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Can You Get to this Website?

Quite maddening. Chinese website http://www.scc21.net/ won't load at home thru my ISP (Verizon), but it loads fine on the same laptop at many wifi locations. I'm not talking about downloading any of the software there, just loading the page. I just get:

This webpage is not available

ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT


Can a few of you nice folks see if you can load that page or not and comment? Need to know if I should recommend the page or not, maybe it's my connection or ISP that's hinky. Thanks.

BTW I tried both IE-10 and Chrome, and have been trying for a week now. I can view the source of a Google-cached page with all the right hyperlinks, so I'm not totally stranded. Just baffled why I can't connect from home.

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  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    Works fine here.
    Windows 10 with edge and firefox
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,648
    edited 2016-03-06 22:59
    I can't get to it...

    You might have to VPN to Australia...
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2016-03-06 23:07
    Works fine here. But all there is, is a page of icons linking to downloads.

    Should you happen to hit one of those links it starts downloading some android .apk or windows .zip or whatever file.

    No doubt malware.

    Why do you want to access this thing ?
    1082 x 537 - 165K
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    Oh, dat ain't malware boss! That's gold!
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Hmm...tell me more.
  • erco wrote: »
    Oh, dat ain't malware boss! That's gold!

    Well that's what I saw as well. What do those things do?
    ----
    Strange, all three robots have gotten out and are climbing into a self-driven motor car, who is making money for itself via a well known company. And fourth one has put down your laptop after ordering that vehicle, and is now escaping himself for a bus ride to the airport.

  • works for me from CA with AT&T

    Enjoy!

    Mike
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    It's webcam software, no biggie unless you need it!
  • evanhevanh Posts: 15,916
    Working fine for me. Quick to load.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    erco,
    It's webcam software, no biggie unless you need it!
    Do elaborate.

    Perhaps I do need webcam software. But a bunch of binaries off a dodgy website of no repute will not be tolerated here.

    Where do you want your pictures to end up?

  • Fine with Windows 7/Chrome in mid Missouri.

    John Abshier
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    OK thanks, sounds like "mostly" then. I'll have to ask Verizon what's up with my connection.

    @heater: It's for a specific dodgy Chinese webcam, not a big surprise that it's on a dodgey Chinese software website, amirite?
  • erco wrote: »
    OK thanks, sounds like "mostly" then. I'll have to ask Verizon what's up with my connection.

    @heater: It's for a specific dodgy Chinese webcam, not a big surprise that it's on a dodgey Chinese software website, amirite?

    Is your connection Verizon FIOS? (Which would work if your location was served by GTE at some point in the past.)
    ----
    Now those three have arrived via that car at their destination which is a suburban airport for their flights out. The fourth one took a train to SF, to take a train to Chicago, and from there to NYC.
  • Got right in, Win 10, Microsoft Edge, Roadrunner cable broadband. West Central Florida.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    @Buck: Actually all my bots were all last seen hitch-hiking thru Philadelphia.
  • erco wrote: »
    @Buck: Actually all my bots were all last seen hitch-hiking thru Philadelphia.

    Actually they returned safely from doing that. Now they are at it again. One of them plans on taking a train to Maine and then hitching rides to the UK and finally across Europe.

  • FWIW, I'm also in southern California, and my ISP is also Verizon. No joy.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    jones wrote: »
    FWIW, I'm also in southern California, and my ISP is also Verizon. No joy.

    Sound like some kind of Verizon-Trump-Hillary conspiracy...

    Thanks for the feedback.
  • A traceroute for me shows the domain cannot be resolved, making it a nameserver issue, not necessarily an issue with the site itself. The fact that some people can reach it while others cannot could mean lots of things, but among them could be things like the nameserver(s) have been poisoned, the nameservers are not considered authoritative, or a slew of other things. Personally I wouldn't be trying to visit the site unless and until they show a reliable tracing..

    I did a spot check using an Web site uptime service, and not a single one of their distributed machines around the globe could reach it, not even one in Shanghai.

    Shanghai CHN 0 0
    Singapore SGP 0 0
    London GBR 0 0
    Rotterdam NLD 0 0
    Stockholm SWE 0 0
    Strasbourg FRA 0 0
    Chicago USA 0 0
    Las Vegas USA 0 0
    Los Angeles USA 0 0
    Orlando USA 0 0
    Washington, D.C. USA 0 0
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    Yowsah, thanks for checking that, Boss! Hard to believe there's anything sketchy about a Chinese website...
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2016-03-07 20:37
    You can call them on the phone if you like, the numbers are here:
    $ whois scc21.net
    Whois Server Version 2.0
    
    Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
    with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
    for detailed information.
    
       Domain Name: SCC21.NET
       Registrar: HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD.
       Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 420
       Whois Server: grs-whois.hichina.com
       Referral URL: http://www.net.cn
       Name Server: DNS17.HICHINA.COM
       Name Server: DNS18.HICHINA.COM
       Status: ok https://www.icann.org/epp#OK
       Updated Date: 13-may-2015
       Creation Date: 17-nov-2009
       Expiration Date: 17-nov-2016
    
    >>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 20:46:43 GMT <<<
    
    For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp
    
    NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
    registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
    currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
    date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
    registrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
    view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.
    
    TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois
    database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
    automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
    modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry
    Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for
    information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information
    about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
    guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
    by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
    for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data
    to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
    unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
    or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
    that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,
    repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly
    prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to
    use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or
    query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register
    domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right
    to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure
    operational stability.  VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the
    Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign
    reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.
    
    The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
    Registrars.
    Domain Name: scc21.net
    Registry Domain ID: 1575991796_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: grs-whois.hichina.com
    Registrar URL: http://whois.aliyun.com/
    Updated Date: 2015-05-13T07:22:25Z
    Creation Date: 2009-11-17T05:13:04Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-11-17T05:13:04Z
    Registrar: HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD.
    Registrar IANA ID: 420
    Reseller:
    Domain Status: ok http://www.icann.org/epp#OK
    Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
    Registrant Name: quan chunhui
    Registrant Organization: shenzhen hekai Communication Co., Ltd.
    Registrant Street: Shenzhen Baoan District Xixiang Shu Ren Building B5 Sunray Industrial Zone,,
    Registrant City: shen  shi
    Registrant State/Province: guang dong
    Registrant Postal Code: 518126
    Registrant Country: CN
    Registrant Phone: +86.15014098445
    Registrant Phone Ext: 
    Registrant Fax: +86.15014098445
    Registrant Fax Ext: 
    Registrant Email: ali@hekaikeji.com
    Registry Admin ID: Not Available From Registry
    Admin Name: qu xl
    Admin Organization: xinglingq
    Admin Street: shenzhun,,
    Admin City: shenzun
    Admin State/Province: guangdong
    Admin Postal Code: 851000
    Admin Country: CN
    Admin Phone: +86.075588888999
    Admin Phone Ext: 813
    Admin Fax:+86.07552999999
    Admin Fax Ext: 
    Admin Email: q_167891@163.com
    Registry Tech ID: Not Available From Registry
    Tech Name: hichina
    Tech Organization: HiChina Web Solutions Limited
    Tech Street: 3/F., HiChina Mansion,No.27 Gulouwai Avenue,Dongcheng District
    Tech City: Beijing
    Tech State/Province: Beijing
    Tech Postal Code: 100011
    Tech Country: CN
    Tech Phone: +86.01065985888
    Tech Phone Ext: 
    Tech Fax: +86.01065985438
    Tech Fax Ext: 
    Tech Email: support@YinSiBaoHu.AliYun.com
    Name Server: dns17.hichina.com
    Name Server: dns18.hichina.com
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@list.alibaba-inc.com
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +86.4006008500
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
    >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-05-13T07:22:25Z <<<
    
    Registry Billing ID: Not Available From Registry
    Billing Name: hichina
    Billing Organization: HiChina Web Solutions Limited
    Billing Street: 3/F., HiChina Mansion,No.27 Gulouwai Avenue,Dongcheng District
    Billing City: Beijing
    Billing State/Province: Beijing
    Billing Postal Code: 100011
    Billing Country: CN
    Billing Phone: +86.01065985888
    Billing Phone Ext: 
    Billing Fax: +86.01065985438
    Billing Fax Ext: 
    Billing Email: support@YinSiBaoHu.AliYun.com
    
    Important Reminder: Per ICANN 2013RAA`s request, Hichina has modified domain names`whois format of dot com/net/cc/tv, you could refer to section 1.4 posted by ICANN on http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun13-en.htm#whois The data in this whois database is provided to you for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. We make this information available "as is," and do not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a whois query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1)enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that stress or load this whois database system providing you this information; or (2) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone.  The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without prior written consent from us. We reserve the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.For complete domain details go to:http://whois.aliyun.com/whois/domain/scc21.net
    
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    Call 'em? Heck, their address is right there. I have a good mind to ring their doorbell and run.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2016-03-07 21:18
    So, what is going on here? From sunny Helsinki there is no problem:
    $ ping  www.scc21.net
    PING www.scc21.net (114.119.7.17) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 114.119.7.17: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=413 ms
    64 bytes from 114.119.7.17: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=427 ms
    ^C
    --- www.scc21.net ping statistics ---
    2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 413.853/420.896/427.939/7.043 ms
    michael@debian:~/jhctech/ppp$ wget   www.scc21.net
    --2016-03-07 23:28:51--  http://www.scc21.net/
    Resolving www.scc21.net (www.scc21.net)... 114.119.7.17
    Connecting to www.scc21.net (www.scc21.net)|114.119.7.17|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 2301 (2.2K) [text/html]
    Saving to: ‘index.html’
    
    index.html                      100%[=========================================================>]   2.25K  --.-KB/s   in 0s     
    
    2016-03-07 23:28:51 (4.78 MB/s) - ‘index.html’ saved [2301/2301]
    
  • Their DNS is not RFC compliant, at the top of the list:

    1. No nameservers respond to queries via TCP.
    2. No nameservers provided an SOA record for the zone.

  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    xanadu,

    I don't follow. For sure a lot of stuff on the net is not RFC compliant.

    I presume my web browsers and whois are using TCP/IP to resolve that name.

    OK, I have no idea about the SOA thing.

  • Heater. wrote: »
    So, what is going on here? From sunny Helsinki there is no problem:
    $ ping  www.scc21.net
    PING www.scc21.net (114.119.7.17) 56(84) bytes of data....
    

    Well there you go. You added www to the domain name, and it works for me too.

    Looks like not everyone knows how to set up a Web server.

  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2016-03-07 22:52
    Looks like most of these files are a link to another site. You can get the links from the HTML, do a right-click and view source.

    Here are some of them;

    uipcam<dot>hk/UploadFiles/plug2view.apk [android]
    uipcam<dot>hk/UploadFiles/SYSM%20Monitor-NEW.zip [PC]
    uipcam<dot>hk/UploadFiles/p2pCamViewer.zip [apple]
    uipcam<dot>hk/UploadFiles/English instructions.zip [manual]

    Edit: the above links require www. before them.






  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    I did not add anything. The "www" is there in Erco's original link.

    But now I don't understand. As far as I'm know scc21.net is not the same as www.scc21.net or xyz.scc21.net or whatever. Why should they not all resolve to different IP addresses or none at all?

    The web server itself knows nothing of all this.

    As it happens "scc21.net" does not resolve here.

  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2016-03-07 23:04
    Most people use a CNAME for www., it appears they used an A Record and the settings between the two are different.

    @Gordon has it right, it's either someone with little experience or some wacky shared hosting setup.


  • Heater piqued my curiosity. Sunny Helsinki is fogged in right now. Daytime high 2C, nighttime low 1C. 100% relative humidity. Crazy!
    Way out West, it's sunshine with a chance of paragliders.
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