I dunno, maybe Taiwan Google is special... Looking back, I actually ran "SimpleIDE LInux Download". Too much for Google to contemplate?
In any event SimpleIDE 0-9-45 installed nicely.. just had to run the setup.sh as a superuser, and everything came up.
And so, all is well that ends well.
Should I try to get SimpleIDE on to my Cubieboard? At this point, I think I will familiarize myself with it in Debian.
I am thinking that at this point a brief status report is necessary, before this thread goes off track talking about Forth and the Cubieboard.
SimpleIDE-0-9-45 Linux (32-bit version) - Some problems have been identified with the install process, the proper people are aware, I hope, and a cure is in process. Once that gets done, then another test run will be attempted, and hopefully a very good package will result.
SimpleIDE-0-9-47 Linux (64-bit version) - A minor glitch within setup has been identified, and probably the problem will be resolved in a very short time.
It has been stated that more than likely the next release of SimpleIDE will have the Spin part removed, so it seems like these existing packages need to be looked at as a one of a kind. I plan to keep these around for quite some time.
I am also hoping that maybe Loopy can start a separate thread for SimpleIDE Cubieboard, because he has one. I just looked at the docs for the truck version, and looks like an interesting board.
Can't the Cubieboard and the Pi and Beagle Bone play in this thread? They by any other names are still Linux systems....if you grep them do they not awk? (Wow, good thin Shakespeare wasn't a computer geek!)
Can't the Cubieboard and the Pi and Beagle Bone play in this thread?
Okay, fine. I think Heater. has the Pi covered, with his own thread, not sure if anybody has a Beagle Bone. One member has confessed to owning a Cubieboard.
Since it takes ~20 hours to build SimpleIDE for the Pi, how long will it take to build SimpleIDE for the Cubieboard, ~15 hours? Even though it has a slightly faster processor, I can't see too many people trying too build SimpleIDE for that board. Since the Cubieboard has a different audience in mind, than the Pi, maybe it is worth spending some time to get SimpleIDE working on that board, and maybe the Cubieboard manufacturers would note that on there WEB site giving the Propeller more exposure?
So, who is going to be the next Cubieboard owner with SimpleIDE working on it?
The last Pi build I did was down to about 11 hours from 20 something.
I attached a USB hard drive and enabled swap space on it.
Those new Cubies have perhaps 4 times the processing power. More MHz, better processor and the build process can spread itself over the two cores. And they have SATA interfaces. Perhaps we get down to 3 or 4 hours!
If we were sensible we might set up a cross-compile tool chain and do the work on a PC.
If we were sensible we might set up a cross-compile tool chain and do the work on a PC.
Sounds interesting, what did you have in mind? Does this mean you would be able too spit out some binaries that would run on Linux box(i686, ARM, ...) and would be produced on a PC box, using Windows? That sure would speed up the process of creating some applications.
Yes. There is a cross compiler for the Raspi. It runs on x86 PC Linux (No idea if there are Windows versions) and spits out code that runs on the Pi.
In our case it is: A GCC compiler on x86 that compiles GCC to run on ARM which in turn compiles code to run on the Propeller?
All of which makes my head spin.
This is easy to do for a "Hello World" cross compile but cross-compiling a cross-compiler might be a tad tricky.
Also to build SimpleIDE for ARM on the PC requires setting up the Qt libs and a billion dependencies on the PC as well...
Loopy,
Yeah, I want that Cubie with SATA. Hooked up to a Samsung SSD. Sounds ever so close to not needing a PC any more!
Yeah, I want that Cubie with SATA. Hooked up to a Samsung SSD. Sounds ever so close to not needing a PC any more!
I am always on the look out for a very small foot print computer to replace my big box PC. I have been checking on the Intel NUC stuff, maybe when they have a 3.0GHz processor available, and a reasonable price ...
I cross=compiled my original binaries for the CubieBoard1 on my Intel Quad 64bit and using a 64 bit version of Ubuntu. As I recall, the 32bit Linux tool chain was broken.
Once I got the right stuff, it wasn't a problem to get CubieBoard1 working with Android or Ubuntu Linux. Things have progressed since then. But I have a strong feeling that CubieBoard with the CubieTruck will just gain more and more ground.
It may not be recognized in the West, but I think that out of Hong Kong there is a serious user base that will be loyal for some time to come.
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In any event SimpleIDE 0-9-45 installed nicely.. just had to run the setup.sh as a superuser, and everything came up.
And so, all is well that ends well.
Should I try to get SimpleIDE on to my Cubieboard? At this point, I think I will familiarize myself with it in Debian.
If you want to build propgcc and SimpleIDE on ARM I made notes about doing it on the Raspberry Pi most of which will apply to a Cubie I think.
http://the.linuxd.org/building-propgcc-for-the-raspberry-pi/
SimpleIDE-0-9-45 Linux (32-bit version) - Some problems have been identified with the install process, the proper people are aware, I hope, and a cure is in process. Once that gets done, then another test run will be attempted, and hopefully a very good package will result.
SimpleIDE-0-9-47 Linux (64-bit version) - A minor glitch within setup has been identified, and probably the problem will be resolved in a very short time.
It has been stated that more than likely the next release of SimpleIDE will have the Spin part removed, so it seems like these existing packages need to be looked at as a one of a kind. I plan to keep these around for quite some time.
I am also hoping that maybe Loopy can start a separate thread for SimpleIDE Cubieboard, because he has one. I just looked at the docs for the truck version, and looks like an interesting board.
Ray
Since it takes ~20 hours to build SimpleIDE for the Pi, how long will it take to build SimpleIDE for the Cubieboard, ~15 hours? Even though it has a slightly faster processor, I can't see too many people trying too build SimpleIDE for that board. Since the Cubieboard has a different audience in mind, than the Pi, maybe it is worth spending some time to get SimpleIDE working on that board, and maybe the Cubieboard manufacturers would note that on there WEB site giving the Propeller more exposure?
So, who is going to be the next Cubieboard owner with SimpleIDE working on it?
Ray
I attached a USB hard drive and enabled swap space on it.
Those new Cubies have perhaps 4 times the processing power. More MHz, better processor and the build process can spread itself over the two cores. And they have SATA interfaces. Perhaps we get down to 3 or 4 hours!
If we were sensible we might set up a cross-compile tool chain and do the work on a PC.
Ray
CubieTruck is CubieBoard3. There is a carrier for CubieBoard1 and CubieBoard2.
The latest is CubieBoard3 and is the best yet.
www.cubieboard.org
More than a Raspberry Pi could wish for.
In theory, they (Beagle Bone, Raspberry Pi, Cubieboard) are all Linux on OpenAVR and might use the same tool chain.
But with CubieBoard you actually get a SATA port.. suddenly you might have mass storage or a DVD player if you so wish.
I like the IR remote availability as well (consider an MP3 audio server0.
Yes. There is a cross compiler for the Raspi. It runs on x86 PC Linux (No idea if there are Windows versions) and spits out code that runs on the Pi.
In our case it is: A GCC compiler on x86 that compiles GCC to run on ARM which in turn compiles code to run on the Propeller?
All of which makes my head spin.
This is easy to do for a "Hello World" cross compile but cross-compiling a cross-compiler might be a tad tricky.
Also to build SimpleIDE for ARM on the PC requires setting up the Qt libs and a billion dependencies on the PC as well...
Loopy,
Yeah, I want that Cubie with SATA. Hooked up to a Samsung SSD. Sounds ever so close to not needing a PC any more!
Ray
Once I got the right stuff, it wasn't a problem to get CubieBoard1 working with Android or Ubuntu Linux. Things have progressed since then. But I have a strong feeling that CubieBoard with the CubieTruck will just gain more and more ground.
It may not be recognized in the West, but I think that out of Hong Kong there is a serious user base that will be loyal for some time to come.