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Languages - Propeller SPIN and C

LawrencLLawrencL Posts: 49
edited 2013-12-20 20:36 in General Discussion
Are these the same thing?

If not, how are they different?

Thanks,

LawrencL

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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-12-19 13:44
    No they are not.

    If you are new to programming and new to the Propeller micro-controller in particular I would suggest getting to grips with Spin.
    Spin is very simple and the manual is very good.

    When you have questions about it many here will be glad to help.
  • Jen J.Jen J. Posts: 649
    edited 2013-12-19 16:07
    There is an excellent new writeup on our Learn site about Parallax microcontroller languages: http://learn.parallax.com/teach/microcontroller-language-options
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-19 16:33
    Heater. wrote: »
    Spin is very simple and the manual is very good..

    Heater - I'm interested in learning Spin. Of what manual do you speak?
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-12-19 19:26
    Of what manual do you speak?
    Maybe this one or this one?????
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-19 20:26
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    Maybe this one or this one?????

    Thanks Andy. I read the first one you referenced and it didn't "float my boat". The writer's approach and my way of learning were not compatible.

    I'll check out your second reference.
  • JonnyMacJonnyMac Posts: 9,107
    edited 2013-12-20 08:53
    I write about Propeller programming (mostly Spin with some PASM) for Nuts & Volts magazine -- these articles from my column may be helpful as they are project based.

    -- http://classic.parallax.com/tabid/781/Default.aspx


    The Propeller Manual and the Propeller Education Kit documentation are installed with the Propeller Tool. You can access these PDFs through the Help menu.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2013-12-20 08:54
    The SPIN tutorial in the first version of the Propeller Manual is pretty good for getting started.
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-20 09:23
    JonnyMac wrote: »
    I write about Propeller programming (mostly Spin with some PASM) for Nuts & Volts magazine -- these articles from my column may be helpful as they are project based.

    The Propeller Manual and the Propeller Education Kit documentation are installed with the Propeller Tool. You can access these PDFs through the Help menu.

    ...thanky Sir.
  • dgatelydgately Posts: 1,630
    edited 2013-12-20 09:25
    Not a tutorial, but I always have the Propeller Reference Manual (saved in PDF form for quick access) open in the background when I'm coding in Spin (or asm)...

    http://www.parallax.com/downloads/p8x32a-propeller-manual

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  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-20 09:29
    RDL2004 wrote: »
    The SPIN tutorial in the first version of the Propeller Manual is pretty good for getting started.

    Rick - when you say "first version", what's that?

    I've found that any of the "Propeller Manuals" are just references with no tutorial (aka "how to"). Am I missing something?
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-20 09:32
    @LawrencL - sorry, I seem to have hijacked your thread.

    I'll stop now.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2013-12-20 13:29
    Dave,

    Check out post #3 of my index. There are links to a bunch of Spin and PASM tutorials.

    I second the Spin Zone comment and the first Propeller manual comment(links to both in my index).

    The Spin Zone articles on PASM where probably the largest single contributor to my learning to use PASM (though the other sources of info were also important).
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-20 14:45
    ...thanks Duane. Nice list of topics. :thumb:

    It would seem that version 1.01 of the Propeller Manual has good stuff that version 1.1 and greater does not, namely the tutorial. I find that odd and it explains why I found the current version lacking.

    Anyway, I'll go away for a while and read that chapter 3 tutorial.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-12-20 15:06
    davejames wrote: »
    Rick - when you say "first version", what's that?

    I've found that any of the "Propeller Manuals" are just references with no tutorial (aka "how to"). Am I missing something?

    Yes you are. The Propeller Manual Ver 1.01 and earlier included a whole chapter that was a Spin tutorial. In later revisions, the tutorial was removed and an abbreviated version of it was included in the Propeller Tool in an Html version.

    I actually have excerpted that Chapter and migrated it to a pdf for my own reading.
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    Propeller_Tutorial_1.01.pdf
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  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-20 15:30
    Loopy Byteloose wrote: »
    Yes you are..


    Soooo, some of the most useful information was moved to the least obvious location... :confused: :swear: :blush:


    Anyway - yes Loopy - I did what you did, and I have a copy of that section still warm from the printer. I was just PM'ing with Duane saying I now understand cognew. Amazing what happens when having something to read in hand.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-12-20 15:44
    Wonderful.... I created the pdf file just so I could easily print the whole tutorial. I have been reluctant to share it because it doesn't have the front page material about copyrights, author, and publisher.

    But since I use LInux and Brad's Spin Tool, I don't have the PropTool Html version available.
  • CircuitsoftCircuitsoft Posts: 1,166
    edited 2013-12-20 17:02
    I converted the PropTool HTML version to an ePub eBook. Would you find that helpful?

    Edit: It's Here
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2013-12-20 20:36
    Circuitsoft wrote: »
    I converted the PropTool HTML version to an ePub eBook. Would you find that helpful?

    Edit: It's Here

    Thanks much, but it blew up just after "Spin Lesson 3: Structuring Code", with some sort of "not found/try again" message.
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