz6zU334iNPpx8x1Ymc0LUWWQ5kXL4LcolZAC7ln5Er_82T8Z4nOUnyA]johnabell8@h...[/url
    > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:54 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    >
    > Does anyone know of a good way to amplify/drive a speaker from an
    > I/O pin?
    > Would it be an ic, transistor circuit, combination of these or something
    > else? It seems like better sound would be obtained with a 9V battery
    > also!?!? Thanks!
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-24 15:37
    Thankyou Al!

    Your continuing GREAT insight is again sincerely appreciated,

    John Bell

    >From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
    >Reply-To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:35:52 -0500
    >
    >Hi John,
    >
    >How about an LM386 chip? I've used that with good results. Easy as falling
    >off a log. Use the filter circuit shown in the FREQOUT manual pages.
    >
    >Instead of an ASCII schematic, try:
    >
    >http://www.warplink.com/user/kencan/lm386.htm
    >
    >or a few less parts:
    >http://www.chipcenter.com/circuitcellar/askus/may00/Q4_00_15a.pdf
    >
    >Read the datasheet: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM386.pdf
    >
    >You can set the base gain, etc.
    >
    >Regards,
    >
    >Al Williams
    >AWC
    >* Connect your Stamp to the Internet!
    >http://www.al-williams.com/awce/netporter.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    Original Message
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    > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:54 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    > >
    > >
    > > Does anyone know of a good way to amplify/drive a speaker from an
    > > I/O pin?
    > > Would it be an ic, transistor circuit, combination of these or
    >something
    > > else? It seems like better sound would be obtained with a 9V battery
    > > also!?!? Thanks!
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-16 13:11
    Suggest you use bs2p and comm directly with the ibuttons,

    Rgds, Chris

    Original Message
    From: walt <walt12414@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:31 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    > >i need a program clip that will be part of a door lock program
    > >the part i need is to read a i-button id# and check it with a list
    > of good
    > >id#s
    > >if it is good then triger an output pin low(?)low is stronger?
    > >the final program will be for 6 doors
    > >1 pin for each reader
    > >1 pin for each door lock
    > >1 pin for stat. led (would like to flash when door is unlocked)
    > >1 pin for door switch (is door open)
    >
    > thanks
    > walt@f...
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-26 01:25
    The PIC 16C55 (core micro of the BS1) has a per-pin current limit, as well as
    an overall current limit. You must follow the per-pin limit until such time
    you bump into the overall limit -- then you have to lower your per-pin
    current if you need more active.

    Please keep in mind that this is not a Stamp limitation -- this is a
    limitation due to the construction of the PIC 16C55.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax


    In a message dated 9/25/01 6:58:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
    johnabell8@h... writes:


    > It is my understanding that the BS1 cannot sink more than 50 ma tot. and
    > source more than 40 ma. My question is as follows: If the tot. pin ma
    > excedes these limits but all pins are not activated ex. tot. pin ma sourced
    > is 30 ma(the pins that would source more ma to bring the tot. ma > than 40
    > ma are not high) would this work? Again: if the tot. ma were 60 ma if
    > all
    > pins were activated this obviously would not work; however if just a few
    >




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-10-21 05:19
    I suggest you define your project first.
    How many alarm points will you monitor?
    Are these normally open or normally closed ckts? Do you want to know only
    that an event has occured at an alarm monitor point?
    Do you want know which monitor point generated the alarm?
    Do you want to know that the alarm detection points are operational before
    going to an alarm state?
    How are you going to display or sound an alarm condition?
    Will there be any time limit when an audible alarm can sound?
    Is there a requirement that this alarm circuit remain fully functional if
    AC power to the building is lost?
    This is not intended to be a complete list but one to get you started in the
    definition of your project.
    Good Luck
    Original Message
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    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:44 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    > Dear Stampers,
    >
    > I'm making an alarm system with a keypad and electronic lock using my
    > basic stamp, anybody have any ideas?
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > mhr_54
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-15 04:43
    Check out http://www.embeddedethernet.com/

    www.siteplayer.com



    John Leung


    Original Message
    From: jl yeoh <jay_el@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:27 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    >
    > hi,
    >
    > does anyone has any idea on interfacing the stamps microcontroller
    > to the TCP/IP network? thanks
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-15 05:32
    Check out the Parallax catalog for the Mondomini web server.It connect
    your stamp to the internet via your PC.
    Price $79
    I may have to get one of these!

    On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:27:51 -0800 (PST) jl yeoh <jay_el@a...>
    writes:
    >
    > hi,
    >
    > does anyone has any idea on interfacing the stamps microcontroller
    > to the TCP/IP network? thanks
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-15 06:05
    Have a look at http://www.al-williams.com/awce/netporter.htm

    Regards,

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm

    >
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    > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:28 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    >
    >
    > hi,
    >
    > does anyone has any idea on interfacing the stamps
    > microcontroller to the TCP/IP network? thanks
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-23 19:21
    The stamp actually prefers the TTL levels you mentioned. Also a simple series
    resistor (22K or so) and a diode clamp will let you interface REAL RS232
    signals to the STAMP on any I/O pin or any other device that can't handle
    RS232 like your transceiver. You may need to use an inverter (NOT gate) to
    get the logic correct.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-23 23:55
    Suggest that you look at page 3 of the INEX-1000 schematic for an approved
    interface to the stamp. The schematic is available at the Parallax web.
    Original Message
    From: <azeasi@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:21 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    > The stamp actually prefers the TTL levels you mentioned. Also a simple
    series
    > resistor (22K or so) and a diode clamp will let you interface REAL RS232
    > signals to the STAMP on any I/O pin or any other device that can't handle
    > RS232 like your transceiver. You may need to use an inverter (NOT gate) to
    > get the logic correct.
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-13 13:32
    Thank you very much for the reference, I really like the book.
    For those who might have trouble with the earlier reference, it dodn't work
    when i tried it.
    Goto the TI home page, and perform a search on "op amps for everyone", you
    should get a search list link to the book, like this reference below.
    Clicking on that link should fire up the Adobe Acrobat (PDF) reader plugin
    for your browser.

    http://www-s.ti.com/sc/psheets/slod006a/slod006a.pdf#xml=http://www-search.t
    i.com/search97cgi/s97_cgi?action=View&VdkVgwKey=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ds%2Eti%2E
    com%2Fsc%2Fpsheets%2Fslod006a%2Fslod006a%2Epdf&doctype=xml&Collection=TechDo
    cs&QueryZip=%3CACCRUE%3E%28%5B90%5D%28op+amps+for+everyone%29+%3CIN%3E+Keywo
    rds%2C+%5B85%5D%28op+amps+for+everyone%29+%3CIN%3E+Title%2C+%5B70%5D%28%28op
    +amps+for+everyone%29+%3CIN%3E+Body++%3COR%3E+%28op+amps+for+everyone%29+%3C
    IN%3E+Page%29%29&


    Original Message
    From: Tracy Allen [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=e2ha8A9-TSuPjNIY6EAgPJqe8bRa1-Cg6H2pnfZBlXS7ts5LfeeW7WCOJ_qn9-P3HHVmGTg400T42E-f2_M]tracy@e...[/url
    Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:25 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    I thought this announcement and link from TI might be of interest to
    people here. The download of the whole book is 765k.

    <<Texas Instruments' Op Amps for Everyone Design Reference Now
    Available Online :

    <http://focus.ti.com/docs/shared/workspace/campaign.jhtml?stk=3551867&
    cmp=1069&url=http://amplifier.ti.com/opampsforeveryone>

    With eighteen chapters covering everything from basic op amp design to
    filtering techniques and circuit board layout, you'll find diagrams,
    equations, examples, and reference material to aid the designs you're
    developing now....

    <<Download the complete book or just the chapters that interest you. You'll
    also find information about how to purchase a hard copy edition.

    -- regards,
    Tracy Allen
    electronically monitored ecosystems
    mailto:tracy@e...
    http://www.emesystems.com




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-13 16:27
    At 08:32 01/13/02, Earl Bollinger wrote:
    >Thank you very much for the reference, I really like the book.
    >For those who might have trouble with the earlier reference, it dodn't work
    >when i tried it.
    >Goto the TI home page, and perform a search on "op amps for everyone", you
    >should get a search list link to the book, like this reference below.
    >Clicking on that link should fire up the Adobe Acrobat (PDF) reader plugin
    >for your browser.
    >
    >http://www-s.ti.com/sc/psheets/slod006a/slod006a.pdf#xml=http://www-search.t
    >i.com/search97cgi/s97_cgi?action=View&VdkVgwKey=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ds%2Eti%2E
    >com%2Fsc%2Fpsheets%2Fslod006a%2Fslod006a%2Epdf&doctype=xml&Collection=TechDo
    >cs&QueryZip=%3CACCRUE%3E%28%5B90%5D%28op+amps+for+everyone%29+%3CIN%3E+Keywo
    >rds%2C+%5B85%5D%28op+amps+for+everyone%29+%3CIN%3E+Title%2C+%5B70%5D%28%28op
    >+amps+for+everyone%29+%3CIN%3E+Body++%3COR%3E+%28op+amps+for+everyone%29+%3C
    >IN%3E+Page%29%29&

    Just surf to http://amplifier.ti.com/opampsforeveryone and let the page
    redirect you.


    Jim H
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-14 16:40
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Chris Loiacono [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ETJ3BgLTiWMwMugJ0pfLkE6s4WvaRECZP7vwallsSv24KXFl_m14cRCx7utALno7YdJ_-GVxvDBACDC6]chris@m...[/url
    > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:14 AM
    > To: 'basicstamps@yahoogroups.com'
    > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    >
    > Very thoughtful, great book.
    > Thanks Tracy...
    > CL
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Tracy Allen [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=zro0u0uNQRyDZL57220DtVriHErt-hdgkyrF79bRQNz0CbjV9eT0J77-ine9rN4fyy6dXPSCb5j350pUNL8]tracy@e...[/url
    > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:25 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    > >
    > >
    > > I thought this announcement and link from TI might be of
    > interest to
    > > people here. The download of the whole book is 765k.
    > >
    > > <<Texas Instruments' Op Amps for Everyone Design Reference Now
    > > Available Online :
    > >
    > > <http://focus.ti.com/docs/shared/workspace/campaign.jhtml?stk=
    > 3551867&
    > cmp=1069&url=http://amplifier.ti.com/opampsforeveryone>
    >
    > With eighteen chapters covering everything from basic op amp design to
    > filtering techniques and circuit board layout, you'll find diagrams,
    > equations, examples, and reference material to aid the designs you're
    > developing now....
    >
    > <<Download the complete book or just the chapters that
    > interest you. You'll
    > also find information about how to purchase a hard copy edition.
    >
    > -- regards,
    > Tracy Allen
    > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > mailto:tracy@e...
    > http://www.emesystems.com
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-02-19 15:33
    It's really not tough -- a simple application of Ohm's Law. There are three
    values you need to know to do the calculation

    * Circuit voltage (if using a Stamp pin, this is 5 volts)
    * LED forward voltage (usually around 1.4 volts -- but can vary)
    * Current to run through the LED (most will light nicely between 5 mA and 10
    mA)

    A typical (sourcing) circuit works like this:

    [noparse][[/noparse]Stamp]---[noparse][[/noparse]LED]---[noparse][[/noparse]Resistor]---[noparse][[/noparse]Ground]

    This is a series circuit, so the current through the LED and the resistor
    will be the same. The voltages across each will add up to the circuit
    voltage (5 volts). Since the LED uses 1.4 volts, there will be 3.6 volts
    across the resistor. Now we can reorganize Ohm's Law (E=IR) so that it looks
    like this:

    R = E/I

    If we want 5 mA through the LED, R = 3.6 / 0.005 --> 720 ohms

    Since you probably won't find a 720 ohm resistor, use the closest "typical"
    value (680 ohms --> 5.3 mA) and make sure that you don't exceed any of the
    Stamps limits on current.

    Each Stamp pin has a limit on how much current it can source or sink, and
    groups of pins (OutL or OutH) have total limits as well. Then, there's the
    limit that the Stamp voltage regulator can supply. Low current LEDs are
    becoming more and more popular, so it's getting easier to light a lot of LEDs
    with just the Stamp.

    HTH.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Parallax


    In a message dated 2/19/02 9:21:11 AM Central Standard Time, ygg@g...
    writes:


    > I would like to be able to figure out what kind of a resister I need to
    > get
    > the voltage and mA that I want. I am doing the first project where I am
    > going to flash the LED. I have read about it and I pretty much know what I
    > need and what size resistor now but I don't understand how I would be able
    > to
    > figure that out mathematically. I would like to be able to get a componant
    > and
    > read the amount of voltage and mA that it would need and then figure out
    > what
    > size resistors I would need to supply that. Is there a math formula for
    > that
    >




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-04 01:58
    The zero terminates the string. If you continue to read past it, you will
    run into other messages. The three is a custom character, defined earlier in
    the program

    -- Jon Williams



    In a message dated 3/3/02 7:55:56 PM Central Standard Time,
    sjohns10@h... writes:


    > I am using the LCDDEMO2.BS2 demo program, and I made my own program
    > using the same tecniques. Instead of just "THE BASIC STAMP IS VERY
    > COOL" message, I have several different messages(around twenty)
    > that I display at different times depending on a keypad input.
    > Everything is going well, but when the stamp displays certain
    > messages, it mixes them with other ones. I don't quite know how to
    > use the "data" function. In the demo program,
    >
    > Msg1 DATA "THE BASIC STAMP",0 ' line 1 message
    >
    > Msg2 DATA "IS VERY COOL! ",3,0 ' revealed message
    >
    > is used, and I don't understand what the ",0" and ",3,0" do. Is
    >




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-04 02:03
    In addition to Jon's advice, let me throw in this idea:

    Is it possible you are not clearing the LCD between messages.

    So if you display:

    123456

    And then try to move the cursor to home and print Hi, you'll get

    Hi3456

    Maybe?

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Floating point A/D
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: sethjaredjeromiejohnson [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=DbHqpod1p5W8DzZxohf98ca2qCwmZpcYoXT1kzzPxPOoxB4I9HolmQe486Hg-dHpdApz94_hKUH3Z8dcfA]sjohns10@h...[/url
    > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:55 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    >
    > I am using the LCDDEMO2.BS2 demo program, and I made my own program
    > using the same tecniques. Instead of just "THE BASIC STAMP IS VERY
    > COOL" message, I have several different messages(around twenty)
    > that I display at different times depending on a keypad input.
    > Everything is going well, but when the stamp displays certain
    > messages, it mixes them with other ones. I don't quite know how to
    > use the "data" function. In the demo program,
    >
    > Msg1 DATA "THE BASIC STAMP",0 ' line 1 message
    >
    > Msg2 DATA "IS VERY COOL! ",3,0 ' revealed message
    >
    > is used, and I don't understand what the ",0" and ",3,0" do. Is
    > there a certain way to number this? Thank you.
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-25 19:05
    Hello,

    The resistor in question is a potentiometer, and is used to supply a voltage
    from 0V to the +Ref voltage for
    Analog to Digital Conversion. Read the information above the circuit diagram
    and the data sheets for the ADC
    Chip. The arrow indicates the center arm of the potentiometer and is connected
    to the input pin of the ADC Chip
    pin # unknown, but can be found on the data sheets for this chip.

    Have Fun !!
    Dale Fleischmann

    SX-2 commander wrote:

    > It is real possible that it is a variable resistor, because some components
    > have morely symbols. I'm 90% sure it is.
    >
    > In some cases, p.e. in my component catalogue, only the hightest value in
    > indicated.
    >
    > I think it has the function to regulate the input voltage.
    >
    > Yes, I know about variable resistors, but I'm not sure that is the case
    > here. Look at
    > http://www.lennard.net.nz/electronics/ad.html
    > The arrow in question appears to be connected to the A-D converter chip, but
    > there is no pin identification associated with the IC. If it were meant to
    > indicate a variable resistor, I would expect the arrow to pass through the
    > resistor and not show an apparent physical connection to another device. To
    > me, the drawing seems to indicate a standard resistor, as it doesn't
    > indicate a high-low range for the resistor.
    > Don
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "SX-2 commander" <sx2_commander@h...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:11 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A to D conversion...
    >
    > >
    > >An arrow in an resistor means it is a variable resistor. Physical, it is
    > >normally the middle pin.
    > >
    > > >From: "Don" <renegade.engineer@v...>
    > > >Reply-To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A to D conversion...
    > > >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:40:42 -0700
    > > >
    > > > Ben, in the diagram on that link, what is the significance of the
    > > >arrow
    > > >from the TLC548CP pointing at the 47k resistor?
    > > >Don
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > >From: "Ben Lennard" <postmaster@s...>
    > > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > >Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:41 AM
    > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A to D conversion...
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > Hey folks,
    > > > >
    > > > > Discovered today how easy A to D conversion can be. This is going to
    > > >help
    > > >a
    > > > > lot in designing the Data Logger I'm thinking about.
    > > > > See the url below for a demo circuit and code. Click on A to D
    > > >Converter.
    > > > >
    > > > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/electronics/electronics.html
    > > > >
    > > > > cheers,
    > > > >
    > > > > Ben, Wellington, New Zealand.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    > > > > Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
    > > > >
    > > > > Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    > > > >
    > > > > Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    > > > > Mb: +64 21 536 627
    > > > > 87 Spencer Street
    > > > > Crofton Downs
    > > > > Wellington
    > > > > New Zealand
    > > > >
    > > > > "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass
    > > >is
    > > > > half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to
    > > >be."
    > > > >
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    > > > > with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn
    > that
    > > > > there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > >From: Leroy Hall <leroy@f...>
    > > > > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > > > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Any Power Engineers Lurking?
    > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 5:52 AM
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > > I think I understand your situation a little better than what was
    > > > > > before. I assumed you were using commercial equipment, a mistake on
    > my
    > > > > > part. Your statement, "I am trying to assess the net effect on the
    > > > > > primary side of the coupling transformer, i.e.: as long as the
    > > >rectifier
    > > > > > is fairly well balanced, there should be no DC reflected back,
    > right?"
    > > > > > is new to me. I have heard of power reflected in an RF radio type
    > > > > > situation, we call it SWR. But I have not heard of DC being
    > reflected
    > > > > > back across the winding of a x-former. MAybe we could discuss the
    > > > > > situation off list. if you like. Sounds interesting at the very
    > > > > > least.. I consider myself more a controls engineer, in that I have
    > > > > > expertise in PLC.s but power control is also very interesting
    > although
    > > > > > my experience there is limited more to the theoretical rather than
    > the
    > > > > > practical side. Good luck..
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Leroy
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" wrote:
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> I have an AC Phase-angle power controller design that I am trying
    > to
    > > >fit to
    > > > > >> a customer's application.
    > > > > >> I mention it here because there are experts here in every field, it
    > > >seems,
    > > > > >> although the part of it I'm working on is basically an AC Power EE
    > > >problem:
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> The controller fires gates on SCR/Diode pairs on each leg of a
    > three
    > > >phase
    > > > > >> load. The zero-crossing timing is derived optically from the AC
    > line,
    > > >and
    > > > > >> the command input to the PIC sets the gate delay, or phase angle to
    > > >fire at.
    > > > > >> It was intended for resistive loads, where the relationship between
    > > >voltage
    > > > > >> and current is quite simple.
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> I need to use it to gate the SCR's into a transformer primary,
    > which
    > > >is
    > > >a
    > > > > >> simple 3-wire delta. The secondary is through a three-phase bridge
    > > >rectifier
    > > > > >> to a wye connected resistive load. You might envision it feeding
    > the
    > > > > >> resistive equivalent of a 3-phase AC motor stator, but ignore the
    > > >concept of
    > > > > >> motion.
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> I am trying to assess the net effect on the primary side of the
    > > >coupling
    > > > > >> transformer, ie: as long as the rectifier is fairly well balanced,
    > > >there
    > > > > >> should be no DC reflected back, right?
    > > > > >> Will the current at the transformer primary lag, and will that
    > effect
    > > >my
    > > > > >> zero-cross detect timing, since it is done by LED's? If so, the
    > > >controller
    > > > > >> will fire past the zero-crossings and make some spectacular
    > > >fireworks,
    > > >since
    > > > > >> it deals with hundreds of Volts at hundreds of Amps.
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> Please let me know if anyone has experience with this sort of thing
    > > >that
    > > > > >> would like to discuss it either on or off-list.
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> Chris
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-26 05:52
    Hi,

    "The circuit simply reads the voltage at the chip's input (Provided by the
    47k variable resistor), " right
    "voltage at the chip's input (Provided by the 47k variable resistor)," now look
    at the data sheet for the ADC
    chip. The Data Sheet can be found by doing a google search for TLC548, look at
    the first link it is in PDF
    format. The input pin is pin 2. When looking for information read the whole
    message not just the parts you think
    are important, I did say look at the data sheet for the ADC chip. There is a
    lot of "I think it is ... or It
    might be this ... in this E-Mail", but no one has mentioned looking up the
    information about the chip, a lot of
    assuming here and you know what that means. Reread my message and you will see
    that I did mention the data
    sheet. I did not make an assumption about what the arrow in the schematic was,
    I looked closer at the problem.

    Have Fun !!
    Dale Fleischmann

    aussiecol39 wrote:

    > If you look at the text on the page it says "The circuit simply reads
    > the voltage at the chip's input (Provided by the 47k variable
    > resistor), "
    >
    > Cheers
    > Col
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., "SX-2 commander" <sx2_commander@h...> wrote:
    > > It is real possible that it is a variable resistor, because some
    > components
    > > have morely symbols. I'm 90% sure it is.
    > >
    > > In some cases, p.e. in my component catalogue, only the hightest
    > value in
    > > indicated.
    > >
    > > I think it has the function to regulate the input voltage.
    > >
    > > Yes, I know about variable resistors, but I'm not sure that is the
    > case
    > > here. Look at
    > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/electronics/ad.html
    > > The arrow in question appears to be connected to the A-D converter
    > chip, but
    > > there is no pin identification associated with the IC. If it were
    > meant to
    > > indicate a variable resistor, I would expect the arrow to pass
    > through the
    > > resistor and not show an apparent physical connection to another
    > device. To
    > > me, the drawing seems to indicate a standard resistor, as it doesn't
    > > indicate a high-low range for the resistor.
    > > Don
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "SX-2 commander" <sx2_commander@h...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:11 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A to D conversion...
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > >An arrow in an resistor means it is a variable resistor. Physical,
    > it is
    > > >normally the middle pin.
    > > >
    > > > >From: "Don" <renegade.engineer@v...>
    > > > >Reply-To: basicstamps@y...
    > > > >To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > > > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A to D conversion...
    > > > >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:40:42 -0700
    > > > >
    > > > > Ben, in the diagram on that link, what is the significance
    > of the
    > > > >arrow
    > > > >from the TLC548CP pointing at the 47k resistor?
    > > > >Don
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > >From: "Ben Lennard" <postmaster@s...>
    > > > >To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > > > >Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:41 AM
    > > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A to D conversion...
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > > Hey folks,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Discovered today how easy A to D conversion can be. This is
    > going to
    > > > >help
    > > > >a
    > > > > > lot in designing the Data Logger I'm thinking about.
    > > > > > See the url below for a demo circuit and code. Click on A to
    > D
    > > > >Converter.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/electronics/electronics.html
    > > > > >
    > > > > > cheers,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Ben, Wellington, New Zealand.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    > > > > > Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    > > > > > Mb: +64 21 536 627
    > > > > > 87 Spencer Street
    > > > > > Crofton Downs
    > > > > > Wellington
    > > > > > New Zealand
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist,
    > the glass
    > > > >is
    > > > > > half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it
    > needs to
    > > > >be."
    > > > > >
    > > > > > No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email,
    > although the
    > > > > > Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you!
    > Those of
    > > you
    > > > > > with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to
    > learn
    > > that
    > > > > > there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning
    > backwards.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > >From: Leroy Hall <leroy@f...>
    > > > > > >To: basicstamps@y...
    > > > > > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Any Power Engineers Lurking?
    > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 5:52 AM
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > I think I understand your situation a little better than
    > what was
    > > > > > > before. I assumed you were using commercial equipment, a
    > mistake on
    > > my
    > > > > > > part. Your statement, "I am trying to assess the net
    > effect on the
    > > > > > > primary side of the coupling transformer, i.e.: as long as
    > the
    > > > >rectifier
    > > > > > > is fairly well balanced, there should be no DC reflected
    > back,
    > > right?"
    > > > > > > is new to me. I have heard of power reflected in an RF
    > radio type
    > > > > > > situation, we call it SWR. But I have not heard of DC being
    > > reflected
    > > > > > > back across the winding of a x-former. MAybe we could
    > discuss the
    > > > > > > situation off list. if you like. Sounds interesting at
    > the very
    > > > > > > least.. I consider myself more a controls engineer, in
    > that I have
    > > > > > > expertise in PLC.s but power control is also very
    > interesting
    > > although
    > > > > > > my experience there is limited more to the theoretical
    > rather than
    > > the
    > > > > > > practical side. Good luck..
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Leroy
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" wrote:
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> I have an AC Phase-angle power controller design that I am
    > trying
    > > to
    > > > >fit to
    > > > > > >> a customer's application.
    > > > > > >> I mention it here because there are experts here in every
    > field, it
    > > > >seems,
    > > > > > >> although the part of it I'm working on is basically an AC
    > Power EE
    > > > >problem:
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> The controller fires gates on SCR/Diode pairs on each leg
    > of a
    > > three
    > > > >phase
    > > > > > >> load. The zero-crossing timing is derived optically from
    > the AC
    > > line,
    > > > >and
    > > > > > >> the command input to the PIC sets the gate delay, or phase
    > angle to
    > > > >fire at.
    > > > > > >> It was intended for resistive loads, where the
    > relationship between
    > > > >voltage
    > > > > > >> and current is quite simple.
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> I need to use it to gate the SCR's into a transformer
    > primary,
    > > which
    > > > >is
    > > > >a
    > > > > > >> simple 3-wire delta. The secondary is through a three-
    > phase bridge
    > > > >rectifier
    > > > > > >> to a wye connected resistive load. You might envision it
    > feeding
    > > the
    > > > > > >> resistive equivalent of a 3-phase AC motor stator, but
    > ignore the
    > > > >concept of
    > > > > > >> motion.
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> I am trying to assess the net effect on the primary side
    > of the
    > > > >coupling
    > > > > > >> transformer, ie: as long as the rectifier is fairly well
    > balanced,
    > > > >there
    > > > > > >> should be no DC reflected back, right?
    > > > > > >> Will the current at the transformer primary lag, and will
    > that
    > > effect
    > > > >my
    > > > > > >> zero-cross detect timing, since it is done by LED's? If
    > so, the
    > > > >controller
    > > > > > >> will fire past the zero-crossings and make some spectacular
    > > > >fireworks,
    > > > >since
    > > > > > >> it deals with hundreds of Volts at hundreds of Amps.
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> Please let me know if anyone has experience with this sort
    > of thing
    > > > >that
    > > > > > >> would like to discuss it either on or off-list.
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> Chris
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-11 11:58
    One thing I've dreamed about is a robotic maid... :-)

    Perhaps starting with one that will, when it's "GO" button is pressed, go
    around the house, create a map of the house and remember it for next time,
    and then vacuum the place. Once finished, or if it needs to while part way
    through, automatically go back to it's base and recharge it's self.

    Cheers,

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    > From: "uploadjoe" <jeremy@u...>
    > Reply-To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:29:14 -0000
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > I have got some basic newbie questions. I am looking to build my
    > first robot.My basic plan is to get a Stamp and learn how to program
    > it first. Then I will go ahead and purchase either the LynxMotion (
    > http://www.lynxmotion.com/ ) Quadrapod 2 or Hexapod 2 kit. Then once
    > I have all that working progress on to adding sensors and such, but I
    > am attempting to plan things out in advance.
    >
    > My first decision is which Stamp to buy. I have about 5 years of
    > Experience in web script programming (perl, vb script, php). I was
    > thinking of trying the new Javelin stamp, but I am not sure. I do
    > know I am interested in trying to do some fairly complicated things
    > (at least complicated to me). Any thoughts? ( see below for my list
    > of things I would like to accomplish )
    >
    > Any thoughts on either the hexapod or the quadrapod?
    >
    > I am interested in working on a robot that's more or less a
    > domestic
    > bot that interacts with its environment. Exactly how I am not
    > positive, but I have a few goals some easier then others.
    >
    > Goals:
    > Walking
    > Object avoidance
    > Monitor battery and recharge via solar (or another method)
    > Communication between bot and PC to keep logs
    >
    > Of course when I go to make a list here I forget most of them I need
    > to make a proper list. Is anybody out there trying to create a fairly
    > independent robot of this general size? If so I would be interested
    > in hearing about it.
    >
    > Also I have some soldering and some electrical experience, but no
    > electronics experience can you recommend any good books?
    >
    > Lastly anyone know were to get good soldering supplies like a decent
    > (something good , but not top of the line) iron?
    >
    > I apologize for the long post, but I thank you in advance for your
    > help.
    >
    > Jeremy
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-11 14:04
    "> My first decision is which Stamp to buy.

    I don't know Java, so can't say anything about the Javelin..."

    This situation could preclude the amount of help you could get early on. I
    can't say how many
    on this group do or don't know Java, but there are many who are REAL good
    with Pbasic's more
    complex programming and fixing the quirks.

    Don
    Original Message
    From: "Trygve Henriksen" <trygve.henriksen@v...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:24 AM
    Subject: SV: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    > Greetings!
    >
    > > I have got some basic newbie questions. I am looking to build my
    > > first robot.My basic plan is to get a Stamp and learn how to program
    > > it first. Then I will go ahead and purchase either the LynxMotion (
    > > http://www.lynxmotion.com/ ) Quadrapod 2 or Hexapod 2 kit. Then once
    > > I have all that working progress on to adding sensors and such, but I
    > > am attempting to plan things out in advance.
    >
    > Good thinking, planning things out.
    > There's too many who just jumps into it and ends up with all the wrong
    > tools...
    >
    > > My first decision is which Stamp to buy.
    >
    > I don't know Java, so can't say anything about the Javelin...
    > Other than that...
    > The BS1 will be too limited. (512Bytes EEPROM program storage and 8 IO
    > pins.)
    > The BS2 range; the BS2 has 2KB EEPROM program storage.
    > The others have 8 x 2KB and an additional 64Bytes 'scratchpad' RAM except
    > the BS2p...
    > The BS2p have 8 x 2KB and the possibility to READ and WRITE to other
    EEPROM
    > areas that the current executing program is running in, 128Bytes
    > 'scratchpad' RAM and both I2C and 1-Wire bus support.
    > The BS2 series have 16 IO pins except the BS2p which comes in either a
    24pin
    > package with 16 IO pins, or a 40pin package with 32 IO pins.
    > As for speed, the BS1 does about 2000 instructions/s, the BS2 does 4000(I
    > think) and the BS2p does 12000 on a good day.
    > (I'd go for the BS2p because of the flexibility)
    >
    > The price difference is so small that it doesn't matter.
    > (They're CHEAP compared to the bots you're considering)
    >
    > Another option, if you want Basic, but need more power, is the Basic tiger
    > from
    > http://www.wilke-technology.com/
    > They're not much more expensive than the BS2, but have a lot more
    'oomph'...
    > (Development tools may be more costly, though)
    >
    >
    > > Monitor battery and recharge via solar (or another method)
    > Dallas has both AD converters and battery monitors in their 1-wire range.
    > (1-wire networks uses only one pin, and can address units using unique
    64bit
    > serial numbers.)
    >
    > There's also temperature sensors, switches, digital
    Potentiometers(100KOhm),
    > NV-RAM and other goodies.
    > (Including a Java powered iButton)
    >
    > > Communication between bot and PC to keep logs
    >
    > Maybe one of the RF kits that Parallax sells...
    >
    > :-)
    > Trygve
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-11 14:37
    first stamp to buy really depends on how many i/o pins you need, how much
    room for program, how much room for data, and what kind of speed you will
    need.

    bs1 has 8 i/o real small program
    bs2 has 16 i/o larger program faster
    bs2i industrial temp range of above
    bs2e has 16 i/o more ram and eeprom space
    bs2sx faster version of above stamp
    bsp24 20% faster than above and many more special instructions
    bsp40 same as above except 32 i/o pins

    norm
    the web site www.parallax.com has all the info you need and its easy to
    navigate.



    >From: "Don" <renegade.engineer@v...>
    >Reply-To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:04:02 -0700
    >
    >"> My first decision is which Stamp to buy.
    >
    >I don't know Java, so can't say anything about the Javelin..."
    >
    >This situation could preclude the amount of help you could get early on. I
    >can't say how many
    >on this group do or don't know Java, but there are many who are REAL good
    >with Pbasic's more
    >complex programming and fixing the quirks.
    >
    >Don
    >
    Original Message
    >From: "Trygve Henriksen" <trygve.henriksen@v...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:24 AM
    >Subject: SV: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)
    >
    >
    > > Greetings!
    > >
    > > > I have got some basic newbie questions. I am looking to build my
    > > > first robot.My basic plan is to get a Stamp and learn how to program
    > > > it first. Then I will go ahead and purchase either the LynxMotion (
    > > > http://www.lynxmotion.com/ ) Quadrapod 2 or Hexapod 2 kit. Then once
    > > > I have all that working progress on to adding sensors and such, but I
    > > > am attempting to plan things out in advance.
    > >
    > > Good thinking, planning things out.
    > > There's too many who just jumps into it and ends up with all the wrong
    > > tools...
    > >
    > > > My first decision is which Stamp to buy.
    > >
    > > I don't know Java, so can't say anything about the Javelin...
    > > Other than that...
    > > The BS1 will be too limited. (512Bytes EEPROM program storage and 8 IO
    > > pins.)
    > > The BS2 range; the BS2 has 2KB EEPROM program storage.
    > > The others have 8 x 2KB and an additional 64Bytes 'scratchpad' RAM
    >except
    > > the BS2p...
    > > The BS2p have 8 x 2KB and the possibility to READ and WRITE to other
    >EEPROM
    > > areas that the current executing program is running in, 128Bytes
    > > 'scratchpad' RAM and both I2C and 1-Wire bus support.
    > > The BS2 series have 16 IO pins except the BS2p which comes in either a
    >24pin
    > > package with 16 IO pins, or a 40pin package with 32 IO pins.
    > > As for speed, the BS1 does about 2000 instructions/s, the BS2 does
    >4000(I
    > > think) and the BS2p does 12000 on a good day.
    > > (I'd go for the BS2p because of the flexibility)
    > >
    > > The price difference is so small that it doesn't matter.
    > > (They're CHEAP compared to the bots you're considering)
    > >
    > > Another option, if you want Basic, but need more power, is the Basic
    >tiger
    > > from
    > > http://www.wilke-technology.com/
    > > They're not much more expensive than the BS2, but have a lot more
    >'oomph'...
    > > (Development tools may be more costly, though)
    > >
    > >
    > > > Monitor battery and recharge via solar (or another method)
    > > Dallas has both AD converters and battery monitors in their 1-wire
    >range.
    > > (1-wire networks uses only one pin, and can address units using unique
    >64bit
    > > serial numbers.)
    > >
    > > There's also temperature sensors, switches, digital
    >Potentiometers(100KOhm),
    > > NV-RAM and other goodies.
    > > (Including a Java powered iButton)
    > >
    > > > Communication between bot and PC to keep logs
    > >
    > > Maybe one of the RF kits that Parallax sells...
    > >
    > > :-)
    > > Trygve
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-11 14:47
    If you can afford it, I HIGHLY recommend going with BS2p24 Professional
    Starter Kit. I'm working with a BS2p24 right now and the extra flexibility
    is really nice. The advantage of getting a starter kit is that it's great
    to just do some of the experiments to become familiar with Pbasic and the
    various interactions the stamp is capable of. I bet many of the experiments
    in the kit would later apply to things you might do with a bot.
    Don
    Original Message
    From: "uploadjoe" <jeremy@u...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:29 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] (unknown)


    > Hello,
    >
    > I have got some basic newbie questions. I am looking to build my
    > first robot.My basic plan is to get a Stamp and learn how to program
    > it first. Then I will go ahead and purchase either the LynxMotion (
    > http://www.lynxmotion.com/ ) Quadrapod 2 or Hexapod 2 kit. Then once
    > I have all that working progress on to adding sensors and such, but I
    > am attempting to plan things out in advance.
    >
    > My first decision is which Stamp to buy. I have about 5 years of
    > Experience in web script programming (perl, vb script, php). I was
    > thinking of trying the new Javelin stamp, but I am not sure. I do
    > know I am interested in trying to do some fairly complicated things
    > (at least complicated to me). Any thoughts? ( see below for my list
    > of things I would like to accomplish )
    >
    > Any thoughts on either the hexapod or the quadrapod?
    >
    > I am interested in working on a robot that's more or less a
    > domestic
    > bot that interacts with its environment. Exactly how I am not
    > positive, but I have a few goals some easier then others.
    >
    > Goals:
    > Walking
    > Object avoidance
    > Monitor battery and recharge via solar (or another method)
    > Communication between bot and PC to keep logs
    >
    > Of course when I go to make a list here I forget most of them I need
    > to make a proper list. Is anybody out there trying to create a fairly
    > independent robot of this general size? If so I would be interested
    > in hearing about it.
    >
    > Also I have some soldering and some electrical experience, but no
    > electronics experience can you recommend any good books?
    >
    > Lastly anyone know were to get good soldering supplies like a decent
    > (something good , but not top of the line) iron?
    >
    > I apologize for the long post, but I thank you in advance for your
    > help.
    >
    > Jeremy
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-11 14:57
    Hi uploadjoe. I am pretty much in the same boat as you. My first piece of
    advice would be for you to go pick up a Nuts 'n' Volts magazine. There are some
    good advertisements for electronics in there, as well as articles specific to
    the stamp.
    My first stamp was the BS2. I also have a board of education. Get this kit
    because it comes with a manual that has lots of easy exercises for people like
    us. Also, download and go through all of the Parallax free .pdf manuals.
    Check out this book: Robot Building for Beginners (ISBN: 1893115445). It has a
    really good overview of electronics for mechanical minded people (I'm a
    mechanical engineer by schooling). It also lists suppliers of electronic
    components.
    I did purchase the Javelin stamp too. My decision here was that I am not a very
    good pBasic guy (I've only been doing this for about 6 months now) and I already
    know C/C++. The Javelin is very powerful, so it should be able to do pretty
    much anything you need it to.
    Hope this helps.
    -- jupe
    uploadjoe <jeremy@u...> wrote: Hello,

    I have got some basic newbie questions. I am looking to build my
    first robot.My basic plan is to get a Stamp and learn how to program
    it first. Then I will go ahead and purchase either the LynxMotion (
    http://www.lynxmotion.com/ ) Quadrapod 2 or Hexapod 2 kit. Then once
    I have all that working progress on to adding sensors and such, but I
    am attempting to plan things out in advance.

    My first decision is which Stamp to buy. I have about 5 years of
    Experience in web script programming (perl, vb script, php). I was
    thinking of trying the new Javelin stamp, but I am not sure. I do
    know I am interested in trying to do some fairly complicated things
    (at least complicated to me). Any thoughts? ( see below for my list
    of things I would like to accomplish )

    Any thoughts on either the hexapod or the quadrapod?

    I am interested in working on a robot that's more or less a
    domestic
    bot that interacts with its environment. Exactly how I am not
    positive, but I have a few goals some easier then others.

    Goals:
    Walking
    Object avoidance
    Monitor battery and recharge via solar (or another method)
    Communication between bot and PC to keep logs

    Of course when I go to make a list here I forget most of them I need
    to make a proper list. Is anybody out there trying to create a fairly
    independent robot of this general size? If so I would be interested
    in hearing about it.

    Also I have some soldering and some electrical experience, but no
    electronics experience can you recommend any good books?

    Lastly anyone know were to get good soldering supplies like a decent
    (something good , but not top of the line) iron?

    I apologize for the long post, but I thank you in advance for your
    help.

    Jeremy



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-11 15:10
    I built an all aluminum hexapod running 2 stamps on board and I am now
    installing a sonic ranger, if anyone wants to see some pics or mpeg of my
    creation e-mail me at skip.webb@h...

    Original Message
    From: Nathan Mars [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=o_rgOvuyzPH8GO8IO7z96cGNoCvalg3P5ykHil_NpnV6W1lAlQ1jKeHj7g7S8Ib0VL62QsoOX1Lu]jupemars@y...[/url
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    Hi uploadjoe. I am pretty much in the same boat as you. My first piece of
    advice would be for you to go pick up a Nuts 'n' Volts magazine. There are
    some good advertisements for electronics in there, as well as articles
    specific to the stamp.
    My first stamp was the BS2. I also have a board of education. Get this kit
    because it comes with a manual that has lots of easy exercises for people
    like us. Also, download and go through all of the Parallax free .pdf
    manuals.
    Check out this book: Robot Building for Beginners (ISBN: 1893115445). It
    has a really good overview of electronics for mechanical minded people (I'm
    a mechanical engineer by schooling). It also lists suppliers of electronic
    components.
    I did purchase the Javelin stamp too. My decision here was that I am not a
    very good pBasic guy (I've only been doing this for about 6 months now) and
    I already know C/C++. The Javelin is very powerful, so it should be able to
    do pretty much anything you need it to.
    Hope this helps.
    -- jupe
    uploadjoe <jeremy@u...> wrote: Hello,

    I have got some basic newbie questions. I am looking to build my
    first robot.My basic plan is to get a Stamp and learn how to program
    it first. Then I will go ahead and purchase either the LynxMotion (
    http://www.lynxmotion.com/ ) Quadrapod 2 or Hexapod 2 kit. Then once
    I have all that working progress on to adding sensors and such, but I
    am attempting to plan things out in advance.

    My first decision is which Stamp to buy. I have about 5 years of
    Experience in web script programming (perl, vb script, php). I was
    thinking of trying the new Javelin stamp, but I am not sure. I do
    know I am interested in trying to do some fairly complicated things
    (at least complicated to me). Any thoughts? ( see below for my list
    of things I would like to accomplish )

    Any thoughts on either the hexapod or the quadrapod?

    I am interested in working on a robot that's more or less a
    domestic
    bot that interacts with its environment. Exactly how I am not
    positive, but I have a few goals some easier then others.

    Goals:
    Walking
    Object avoidance
    Monitor battery and recharge via solar (or another method)
    Communication between bot and PC to keep logs

    Of course when I go to make a list here I forget most of them I need
    to make a proper list. Is anybody out there trying to create a fairly
    independent robot of this general size? If so I would be interested
    in hearing about it.

    Also I have some soldering and some electrical experience, but no
    electronics experience can you recommend any good books?

    Lastly anyone know were to get good soldering supplies like a decent
    (something good , but not top of the line) iron?

    I apologize for the long post, but I thank you in advance for your
    help.

    Jeremy



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-12 23:17
    Everybody thanks for your help! I think I am going to go with the
    BS2p24 since I don't know java... and I am sure I will needs lots
    of advice... maybe in the future I will upgrade since the hardware
    appears to be interchangeable. I will probably get the stamp and
    a couple of sensors and start messing around with them in the
    next few months.

    Nathan, thanks I will check out Nuts and Volts and I will look for
    that book.

    Thanks again.. I am sure I will chime in now and then with so newbie
    questions as I try to grasp all of this.

    Thanks,
    Jeremy
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-02-25 21:14
    Ed and All,

    The 2003 Catalog has been shipping with orders since the last week of
    January (assuming that the box was large enough to accept the size of
    the catalog).

    If you registered to receive the catalog individually (online, by email
    or telephone), then you should receive the 2003 Catalog in 1-3 weeks via
    USPS.

    Parallax thanks you for your patience!

    Sincerely,

    Erik Wood
    ewood@p...
    Parallax, Inc.
    599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
    Rocklin, CA 95765
    (916) 624-8333
    www.parallax.com


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    Has anyone received the 2003 catalog yet from Parallax? I thought
    they were supposed to ship at the end of January...


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-17 15:28
    Please set the date on your computer. It makes organizing postings by date
    impossible.
    Mike


    At 11:28 PM 6/27/2003 -0700, you wrote:
    >Ok I thought this would work but something is wrong with the number
    >behind the decimal point (v2). When I do this calculation on my
    >calculator with adcbits = 255 I get 4.96. Is there something I'm doing
    >the basic stamp doesn't support? Like maybe something wrong with the
    >numbers?
    >CALC_VOLTS: 'subroutine named CALC_VOLTS
    >v = 124*adcbits/6375
    >v2 = 124*adcbits//6375
    >return
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