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My Calculus Professor denied me of my DSPS accommodation for video recorded lectures

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  • CircuitsoftCircuitsoft Posts: 1,166
    edited 2012-05-14 18:16
    Ask the teacher if you can take a picture of the whiteboard each time before he erases something. That way you'll have a sequenced set of images to take notes from, and (sh)he has a guarantee that (s)he won't show up on film since (s)he can get out of the way before you take a picture.

    By your mention of the Hitachi StarBoard, though, I suppose they already have them, and could do so if they so chose?
  • lardomlardom Posts: 1,659
    edited 2012-05-14 21:24
    This is only an opinion but the only reason that seems legitimate is that they wouldn't want the video published. It's for your personal use. I'm certain a teacher with Aspergers has required accomodations.
  • Capt. QuirkCapt. Quirk Posts: 872
    edited 2012-05-15 10:45
    As adult learners many see us and think that autism/aspergers/ADD are kids only issues and
    that just ain't so. But it makes it so much harder to get the services and accomodations.
    Frank

    Frank, I believe many people see this as a kids issue for 2 reasons: (1) Because we develop
    "life skills" as we get older. (2) In general people with learning disabilities often have average or
    above average intelligence, and difficulty in one or more basic neurological functions
    (Nolting, 2000).

    For example, I had development issues since kindergarten, and went through special ed. English, math
    and science classes were my worst classes in high school. When I took the entrance exams at
    RCC, I started at the bottom. At RCC I pursued a "trade certificate" and the certificate program
    had general ed requirements. I flunked english, and nearly flunked the math class titled "how to use a calculator."

    Fast forward to 2008, and my entrance exams placed me into the RCC Honors Program, because
    of my life skills.

    Also in 2008, I was finally tested for my learning disabilities, and it showed that I have a strong point too.
    My "Perceptual Organization" skills are within the top six percentile. I believe this represents my "verbal
    intelligence," and is why people are so quick to judge me, and they dismiss my slow "Processing Speed" that
    is in the bottom six percentile.





    Nolting PH.D, Pual D. Mathmatics and Learning Disabilities: A Guide to Processing Defecits and Accommodations.
    Bradenton: Academic Success, 2000. Print.
  • Capt. QuirkCapt. Quirk Posts: 872
    edited 2012-05-15 13:34
    teachers are within their rights to disallow video and/or audio recordings

    Are you sure about this? This is exactly what my professor said. Can you explain any further?

    I researched my LD’s thoroughly—about 1 ½ years ago and I found this book—Mathematics and Learning
    Disabilities Handbook: Guide to processing deficits and accommodations, By Paul Nolting, PH.D.

    In this book I found someone that understood LD’s, and according to this book; (1) video recording a
    lecture is considered a reasonable accommodation when the book was published in 2000.
    (2) That a DSPS student with verified LD’s right to accommodation is greater than a teacher’s right to
    academic freedom.

    I can understand the need to protect teachers from malicious intent by students. But I don't
    understand why teachers rights would exclude the needs of DSPS students for reasonable
    accommodation. Especially because DSPS guidelines, and rules to prevent malicious intent.
  • Capt. QuirkCapt. Quirk Posts: 872
    edited 2012-05-15 13:55
    Heater. wrote: »
    I'm generally against the note taking idea. It actually diverts your train of
    thought from the flow of the topic at the time and makes it harder to keep up in real time and enjoy the journey.

    I agree

    But I tried asking for their lecture notes before video recording. The reason the
    lecture is so important, is because I can't finish my homework in time. As a
    result, it is difficult to develop the recognition skills for solving problems used in
    tests. Skills most students learn by repetition, by completing their homework, and
    extra examples. The lecture is my only time to recognize what the teacher will
    include in their tests.
  • Capt. QuirkCapt. Quirk Posts: 872
    edited 2012-05-21 12:49
    I would like to thank: Potatohead, Frank Freedman, Phil Pilgrim, Invent-O-Doc, DaveJames, jrjr,
    ElectricAye, Tobdec, Heater, Bill190, Peter KG6LSE, GordonMcComb, Prof_Braino, W9GFO,
    CircuitSoft and Lardom for offering their opinions and insight regarding both sides of this problem.


    I believe that your combined help allowed me to write an objective complaint about a student, and
    a professor with their own separate disabilities. I filled the complaint with the Dept. of Education's,
    Office for Civil Rights.

    I requested that my accommodations will be ready for me, by the fall semester. And that, the
    same accommodation will be available for other DSPS students that are struggling with algebra
    or math in general, so they can earn their AA.

    My city college has spent a lot of money on educational technologies like the Hitachi SmartBoards
    and StarBoards (interactive white boards). But nobody uses them, and maybe now they will start.
    Or perhaps they will give out lecture notes prior to a class. Anything that prevents a student from
    not being able to keep up with a lecture, and promotes a students self confidence to help them to
    "enjoy the journey" (Heater)

    Ultimately I hope the rights of a tenured professor, and a DSPS student on our campus, finds some sort
    of new equilibrium.

    Thanks Again

    Sincerely

    Bill M.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2012-05-21 16:42
    You have my total support Bill !

    Peter.
  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2012-05-21 23:08
    Anytime Bill, anytime. If anything, I believe that this thread helped you to review multiple facets of a very involved problem and categorize the possible solutions, costs, and outcomes. As a parent (mentioned earlier here), I run across many different forums, postings and so forth. Many people let the tree in front of them over-run their appreciation of the forest they find themselves in and as a result panic, and go off on tangents that make them look like total whack jobs. Which does nothing for their credibility or ability to frame an argument in a reasonable and well thought out manner.

    I would guess that after this thread, much thought and additional research, your filing will present a well reasoned argument in your favor, with clear and accurate observations, rational examination of all of the facts and potential remedies as you perceive them to be and will be received as a very credible document rather than the rantings of an irrational individual with an ax to grind.

    All the best in your continuing journey,

    Frank Freedman
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2012-05-22 08:48
    ...much success to you!

    DJ
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