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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-09-24 15:00
    Gordon,

    Who is "Rich"?

    Well, yes you are right. We have many models or approximations of the physical worlds behaviour that are applicable in many situations and break down in others. In optics thinking of those rays of light travelling in straight lines is fine much of the time.

    I do totally agree with you all about the wide arc in space produced by waving a laser.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2014-09-24 15:11
    Rich is W9GFO (if you're a Carl Sagan fan you'll get the allusion, though I have to say he doesn't look anything like Jodie Foster).
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-09-24 15:51
    Odd that physics professors would make this claim.
    In the context of its presentation, it was more of a koan than a claim.

    -Phil
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-24 19:47
    This grasshopper learns much from PhiPi!


    koan

    Houghton Mifflin

    n.noun

    1.A puzzling, often paradoxical statement, anecdote, question, or verbal exchange, used in Zen Buddhism as an aid to meditation and a means of gaining spiritual awakening.
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2014-09-24 21:03
    Rich is W9GFO (if you're a Carl Sagan fan you'll get the allusion, though I have to say he doesn't look anything like Jodie Foster).

    It really is my call sign, and no, we don't look too similar.
  • DominikHoffmannDominikHoffmann Posts: 2
    edited 2014-09-24 22:25
    You can find all sorts of stuff like this on Alibaba.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-26 23:45
    Do I win beer nuts or anything for posting the first multi-laser project?

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/157586-Laser-Tracker-Pan-amp-Tilt?p=1295399#post1295399
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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-09-27 03:00
    I think they pay out in walnuts around here.

    You deserve a few for that demo.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2014-09-27 08:10
    Now use it with a cheap camera to measure distances!
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-27 10:16
    Now it's you guys' turn to show off a few lasers in a project. Otherwise, you're just hoarding. :)
  • doggiedocdoggiedoc Posts: 2,241
    edited 2014-09-27 14:54
    erco wrote: »
    ... Otherwise, you're just hoarding. :)
    Yup. That would be me.
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2014-09-27 15:19
    erco wrote: »
    Now it's you guys' turn to show off a few lasers in a project. Otherwise, you're just hoarding. :)

    I tried aligning a couple of lasers to make a horizontal line. They projected all over the wall (high and low, uneven spacing). Not a lot of consistency here but what can you expect for 22 cents...

    I guess you experienced that trying to make your square.

    I used a drill press for seven lasers in a row. They fit tightly into the holes, but you can see they don't exactly line up! :smile:

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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-27 17:36
    I guess you experienced that trying to make your square.

    I used a drill press for seven lasers in a row. They fit tightly into the holes, but you can see they don't exactly line up! :smile:

    Yes, I also found that the beam was not parallel with the cylindrical laser diode to varying degrees over the four units I used. Maybe that's why they are discounted so heavily. Didn't slow me down though, I expected that. The photo shows my unit after assembly with all lasers on whilst being glued into alignment.
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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-09-27 19:43
    My app was to project laser dots on the seabed for calibration of a subsurface camera image. Perhaps I was not so crazy to order the more expensive ($2) lasers after all! :)

    -Phil
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2014-09-28 09:03
    ... aligning a couple of lasers.. they don't exactly line up!

    1) drill holes in you mounting material
    2) make a pencil rubbing of the holes
    3) stick the mounted lasers on the wall on one side of the room
    4) stick the paper on the wall on the other side of the room.
    5) adjust the lasers (i used shims and little drywall screws) so each dot is centered on the corresponding hole image on the paper.

    Once the beam are pretty parallel, your done. eventually they willdiverge, but they will be farther away than you can see. I never found a far enough target to use a telescope, I live in the plains. Maybe somebody by mountains cn do better.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-28 10:14
    I used a thin plate, press fit holes and CA to affix lasers after alignment as shown a few posts back. Keep CA & kicker far from laser lens, the fumes can fog the lens.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-10-16 13:55
    My $2.11 purchase led to another, far more expensive purchase. When I looked at the 21-cent variety, I realized that they do not have focussing lenses. So I also sprung for ten of these:
    -Phil

    Anybody else got this item?. I' still waiting.

    Jim
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-10-16 14:25
    Mine arrived. I'm not sure when, I don't receipt my eBay items when they arrive but it was probably at least a week or more since I got them. I have been into Ebay to update feedback on them and I know it's been more than a week since I did feedback.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-10-16 15:42
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-10-16 15:46
    Publison wrote:
    Anybody else got this item?. I' still waiting.
    Mine (the $2 variety) just came last week. So, yeah, it was a long wait. But they're very nice.

    -Phil

    Re: your last post. Same laser, same seller.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-10-16 16:01
    Thanks for that update Phil.
  • Clock LoopClock Loop Posts: 2,069
    edited 2014-10-16 16:28
    Quick someone point two lasers at each other fiber optic optional, using power transistors if necessary, but also include a tap off the laser diodes to the prop to detect discharge for use as button.

    If a laser can talk to a laser at fairly useful speeds.... at these prices...
    Ive never tried to apply the" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Mims#Using_LEDs_as_narrow_band_light_sensors " method to laser diodes.



    DOO EEEIT.

    A quick way to do it is run RCTIME function on proper leg of detector diode, with other leg held H or L during desired detection window, watch rctime output as number in debug to determine if any deviation when lasing the cavity of a identical laser.
    Have emitter laser pulse at known interval. Watch for interval. Reciever may need to pulse also to cause bidirectional photonic phase lock.

    IF you get a bidirectional photonic phase lock in your laser cavities, vary the period and monitor the opposite diode anode/cathode for response.
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2014-10-16 16:53
    I fried 7 (out of the 20 I ordered) lasers (wired in parallel) by accidentally reversing the voltage :sick:.

    So I ordered another 20, which I got this week.

    I just ordered some Vishay TEPT5600 ambient light phototransistors. Their peak wave length sensitivity is 570nm and the infrared spectrum is suppressed.

    I'm hoping they will make good sensors for the lasers' 650nm.
  • Clock LoopClock Loop Posts: 2,069
    edited 2014-10-16 17:05
    Just point a laser at the surface of this water.

    Do not point a IR laser diode at it just after adding any one of these compounds,,,
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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-10-17 02:00
    Speaking of lasers, loud music and speakers...

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  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-10-17 10:26
    I was just about to contact the seller, and low and behold, they showed up today!

    Boy, they are big un's.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2015-03-04 15:20
    Looks like Lockheed Martin also stocked up on cheap lasers and ganged them all together: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-laser-weapon-truck-field.html

    30 kW, eh? Assuming these laser diodes are 5 mW each (?) then we'd need what, 6 million of them to make 30 kW? That's $1.26 million plus a bit of wiring and alignment labor.

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  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2015-03-04 16:07
    I have about 30 of them. So far all I have done was teased the dog!!! I think I will try to put a bunch together to see if I can start a fire.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2015-03-04 17:05
    I bet Lockheed Martin got a LOT more than $1.26 million.
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