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I want to be the parallax distributor in Australia.

whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
edited 2014-07-21 23:11 in General Discussion
The current one(name deleted). The website doesn’t work and is not up to date. The inventory is small because I’ve had to wait weeks sometimes in the past for parallax items. Does he order them after he gets an Australian order.

When you click on one of the few item listed, the price is $0.00

Worst website out there IMO

Are there very few Australian customers ?

This is a major pain.

PS. dear parallax, post me a prop plug please ';)
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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-17 21:25
    I suppose that if you want to be a Parallax distributor in Australia, you just have to invest time and money in a web site, appropriate business compliances, and inventory.

    Is this really a good idea? Do you have capital to invest? Is their enough of a profit to make it worth your while? Can you survive a start up where income might not be able for living expenses for a year or more?


    I doubt that Parallax is restricting Australia to just one distributor, and would likely welcome another. But people often buy directly from Parallax instead of a local distributor as Parallax may have inventory items that the distributor cannot afford to carry.

    What is going on here seems obvious. The other one went out of business, but the web pages seem to still come up in search engines.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-17 22:50
    Loopy, it was 3/4 jest. There is no Australian distributor i know of that is active, i think parallax might have very slim margins just for starters. I will order fro parallax direct when my order is sufficient to justify the postage. I’ve been in business and i know there is sooo much to consider .
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-17 23:35
    I suspect that many of us living afar have considered becoming a Parallax distributor. But then I would have even less time to play with my Propellers. I'd have to run the business.
  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,703
    edited 2014-07-17 23:49
    What business are you / were you in, Whiteoxe?

    Website isn't great but the service is generally good, including an emergency buying a propscope after hours once
  • macrobeakmacrobeak Posts: 354
    edited 2014-07-18 04:01
    The website is poor, but I use the main Parallax website to establish my requirements.
    The service is very good, and delivery is variable, but I have not had to wait too long for anything.
    My impression is that there are several Prop power-users in Australia, but the promotion and publicity of Parallax products is quite low.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 04:09
    Tubular wrote: »
    What business are you / were you in, Whiteoxe?

    Website isn't great but the service is generally good, including an emergency buying a propscope after hours once

    a bit uncommon, Organic Stock Feed Producer Darling Downs Queenslnd

    edit: and a decent website ;)

    http://www.ausorganicfeeds.com.au/Default.aspx

    very first time I have looked at it since I sold it a decade ago, made me sad ;( haaa, life moves on !! at times I had almost 200 grand owing to me, some customers really drag out payments, they don't realize the stess that places on a small business but I guess that was my job., but it can get tricky !!
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-18 09:44
    I think there might be a better positioning as a campus representative for Parallax once the Propeller 2 arrives. But you might have to be a university student to do that.
    People could organize big orders together to avoid large shipping cost of individual shipments and share knowledge.
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,392
    edited 2014-07-18 11:07
    I agree that our distribution in Aus has been lacking.

    RTN truly offers excellent personal service and has introduced many people to our products. Customers have complained about the RTN web site for many years.

    The larger distributors in Oz (Jaycar, Dick Smith) are always options.

    As you're an Aussie, what are your suggestions for Parallax?

    Ken Gracey
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 16:04
    Hi Ken,
    Glad you are here ! The problem is more than the website for sure. Please don't consider dicksmith. It once wa the famous GO-TO shop for all electronic but it gradually slipped so much that it is now a totally different kind of business. It now sells TV's ,Game consoles, e-readerss, phones etc etc. you won't find any resistor's, breadboards, microcontolers or anything of interest to Parallax minded customers.

    Jaycar has it all. They are a great chain store with knowlegible staff. They sell a lot of products to get kids interested as well. Jaycar are what DickSmith used to be plus Tandy/radioshack.
    If you supported Jaycar your business would treble overnight .

    mike.

    and they have a fantastic catalogue every year.
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2014-07-18 17:36
    Agreed...
    Jaycar is the components supplier of choice. Lots of stores and usually have competent employees.
    Element 14 and RS are bulk suppliers.
    Dick Smith is no longer a component supplier.
    Tandy is the same as Dick Smith (and IIRC owned by Dick Smith).

    I am not sure of volumes used in Australia. The ones using props that I know of buy from Parallax or DigiKey in quantity. That's what I do.
    If the requirement is for small numbers of prop chips and just a few parts, then perhaps one of us on the forum could do it??? But if you want a full-blown store, I doubt there is enough volume to sustain it for any of the companies such as Jaycar.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-18 17:48
    Instead of a Distributor, I think I would like to be a tester for Parallax here in the states. How about it Ken???? I could test all your products for you to see if they are worthy of the regular destructive types!!!
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 18:10
    Cluso99 wrote: »
    But if you want a full-blown store, I doubt there is enough volume to sustain it for any of the companies such as Jaycar.
    I Yes Cluso99, unless there was a massive marketing campaign "JayCar and Parallax have joined forces" ;) but for basic stamps themselves and homework boards, and Prop chips and kits. Something could be hopefully worked out. ?

    PS; and prop plugs should be there ;)
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 18:24
    But Cluso99's idea of someone in the forum could be a distributor for the fastest selling items would also be brilliant. Maybe that person could have an Ebay Store. Its plain wrong not to support Australian's desire for quick purchase of Parallax products at fair prices (ie that killer postage)
  • macrobeakmacrobeak Posts: 354
    edited 2014-07-18 18:30
    Ken Gracey wrote: »
    I agree that our distribution in Aus has been lacking.

    RTN truly offers excellent personal service and has introduced many people to our products. Customers have complained about the RTN web site for many years.

    The larger distributors in Oz (Jaycar, Dick Smith) are always options.

    As you're an Aussie, what are your suggestions for Parallax?

    Ken Gracey
    Ken,
    Looking in our Aussie hobby electronics magazine (Silicon Chip) at supplier stores advertising spreads you will find Jaycar dominates, followed by Altronics.
    Online suppliers with good websites are Ocean Controls, Australian Robotics, Little Bird Electronics, Wiltronics and Robot Gear. I have used most of them and found them to be competent.
    Australian Robotics has a specific STEM committment which might interest you.
    My personal choice would be a Parallax supply agreement with Jaycar, with a Parallax display spot in the shops.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 19:38
    macrobeak wrote: »
    Ken,

    My personal choice would be a Parallax supply agreement with Jaycar, with a Parallax display spot in the shops.

    I think Ive said enough on this thread but I wanted to concur with this latest post. I have too (to) used most of those companies and found them very helpful. But they don’t have stores everywhere like Jaycar does, and I like to wander around Jaycar ;)
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-07-18 19:51
    Although Jaycar would seem to be the best choice "as a reseller" I don't know if they would be that cheap. I mean would you buy from them if they sold the Prop Activity Board for $99 AU? They seem to have a big markup so that even pin headers are priced as if they were solid gold. But certainly they have the stores and display space and prices through their wholesale division Electus are much better.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-07-18 19:55
    All it takes is money, whiteoxe. Fronting the cash to have stock ready to rush ship is what "instant gratification buyers" want.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-18 20:55
    All it takes is money
    Understatement of the year!!!! That and the ability to store huge amounts of inventory. Or better yet, if you can afford a huge fleet of trucks your product would never need to be stored. Consider Sams Club/Walmart and Costco. They are able to buy in bulk and therefore can get screaming deals on everything they buy. I am in the CCTV industry and if I had the capability of storing large amounts of all the items I carry I would be able to retire early due to the cost difference in buying 100 units versus 10,000 units. I just recently purchased samples of 5 megapixel IP cameras that retail for over $500.00 for under $50.00. That would be my price if I were to buy 1000 units at a time, plus freight from, Wait for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you guessed it, China.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 21:13
    Well now its all clear..if we can't get a one of the larger stores to pick it up. we need one Aussie (partnerships geez that is no fun) with cash and waiting for an opportunity who can also figure out how to get postage deals like the Chinese , to service Australia and nearby Nations ?

    PJ, ask Prime Electronics , its a great location ;)
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-18 22:27
    I think the Chinese shipping issue was discussed some time ago in another thread. IIRC it boiled down to the Chinese Government subsidizing the companies shipping charges. Once it leaves China though I have no clue!!!
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-07-18 22:51
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    I think the Chinese shipping issue was discussed some time ago in another thread. IIRC it boiled down to the Chinese Government subsidizing the companies shipping charges. Once it leaves China though I have no clue!!!

    Correction, the destination nations end up subsidizing this through "terminal dues" due to the imbalance created when one nation's shipping far outweighs its receiving. Shipping nation keeps the "postage", receiving nation cops it sweet.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-18 23:20
    the destination nations end up subsidizing this through "terminal dues" due to the imbalance created when one nation's shipping far outweighs its receiving. Shipping nation keeps the "postage", receiving nation cops it sweet.
    Yea, something like that!!!!
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-18 23:36
    Well, if there is any significant savings in buying larger orders from Parallax, buying in groups would seem to be useful.

    I mentioned setting up a campus representative to do this in student/university populations. But any co-operative buying organization could be a big plus.

    My own dilemma is that nobody else in Kaohsiung seems to be interested in Parallax products, but that is not the case elsewhere. Just schedule a quarterly buying schedule.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-18 23:38
    you blokes should enter a TV Quiz show... there seems nothing you don't know ,even outside the esoteric world of Electronics .(i hope my big word was in the right context ;)
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-19 00:56
    Wiki_Parallax??? I hope not.
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2014-07-19 09:49
    I normally have plenty of props and related components (smt qfp) and mostly a few t/hole components. A few of us buy in quantity from Parallax and/or DigiKey.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-20 23:31
    Hey,
    What do you think about http://www.futurlec.com.au/

    They were once recommended to me along with LittleBird Electronics. I found futurelec very good to deal with. Especially when I just wanted a few bits and pieces that were inexpensive. Their postage is very very cheap. They have an Australian office but only a fax number. If you want to query them on something they respond quickly to emails. Obviously they are offshore but I dont see the problem with that.

    I just placed a small test order of $20 and the postage was $4.00

    So what do you think ?
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-21 13:57
    I have actually bought from Futurlec. I personally like them, but others strongly dislike them and claim some parts are fake. I haven't had that experience.

    They can be a little bit slow and expect parts to come from odd places ... like Thailand.
    They have a great web site in terms of PDFs for the parts they sell... way above average
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-21 14:07
    yeah Loopy, Ive never had a bad experience with them. and as Ive said their postage is extremely cheap. The downside is it can take two weeks as they warn for the ordered items to arrive. (I wonder where they actually are) but then I started thinking about LittleBird Electonics http://littlebirdelectronics.com.au/

    They have good postage rates and free if you happen to spend $100. plus you can call them up and chat about what you are trying to do and get good advice,. Ive asked questions like ,"I want to power a couple of 12 volt devices using thre 3.3 volts my MC puts out. and AI get told what i need and how to hook it up , maybe Im in the 1% that needs to be told but they dont mind helping at all.

    They ship very fast which is a bonus even if I have to pay $7 instead of $4.00
  • tomcrawfordtomcrawford Posts: 1,126
    edited 2014-07-21 14:13
    I do not believe you can trust anything Futurlec says about having items in stock. I have had common-cathode RGB 8x8 matrixes on order since April. They e-mail saying they don't have any, but their web site says they are in stock and has said so since April. Full disclosure requires me to add that they (he?) offered to cancel the order and refund my money.
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