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  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Residual magnetisation is hardly anything amazing. It's usually a hindrance in most situations.

    It's certainly pointless for any free energy discussion, which is ultimately what the topic is.

  • evanh wrote:
    Residual magnetisation is hardly anything amazing.
    Especially when there isn't any. :)

    -Phil
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    evanh,

    The topic is not free energy. As our OP has said many times.

    The topic is the weird stiction of two metal blocks. Which we now recon to be a well known phenomena due to the Van der Waals force.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Problem is, Mickster is arguing that free-energy is possible. All his questions will be around this line of enquiry.

    The only freeness possible is that of capturing excess. If he comes round to this reality I'll start entertaining other questions of reality.

  • I give up... just gonna have a couple of bars made up....LOL
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Still holding out I see.
  • I'll narrate the hydrogen vidieo. First of all it's no producing enough gas to keep a candle lit secondly the D.C. Meter on the power supply is not displaying the true power being used. They are switching the power on and off with a narrow pulse width spike at a high frequency that's why you don't see the current on the cheap D.C. Meter.
  • Clock LoopClock Loop Posts: 2,069
    edited 2018-03-26 05:09
    Now can we finish this off and move back to discussing other things?


    Strange phenomenon?

    I have a few names that you may want to put into the mix.

    Nikola Tesla.

    Richard Feynman.

    Both have wacky thoughts and some of those "intentions" were never developed or completely tested.

    BUT, their successfully inventive lives, are a testimony to the validity of those thoughts.... even if they are ... out there...

    As an inventor you see strange things in the process of making things, or you see things that should be possible......most invent in the head......like a vulcan.....consistent repetitive regressive thought..... most have science base, others are fringe material that has yet to be investigated.

    Humans are really just cave dwellers hoping to find fire one day, you see its just a myth told by elders... at first...
  • Clock LoopClock Loop Posts: 2,069
    edited 2018-03-26 05:23
    Let me start.

    read the article here, but heres a snippett..

    https://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/the-tesla-files/Content?oid=1109270
    Tesla himself felt that his work in Colorado Springs would change the planet. 
    "It was on the 3rd of July -- the date I shall never forget -- 
    when I obtained the first decisive experimental evidence of a truth of overwhelming importance for the advancement of humanity," Tesla wrote in his journal.
    
    In short, as lightning got farther away, the pulses being picked up by Tesla's equipment didn't fade. 
    Tesla felt he had discovered evidence that the Earth itself contained "stationary waves" 
    that could serve as a good conduit for electromagnetic energy, opening the possibility of worldwide, 
    instantaneous communication and global transmission of power through the Earth's crust.
    
    Many modern physicists don't buy this notion, but perhaps the man in the VW bus was contemplating the implications of that: 
    free power for the masses, anywhere on the planet, without messy power lines cluttering up the streetscape.
    
    Or perhaps he was simply trying to imagine what the hill looked like 101 years ago this summer, when on a crisp summer night, 
    Tesla and his assistant Kolman Czito, sent 12 million volts flying through their 80-foot mast, shooting bolts of lightning 145 feet in all directions.
    
    The dazzling light display that night ultimately sent Colorado Springs into darkness 
    after a generator operated by the city power company melted down. 
    
    It took weeks of pleading from Tesla, along with the promise to fix the generator free of charge, before the power company reconnected the juice to Tesla's lab. 
    
    
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Clock Loop wrote: »
    Humans are really just cave dwellers hoping to find fire one day, you see its just a myth told by elders... at first...
    ... but through the ages, much has been learnt, and carefully detailed about exactly how.

    There is real knowledge out there if one stops sucking on cheap sales gimmicks and knuckles down to some really hard learning.

  • Clock LoopClock Loop Posts: 2,069
    edited 2018-03-26 05:28
    evanh wrote: »
    Clock Loop wrote: »
    Humans are really just cave dwellers hoping to find fire one day, you see its just a myth told by elders... at first...
    ... but through the ages, much has been learnt, and carefully detailed about exactly how.

    There is real knowledge out there if one stops sucking on cheap sales gimmicks and knuckles down to some really hard learning.

    You completely missed the point.

    But study hard, not sure if it will help.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Clock Loop,
    That quote tells us nothing useful. The losses were ridiculous, dangerously so. And one measurement does not evidence a make.

  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    edited 2018-03-26 05:43
    Clock Loop wrote: »
    evanh wrote: »
    Clock Loop wrote: »
    Humans are really just cave dwellers hoping to find fire one day, you see its just a myth told by elders... at first...
    ... but through the ages, much has been learnt, and carefully detailed about exactly how.

    There is real knowledge out there if one stops sucking on cheap sales gimmicks and knuckles down to some really hard learning.

    You completely missed the point.

    But study hard, not sure if it will help.

    My point is both your named persons, Tesla and Feynman, had studied latest real science. They actually did the hard yards. Using them as push-buttons for fake rubbish is an insult to them.

  • Once again. I started this thread simply because I am intrigued by this Van Der Waals force (thank you Phil).

    I had never heard of this and I simply want to have a couple of steel bars, precision-ground, to test this phenomenon. If it works... great! If nothing else, I will be able to amuse my friends with it.

    I somehow seem to have upset the thought-police.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Mickster wrote: »
    I somehow seem to have upset the thought-police.

    You do realise that advocating for greater than unity (free energy) is effectively saying superman is real.

  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Let's, as has been suggested many times by the OP, forget the over unity stuff and think about the Van Der Waals force under discussion. Which is real enough.

    The question arising is, does blasting two steel plates with a magnetic pulse help make the Van Der Waals attraction more easily attainable?



  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Heater. wrote: »
    .. forget the over unity stuff ...
    It'll be interesting to see how long it takes Mickster to reference it again.

  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Mickster,
    I somehow seem to have upset the thought-police.
    I think "thought-police" is putting it a bit strongly.

    This is afterall a technical forum. As such the contributors should be setting things straight as best they can.

    For example if someone gets their Ohm's law upside down, should we correct them there or should we just accept it as an "alternative fact" that is as good as any other?

    I suggest the former is appropriate. Hence the intolerance towards claims of "over unity", "free energy" and so on.
  • I haven't made any outlandish claims regarding ”free energy”. I already stated this in an earlier post.

    Regarding Bob Boyce, his hydrogen powered boat had a faulty rectifier that caused AC to be superimposed on the DC supply to his hydrogen cell and he claims that the electrolytic process accelerated.

    He reproduced this on the bench using a signal generator.

    I simply stated that I would like to test this claim. The required apparatus is very basic. Where's the harm in that?

    I then get bombarded with ”it's a money making scam”. AFAIK, Boyce didn't offer anything for sale. It's free information. The same applies to Dave Lawton....open source!
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Oh man ... you're actually defending that rubbish!

  • If I was convinced, I wouldn't be interested in testing it for myself.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    There are endless numbers of those on Youtube. Don't feed the sales, and they will be selling something.

    You're just encouraging more dribble.

  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Actually, just by watching them you're probably feeding the authors some money. The average javascript enabled viewer is tracked and that triggers ad payments to the channel owners. Or something to that effect.

  • The simple fact that my interest in the topic has resulted in my becoming aware of the Van Der Waals force.

    This alone could have HUGE potential in my field of work.

    I built a $20M corporation by finding new/better methods. I'm still doing this today so I think I'll continue to have an open mind, thanks.
  • My latest ”crazy” development can be found elsewhere on the forum. I replace fridge/freezer size CNC controls with my ruggedized tablet. Order book is full and I don't even have a website for it.

    Anyway, thanks for sharing your wisdom, I'll try to not be ripped off.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    So you basically think I'm wrong on all counts.
  • I basically think that you're looking for an argument and I refuse to oblige.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2018-03-26 16:49
    The Van der Waals force (wikipedia link) is definitely an interesting and useful phenomenon worth learning about. It pops up in a number of places, including the feet of geckos, as has been mentioned.
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Mickster wrote: »
    I basically think that you're looking for an argument and I refuse to oblige.

    You were arguing pretty strongly yourself. I'll settle for an agreement that over unity is nothing but fantasy.

  • Let's be a little more civil, please. We don't' like sinking threads.
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