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[*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
rapost@c3po ~ $ dpkg-query -l libc6
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-==============-============-============-=================================
ii libc6:amd64 2.17-92 amd64 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared li
You can also do a "ldd --version" which gives me this:
rapost@c3po ~ $ ldd --version
ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.17-92) 2.17
Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Written by Roland McGrath and Ulrich Drepper.
...I guess I will have to make some time and download the three DVD's necessary for a "real" install,...
No, don't do that. You only need a small download to get a Debian up and running. Only 280MB, burn to CD/DVD and boot it. As long as you ave an internet connection it will fetch what you want, and only what you want soon enough.
In your case it's the 64 bit version (amd64) from here: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
When I install Debian from such an image I don not let it install any desktop or apps. Just a minimal boot to command line.
Then I can get the kde-plasma desk top and whatever else I need. No junk.
The nice thing about this is that not only do yon not need to wast time downloading three DVDs worth of junk but you also don't have spend ages whilst it upgrades everything to the latest versions when you have it running.
Ah, Oh s..t. Depending on your printer you will have major problems no matter what desktop you use.
Last year I wasted a whole working day getting the Cannon network printer to work from my Debian box in our office. It took a lot of Googling and experimenting and fishing around in Cannon's really unhelpful downloads pages.
I have notes about that if you happen to have a similar printer.
My consolation was that my colleague took even longer to get his Windows machine to talk to that same printer
My consolation was that my colleague took even longer to get his Windows machine to talk to that same printer.
I have and old Lexmark T630, man did they make some good printers then. My Windows 7 finds the printer, I choose it and Windows does a perfect install, no problems. The last time I worked with KDE, it was also impressive, found it, I choose it, and it installs perfectly, so I guess maybe that is why I am leaning towards KDE.
I also remember trying to do a network install, what a disaster that turned out to be, I do not trust myself too try that again. I just maybe wasting more time than the actual three DVD downloads.
y
Ray
rapost@c3po ~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin $ /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
GNU C Library (Debian EGLIBC 2.17-92) stable release version 2.17, by Roland McGrath et al.
Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 4.7.3.
Compiled on a Linux 3.10.3 system on 2013-08-01.
Available extensions:
crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson
Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al
BIND-8.2.3-T5B
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>.
rapost@c3po ~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin $
As you can see, I get 2.17 as the EGLIBC version. I would expect Chris to get something older than 2.14 and Heater to get something newer than 2.14 (same with Ray, probably something older than 2.14)
$ /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
GNU C Library (Debian EGLIBC 2.18-1) stable release version 2.18, by Roland McGrath et al.
Which is kind of odd as that is a version from testing (sid). How did I get infected with that?
Just a cutting edge kind of guy!!
I don't know if I can find a manifest of some sort for Linux Mint to see if 2.17 is the standard or if I picked it up during some other install. I could just install it on my netbook and see what it comes with out of the box.
Can Ray and Chris just do an apt-get update, then an upgrade or is any libc newer than 2.13 just not in Debian yet (seems strange since I'm at 2.17 and Mint is Debian)
This is why Chip wants to make a Propeller Computer. It's not just a Zombie Apocalypse kind of thing.
...but we fan still use them when that Zombie Apocalypse thing goes down, right?
I could go for a P2 with a Propeller version of Pnut an a nice little terminal connected to the Px you are programming...because soon you will be able to run a multi-user time sharing system on your P2 that rivals Compuserve and AOL!!
I'm not sure. The version of Chrome I have installed here came from Google https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb and politely installed itself out of the way to /opt/google/chrome. I did not have to mess with the apt source list so it had no chance to mess with anything.
I used that because the Debian package you get with "apt-get install chromium" despite claiming to be built from the same source code version cannot post to the forums correctly!
I used that because the Debian package you get with "apt-get install chromium" despite claiming to be built from the same source code version cannot post to the forums correctly!
Yes!
This was one of the "Chrome on Linux" problems I had. I suppose chromium isn't chrome though. Oh well.
That Chrome and forum posting problem bugged me for ages. Some times it worked, on other machines it did not. For the exact same version. Then it clicked , the Debian package is broken. The one from Google is OK.
I can't imagine how the Android user interface makes any sense with a tool like SimpleIDE.
Having said that I have managed, a long while ago, to get Qt apps compiled and running under Android. And now Android is a fully supported platform for Qt. So take the source, get he Android SDK, and compile away.
Personally I would put Debian on a machine like the odroid. For sure SimpleIDE can be built to run on that. As it can for the Raspberry Pi and some other ARM boards I have here.
Jazzed, sorry if I'm being presumptuous with the "no" there.
Since their is a lull in activity here I decided to install VMware Player on my Windows box and see how that works for me. Since I am always looking for an open box to try out an OS, maybe the VMware Player will fill that gap? So, the first OS that I will try is kubuntu 32-bit, that way I can test out what sort of first reaction I get from running the SimpleIDE 32-bit version. I have not had any success in running SimpleIDE on a Linux system since the install process has been changed from the way jazzed used to provide.
On my Windows box I have an AMD 3.2GHz quadcore processor with 16GB of ram, so I am wondering if that will be enough guts to run the VMware Player sufficiently?
On my Windows box I have an AMD 3.2GHz quadcore processor with 16GB of ram, so I am wondering if that will be enough guts to run the VMware Player sufficiently?
Ray
That should be a great configuration. None of my machines have more than 8GB and they do fine hosting VMs. Just don't get carried away with bunches of VMs running at once. I usually just have one guest running at a time.
First impressions:
VMware Player is an amazing piece of software. The last time I used it, maybe eight years ago, was not such a great experience.
I installed kubuntu 32-bit, and then went ahead and installed SimpleIDE-0-9-45. The install process could be somewhat confusing for somebody trying it out for the first time. When you extract the files, yes there is a setup.sh file, good so far. When you do the instructed 'sudo ./setup.sh', that also works, but from here you get a little confused because the next set of instructions, ./simpleide do not work, because there is no simpleide.sh in that folder. So, now you have to figure out where simpleide.sh is located.
Now, I found simpleide.sh, in the bin folder, and I do a ./simpleide as instructed, you get nothing, you have to do a 'sudo ./simpleide.sh' to get the ball rolling. From here it is very straight forward, the SimpleIDE program starts, and you are all set. So, now when you have to start up another session you still have to start up a terminal session, go to the bin folder, and do a 'sudo ./simpleide.sh', because the SimpleIDE icon in your desktop session, in the bin folder, even though it is set for execute, will not start when you click it, probably because you have to be a superuser, I guess.
Even in the 32-bit session, the instructions could be much better, and you should be able to find a SimpleIDE icon in a more suitable folder, one that really starts, in the user mode. If I had too give this session a grade, unfortunately, I would have to give it a big D, and I have had some experience with SimpleIDE.
I'm not sure. The version of Chrome I have installed here came from Google https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb and politely installed itself out of the way to /opt/google/chrome. I did not have to mess with the apt source list so it had no chance to mess with anything.
I used that because the Debian package you get with "apt-get install chromium" despite claiming to be built from the same source code version cannot post to the forums correctly!
Now, I found simpleide.sh, in the bin folder, and I do a ./simpleide as instructed, you get nothing
Right, because "./simpleide" says, look in this folder. Do the instructions say to use "./simpleide" instead of "simpleide" ? Leave off the ./ and it should work. What happens if you do this ? "which simpleide"
Downloaded your file and copied it to my home folder using Iceweasel and the GUI file dialog.
Opened a terminal window and did the following:
chris@debian:~$ sudo tar -xjf SimpleIDE-0-9-47.x86_64.debian-linux.tar.bz2
[sudo] password for chris:
chris@debian:~$ cd SimpleIDE-0-9-47
chris@debian:~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47$ sudo ./setup.sh $USER
Installing ./simpleide as chris
Found /opt/parallax/bin
On first run ./simpleide will install ~/Documents/SimpleIDE .
Remove ~/Documents/SimpleIDE to get a new copy of the workspace.
Previous users should remove ~/.config/ParallaxInc/SimpleIDE.conf .
Setup complete. To run program use: ./simpleide
chris@debian:~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47$ ./simpleide
It ran with no errors.
I should note that I had previously done the following so I can use sudo:
$ su
Password: (enter root password)
# gpasswd -a chris sudo
Added user chris to group sudo
Comments
Ray
You can also do a "ldd --version" which gives me this:
So I'm at 2.17
In your case it's the 64 bit version (amd64) from here: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
When I install Debian from such an image I don not let it install any desktop or apps. Just a minimal boot to command line.
Then I can get the kde-plasma desk top and whatever else I need. No junk.
The nice thing about this is that not only do yon not need to wast time downloading three DVDs worth of junk but you also don't have spend ages whilst it upgrades everything to the latest versions when you have it running.
I made notes for myself about my Debian install, in case I need to do it again in a hurry, here: http://the.linuxd.org/debian-installation-log/
There are notes on a lot of stuff you won't want there but the basics are in good shape I think.
Ah, Oh s..t. Depending on your printer you will have major problems no matter what desktop you use.
Last year I wasted a whole working day getting the Cannon network printer to work from my Debian box in our office. It took a lot of Googling and experimenting and fishing around in Cannon's really unhelpful downloads pages.
I have notes about that if you happen to have a similar printer.
My consolation was that my colleague took even longer to get his Windows machine to talk to that same printer
chris@debian:~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin$ ldd --verbose libquazip.so.1
./libquazip.so.1: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./libquazip.so.1)
linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff67b87000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f9244026000)
libQtCore.so.4 => not found
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f9243e09000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f9243b02000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f9243880000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f9243669000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f92432de000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f9244476000)
Version information:
./libquazip.so.1:
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.14) => not found
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (CXXABI_1.3) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (GLIBCXX_3.4) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6:
libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_4.2.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
chris@debian:~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin$
This s getting very confusing. According to the Debian packages pages: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy
libc6 and libc-bin are at 2.13-38+deb7u1
However I have libc6:amd64 at 2.18-1, and libc-bin at 2.13-38+deb7u1
I'm starting to wonder where all this junk comes from
I also remember trying to do a network install, what a disaster that turned out to be, I do not trust myself too try that again. I just maybe wasting more time than the actual three DVD downloads.
y
Ray
Not same here:
~/propeller/propside/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin$ ldd --verbose libquazip.so.1
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fff40ee3000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007fb8c92f1000)
libQtCore.so.4 => ./libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007fb8c8e1d000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fb8c8bff000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fb8c88f8000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007fb8c85f5000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fb8c83de000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fb8c8035000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fb8c7e31000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007fb8c7c28000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fb8c7930000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fb8c9742000)
libpcre.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3 (0x00007fb8c76f2000)
Version information:
./libquazip.so.1:
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.14) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (CXXABI_1.3) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (GLIBCXX_3.4) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
./libQtCore.so.4:
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
librt.so.1 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
libdl.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (CXXABI_1.3) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (GLIBCXX_3.4) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.9) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.14) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6:
libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_4.2.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1:
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.14) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0:
librt.so.1 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.3.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.7) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.9) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.8) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.4) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
What do you guys get when you do this:
rapost@c3po ~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin $ /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 GNU C Library (Debian EGLIBC 2.17-92) stable release version 2.17, by Roland McGrath et al. Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. Compiled by GNU CC version 4.7.3. Compiled on a Linux 3.10.3 system on 2013-08-01. Available extensions: crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al BIND-8.2.3-T5B libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>. rapost@c3po ~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47/bin $As you can see, I get 2.17 as the EGLIBC version. I would expect Chris to get something older than 2.14 and Heater to get something newer than 2.14 (same with Ray, probably something older than 2.14)
Which is kind of odd as that is a version from testing (sid). How did I get infected with that?
Just a cutting edge kind of guy!!
I don't know if I can find a manifest of some sort for Linux Mint to see if 2.17 is the standard or if I picked it up during some other install. I could just install it on my netbook and see what it comes with out of the box.
Can Ray and Chris just do an apt-get update, then an upgrade or is any libc newer than 2.13 just not in Debian yet (seems strange since I'm at 2.17 and Mint is Debian)
This is why Chip wants to make a Propeller Computer. It's not just a Zombie Apocalypse kind of thing.
...but we fan still use them when that Zombie Apocalypse thing goes down, right?
I could go for a P2 with a Propeller version of Pnut an a nice little terminal connected to the Px you are programming...because soon you will be able to run a multi-user time sharing system on your P2 that rivals Compuserve and AOL!!
At some point I decided I wanted FireFox on my machine not that stupid IceWeasle that comes with Debian.
To do that I installed FireFox from a Mint repository.
Bad idea. I believe that has pulled in a lot of fundamental package upgrades that should not be there in a Wheezy system.
So, to save every body a lot of hassle I'm going to nuke my installation and start again with a virgin Debian 7. And build SimpleIDE again.
This poses the question of how to get a current version of FireFox with out messing up the OS? A mere app should not require that.
This might take a little while....
I'm not sure. The version of Chrome I have installed here came from Google https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb and politely installed itself out of the way to /opt/google/chrome. I did not have to mess with the apt source list so it had no chance to mess with anything.
I used that because the Debian package you get with "apt-get install chromium" despite claiming to be built from the same source code version cannot post to the forums correctly!
Yes!
This was one of the "Chrome on Linux" problems I had. I suppose chromium isn't chrome though. Oh well.
That Chrome and forum posting problem bugged me for ages. Some times it worked, on other machines it did not. For the exact same version. Then it clicked , the Debian package is broken. The one from Google is OK.
I made some notes about that Chrome install here: http://the.linuxd.org/debian-installation-log/
Read quick before I nuke this box. That won't happen tonight though.
I can't imagine how the Android user interface makes any sense with a tool like SimpleIDE.
Having said that I have managed, a long while ago, to get Qt apps compiled and running under Android. And now Android is a fully supported platform for Qt. So take the source, get he Android SDK, and compile away.
Personally I would put Debian on a machine like the odroid. For sure SimpleIDE can be built to run on that. As it can for the Raspberry Pi and some other ARM boards I have here.
Jazzed, sorry if I'm being presumptuous with the "no" there.
I must have picked up 2.17 through some other install.
Anyway, out of the can it's 2.13-38
So yes, what was it we installed that messed with that?
Currently my suspicion is the version of FireFox that I snagged from a Mint repository.
It for sure was not Google Chrome (from Google not the Debian package) that is here already with no ill effect.
Note to self: Never ever put any foreign distro repository in the /etc/apt/sources.list. Probably never ever put any testing repos there either.
Now to get back to out normal program of SimpleIDE building:)
On my Windows box I have an AMD 3.2GHz quadcore processor with 16GB of ram, so I am wondering if that will be enough guts to run the VMware Player sufficiently?
Ray
That should be a great configuration. None of my machines have more than 8GB and they do fine hosting VMs. Just don't get carried away with bunches of VMs running at once. I usually just have one guest running at a time.
VMware Player is an amazing piece of software. The last time I used it, maybe eight years ago, was not such a great experience.
I installed kubuntu 32-bit, and then went ahead and installed SimpleIDE-0-9-45. The install process could be somewhat confusing for somebody trying it out for the first time. When you extract the files, yes there is a setup.sh file, good so far. When you do the instructed 'sudo ./setup.sh', that also works, but from here you get a little confused because the next set of instructions, ./simpleide do not work, because there is no simpleide.sh in that folder. So, now you have to figure out where simpleide.sh is located.
Now, I found simpleide.sh, in the bin folder, and I do a ./simpleide as instructed, you get nothing, you have to do a 'sudo ./simpleide.sh' to get the ball rolling. From here it is very straight forward, the SimpleIDE program starts, and you are all set. So, now when you have to start up another session you still have to start up a terminal session, go to the bin folder, and do a 'sudo ./simpleide.sh', because the SimpleIDE icon in your desktop session, in the bin folder, even though it is set for execute, will not start when you click it, probably because you have to be a superuser, I guess.
Even in the 32-bit session, the instructions could be much better, and you should be able to find a SimpleIDE icon in a more suitable folder, one that really starts, in the user mode. If I had too give this session a grade, unfortunately, I would have to give it a big D, and I have had some experience with SimpleIDE.
Ray
Chome is starting to take over as my main browser; I used to use FireFox almost exclusively.
Right, because "./simpleide" says, look in this folder. Do the instructions say to use "./simpleide" instead of "simpleide" ? Leave off the ./ and it should work. What happens if you do this ? "which simpleide"
I have posted a new build of SimpleIDE for 64 bit Debian Wheezy https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81267937/SimpleIDE-0-9-47.x86_64.debian-linux.tar.bz2
Sorry it has the same name as the old broken one. (Just to avoid confusion
This has been built on a totally fresh installation of Debian 7 for amd64 so it has no excuse to not work!
Thanks Heater!
Here is EXACTLY how I installed it:
Downloaded your file and copied it to my home folder using Iceweasel and the GUI file dialog.
Opened a terminal window and did the following:
chris@debian:~$ sudo tar -xjf SimpleIDE-0-9-47.x86_64.debian-linux.tar.bz2
[sudo] password for chris:
chris@debian:~$ cd SimpleIDE-0-9-47
chris@debian:~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47$ sudo ./setup.sh $USER
Installing ./simpleide as chris
Found /opt/parallax/bin
On first run ./simpleide will install ~/Documents/SimpleIDE .
Remove ~/Documents/SimpleIDE to get a new copy of the workspace.
Previous users should remove ~/.config/ParallaxInc/SimpleIDE.conf .
Setup complete. To run program use: ./simpleide
chris@debian:~/SimpleIDE-0-9-47$ ./simpleide
It ran with no errors.
I should note that I had previously done the following so I can use sudo:
$ su
Password: (enter root password)
# gpasswd -a chris sudo
Added user chris to group sudo
You need to log out and back in after this.
Thanks again Heater.
Chris Wardell