.... Instead, I'm looking for something that would elicit an "I can't do that with my favorite chip..." kind of response. It seems to me that the most impressive thing we can convey visually is the sheer variety of possibilities, and the ease with which those possibilities can be achieved. This doesn't mean "put everything we can imagine on a giant demo board," rather "make a Grove-like board with a representative set of daughter boards that can be arbitrarily plugged in to any slot." Make sure the daughter boards include analog and digital functions, USB (without a TTL serial interface chip), etc.
Ah, ok, that's likely to be the Smart Pin Cells that will elicit the "I can't do that with my favorite chip..."..
and those pin cells can also largely self-test, reducing the need for daughter boards.
eg any of these are way above the generic MCU ability...
~ 30 UARTS (!) should be possible, and those can be compile switched to be self testing (loop back echo, or ring-connect)
~ 60 Servo out should be possible. Unsure about self-tests there, maybe the streamer can logic-probe capture 32 pins, 1000 samples per period or similar ?
~ 60 PWM out, tho servo gives users the idea...
~ 15 Axis Stepper Motor Driver - MicroStep Sine/Cosine DAC + QuadEncoder readback - I think that can self-test by Quad Encode map to DAC pins.
~ 60 Servo In, capture of Period
~ 30 Reciprocal Frequency Counters, very wide dynamic range, 8 decimal digits / second precision.
~ 30 high precision % Duty Cycle captures
I would like to purchase one of these boards or at least the chip. Prefer the most minimal configuration on board possible to so as to not be limited by unneeded "stuff" on the board. Just power, clock, header for pins to whatever. Thanks to all for one 7734 of a lot of hard work!
.... Instead, I'm looking for something that would elicit an "I can't do that with my favorite chip..." kind of response. It seems to me that the most impressive thing we can convey visually is the sheer variety of possibilities, and the ease with which those possibilities can be achieved. This doesn't mean "put everything we can imagine on a giant demo board," rather "make a Grove-like board with a representative set of daughter boards that can be arbitrarily plugged in to any slot." Make sure the daughter boards include analog and digital functions, USB (without a TTL serial interface chip), etc.
Ah, ok, that's likely to be the Smart Pin Cells that will elicit the "I can't do that with my favorite chip..."..
and those pin cells can also largely self-test, reducing the need for daughter boards.
eg any of these are way above the generic MCU ability...
~ 30 UARTS (!) should be possible, and those can be compile switched to be self testing (loop back echo, or ring-connect)
~ 60 Servo out should be possible. Unsure about self-tests there, maybe the streamer can logic-probe capture 32 pins, 1000 samples per period or similar ?
~ 60 PWM out, tho servo gives users the idea...
~ 15 Axis Stepper Motor Driver - MicroStep Sine/Cosine DAC + QuadEncoder readback - I think that can self-test by Quad Encode map to DAC pins.
~ 60 Servo In, capture of Period
~ 30 Reciprocal Frequency Counters, very wide dynamic range, 8 decimal digits / second precision.
~ 30 high precision % Duty Cycle captures
The DAC in every pin and multiplicity of cores could be demonstrated by setting up a video wall of eight displays (3 x 3 with one missing) plus eight pairs of stereo speakers driven by one P2 running video & audio demos.
I'd also like to buy a board/boards, but probably first when you have have something either replacing Flip and/or the ActivityBoards. Still squeezing probably only 5 % out of what a P1 can do, but memory is sometimes an issue with C.
I would like to buy a board or two, and probably some P1 chips too. Like others have said before I'd prefer to have a minimal board, so that we are not constrained by PCB hardware ... (one experiment I want to do is to change the 20MHz crystal with a 19.44MHz one )
Real silicon is a lot more persuasive than the FPGA, but it still needs to look appealing (a lot of first impressions are made on looks alone)
"Außerlichkeiten sind nicht alles aber 100 % von was man sieht" like a former colleague of mine would say ;-). (Looks are not everything but 100 % of what you see)
We still use P1 regularly and would welcome P2 tremendously as we get fedup in our projects. We would welcome P2 to get rid of using ARM and MBed RTOS stuff for complex parallel applications.
I am not sure where we could contribute here in the Netherlands than promoting this great news as much as possible and launch new products on our website and in our upcoming mobile robot projects.
But we definitely will buy a few of the early boards to get started.
I might buy a board, but only when I have time on my hands. Somebody mentioned they were making a PropTool2, I will likely wait for that as well. I should probably also finish learning the p1 first.
Just chiming in here. I'd buy boards and chips as soon as they are available, and I'll pay for shipping (to Colombia or Belgium). Though I'll gladly test, I cannot in good confidence commit.
Is it possible to add my email address to an announcement list?
PS: I don't think I have ever been as excited about anything for such a long time
Graphics on the P2 will be really great, I think. Textured polygons, anyone?
Although the lack of money on my part and functioning QAM modulator on the P2's part, convinces me to wait at least until the final chips are here. Maybe even wait for the potential 16 cog 1MB upgrade. Besides, P1 hasn't been taken to the outer limits just yet. (don't worry i'm working on that one )
Has the general layout for the November test boards been decided yet?
Just thinking that maybe I could start on a board to mate to it...
Yes. It is almost done. We should be able to put a rendering of it up by Monday.
Just curious whether the design for the test board is done yet. I'm really looking forward to getting one with one of the P2s that are coming early next month.
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and those pin cells can also largely self-test, reducing the need for daughter boards.
eg any of these are way above the generic MCU ability...
~ 30 UARTS (!) should be possible, and those can be compile switched to be self testing (loop back echo, or ring-connect)
~ 60 Servo out should be possible. Unsure about self-tests there, maybe the streamer can logic-probe capture 32 pins, 1000 samples per period or similar ?
~ 60 PWM out, tho servo gives users the idea...
~ 15 Axis Stepper Motor Driver - MicroStep Sine/Cosine DAC + QuadEncoder readback - I think that can self-test by Quad Encode map to DAC pins.
~ 60 Servo In, capture of Period
~ 30 Reciprocal Frequency Counters, very wide dynamic range, 8 decimal digits / second precision.
~ 30 high precision % Duty Cycle captures
Actually, maybe a few...
Something like P2D2 with a Propeller Platform type arrangement for access to all pins is great for integrating into projects.
The DAC in every pin and multiplicity of cores could be demonstrated by setting up a video wall of eight displays (3 x 3 with one missing) plus eight pairs of stereo speakers driven by one P2 running video & audio demos.
Just to continue with the German...
"Außerlichkeiten sind nicht alles aber 100 % von was man sieht" like a former colleague of mine would say ;-). (Looks are not everything but 100 % of what you see)
I am not sure where we could contribute here in the Netherlands than promoting this great news as much as possible and launch new products on our website and in our upcoming mobile robot projects.
But we definitely will buy a few of the early boards to get started.
Is it possible to add my email address to an announcement list?
PS: I don't think I have ever been as excited about anything for such a long time
This has taken so long, but it feels like it's really getting a head of steam now.
It's close man. There are real chips out there, and they are useful. Big milestone.
I am super excited too.
Tom
Super. There are several modes in the shifter to assemble RGB data efficiently on-the-fly from hub memory. VGA is flexible and a lot of fun.
Although the lack of money on my part and functioning QAM modulator on the P2's part, convinces me to wait at least until the final chips are here. Maybe even wait for the potential 16 cog 1MB upgrade. Besides, P1 hasn't been taken to the outer limits just yet. (don't worry i'm working on that one
Just thinking that maybe I could start on a board to mate to it...
Yes. It is almost done. We should be able to put a rendering of it up by Monday.
Cool, can't wait to see. : ]
Just curious whether the design for the test board is done yet. I'm really looking forward to getting one with one of the P2s that are coming early next month.
Hoping for a Happy ThanksChipping this November!