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  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 06:38
    I personally do not understand why everyone is jumping on his case, irregardless of whether there is any validity to his claims. At the very least, he has a very wild and vivid imagination, and personally I think he should be applauded for that.

    In the past, there have been complaints about not posting general chatter in the technical forums, and obviously, his post is within the "General Discussion" forum. Everyone else says whatever they want in this forum. What makes Humanoido any different from anyone else on what he gets to post here? Not that I believe everything he says, but some of it is interesting, and some of it is humorous. In my opinion, he is a very gifted and talented writer. As far as affecting young people, his input could only have a positive effect on young readers. Young people should use their imaginations to the fullest extent and dream away, think about the what ifs, and what can be accomplished with the Propeller chip. Even if all his claims are fictional, I am sure there are some young people that may be inspired by his visions.

    Additionally, in the past, someone called him out about his claims, and asked him to put a disclaimer on his website about the validity of his claims, which he politely provided. If you don't like his posts, then don't read them. Why come into the thread and bash his head around. The bullies in the forum need to be more aggressive with their projects instead of being aggressive toward contributing forum members.

    Just my opinion.

    Bruce

    P.S. Remember H.G. Wells, author of "War of the Worlds". How many times was the radio broadcast interrupted to say "This is all a hoax, please remain calm"?

    EDIT: In fact, his disclaimer is everywhere within his blog.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-04-04 07:03
    Maybe think of it as the Humanoido Art Project???



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  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2012-04-04 07:06
    idbruce wrote: »
    If you don't like his posts, then don't read them.

    I always think when I see someone say this "If you don't like what I wrote about someone's post, don't read it."

    The original poster has managed to fool several people into thinking he's done significant work with the Propeller. I'm always very glad when Phil points out the weaknesses of his claims.

    The counter argument is often about "wearing dresses" or "liking girly cards."
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 07:14
    Duane
    I'm always very glad when Phil points out the weaknesses of his claims.

    Non-fictional claims should be challenged if they are not technically correct, but to challenge fictional claims is absurd.

    I am just saying that everyone jumped his case, and I think it was uncalled for.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2012-04-04 07:25
    idbruce wrote: »
    Duane



    Non-fictional claims should be challenged if they are not technically correct, but to challenge fictional claims is absurd.

    I am just saying that everyone jumped his case, and I think it was uncalled for.

    I don't see anywhere in his disclaimer or OP in this thread where he states his claims are fictional.

    From his disclaimer:
    If a great deal of imagination is presented, it does not indicate anything less than the intention to explore science fact.
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 07:30
    Duane

    Why should he? You decide :) You are intellegent, make a rational decision :)

    Is his content fiction or non-fiction?

    Bruce
  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2012-04-04 07:32
    Bruce, Here is the disclaimer. http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/disclaimer.html

    What a bunch of double-speak.

    And here is one small section
    Bearing & Intent of Scientific Fact
    ...The Brain has bearing and intent of science fact, as the highly creative science of Big Brain and its projects are real - they function, have rooted foundation, boot when they need to boot, perform, operate at their intended levels, have purpose and need, and also some projects may be represented by abstract concepts that require vision...
    

    "has bearing and INTENT of science fact" - What does this mean ?
    "it's projects are real - they function" - Really ???
    "some projects may be represented by abstract concepts that require vision." - What does this mean ? I guess I don't have the "required vision" to understand...

    Bean
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 07:36
    Bean

    LOL - Yes I know it is jibberish, but that was his intent. He wants you to decide on your own.

    Bruce
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 07:47
    Okay, here is my take on the whole issue, of course I could be wrong.

    I believe it is all fictional, or at the very least mostly fictional. In fact, the tower image that he uses for his avatar, well I believe it is just a prop for his literary work.

    Bruce
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2012-04-04 07:50
    idbruce wrote: »
    Duane

    Why should he? You decide :) You are intellegent, make a rational decision :)

    Is his content fiction or non-fiction?

    Bruce

    Yes, I have decided and I feel free to tell others with less technical savy that I don't see real science being done on his blog.

    You may think his blog is a good example of writing. I think it is a very bad example of writing.

    It is a good example of using many words to say very little.

    I think his writing hides truth rather than brings it to light.

    I would rather have not said so much about this. I do want, as Phil put it "our more credulous younger members" to know my opinion about this.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-04-04 07:51
    It is not necessary for the public to know whether I am joking or whether I am serious, just as it is not necessary for me to know it myself.

    - Salvador Dali in his Diary of a Genius (1964)

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  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2012-04-04 07:55
    This is going to require a second bowl of popcorn. :)
  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
    edited 2012-04-04 07:55
    Why continue to stream fiction in a forum that is dedicated to the informational and educational purposes of Parallax products? Should anyone that wants to just start posting random poetry, music, funny kitten and puppy youtube videos, because they think it is art? Plenty of rappers are genuinely imaginative, and they are and should be applauded for it, but should we be posting rap songs here next if that is the criteria for posts?

    It is NOT the role of forum users dedicated to a product line to determine if jibberish is fictional or not. That is maybe a role for children with not much else to do but kill time during the day.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-04-04 08:04
    T Chap wrote: »
    Why continue to stream fiction in a forum that is dedicated to the informational and educational purposes of Parallax products? ....

    I haven't the faintest idea what Humanoido is doing. But at least he's doing it with Parallax products. If you think what he's doing is crazy, you should see some of the requests I get from "artists" who want me to help them paint the Mona Lisa in bioluminescent microbes. Or how about some "artist" who wants to isolate the microbe from human intestines that makes fart gas, so he can grow giant vats of it, enough to power a small motor vehicle. On the spectrum of crazy, I'd say Humanoido is at least still in the visible range. That's better than a lot of scientists I know.
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 08:05
    T Chap

    His art (literary ebodiment of his work) is based upon a Parallax product, namely the Propeller chip. I would imagine, his blog has directed traffic to the Parallax website, which I would assume has resulted in some sales. I would be interested to look at the server logs for parallax.com to see how many users arrived here from Humanoidos blog, and then I am sure there is also visitor tracking, so I would further be interested to see if those visitors made any purchases.

    Bruce
  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
    edited 2012-04-04 08:18
    Ok, so let's say that I state that I have a Propeller that is controlling the IRS databases, including refunds, collection processes, etc, and I post weekly starting today the IRS monthly dollar receipts, projects for subsequent quarters, outstanding moneys owed per quarter, and other stats that I allude to are all being done with a Propeller, does that REALLY benefit the Propeller in any way that I am lying about it and stating that the Propeller is really controlling the IRS computer systems?

    Electric eye, he has already stated that the NULT is not in fact using the Propeller. His own words, not mine.

    The ultimate effect is being achieved by Humanoido in these posts: distraction, confusion, all purely to feed his ego and attention seeking purposes.

    idbruce, so you approve of blatantly false marketing claims just to drive traffic to Parallax? In that case Parallax is really dropping the ball and should get it together. They should run weekly contests here to see how many users will post up false claims on youtube just to drive traffic. Somewhere integrity and truthfulness must have a roll. These posts are beyond 'artistic license'.
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 08:31
    T Chap

    I am sure there are other goals, but the main goal of being in business is to make money.

    Besides being in a few retail outlets, Parallax's main income is probably generated by visitors to their web site who make purchases. As I mentioned in another post, content is king, and he definitely provides content.

    For instance, let's say a person performs a Google search on the NULT telescope, and within the results that show up is a link to the Parallax forum because Humanoido referenced it in a post.

    Is that a bad thing? I don't think so.

    In order for a business to make a sale, the customer must walk through the door. And all contributions made by each and everyone of us to this forum help to bring those customers to Parallax's front door, including Humanoido.

    Bruce
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2012-04-04 08:38
    T Chap wrote: »
    Somewhere integrity and truthfulness must have a roll.

    Absolutely!
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 08:42
    I would imagine that Parallax has reviewed whether his content is beneficial or detrimental to the success of Parallax.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2012-04-04 09:32
    T Chap wrote: »
    funny kitten and puppy youtube videos

    I'm okay with funny kitten videos, but NOT cuddly puppy videos. We have to draw the line somewhere.

    -- Gordon
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2012-04-04 09:47
    Whats wrong with Cuddly Puppies?...
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  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 09:54
    And most certainly not videos of cuddly poodle puppies!!!

    Just kidding Ttailspin :)
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2012-04-04 09:57
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2012-04-04 10:05
    I like Humanoido's posts. We use science fiction as the source of ideas and a direction to move towards, and his posts are inspiring and thought provoking.

    I don't see a difference between his posts and the Sci-fi section at your local book store. Both have outlandish ideas presented as fact, and both can be inspiring.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2012-04-04 14:03
    It's clearly a fictional work, and that's fine as far it goes.

    But here's the thing: most of NASA's photos are in the public domain, so they can be used for most any purpose, even without attribution. Humanoido does credit NASA, though almost always last, as if that's as much as their contribution permits. What I object to is that even in fictional works like movies there's usually a more generous word of thanks somewhere in the credits. All the more so because American taxpayers paid for the real-world equipment that took the original photos. And then we have the countless creative and skilled men and women who have spent decades developing the systems that provided the scientific background used in his posts. By not providing true and fitting credit, this contribution is not only minimized, it's practically belittled.

    I just feel that in the blog disclaimer page there should be some real heart-felt thanks to those who contributed the major portion of the work involved. In all, I find the blog disparaging to the true creators of the images. The fact that the US government releases most of NASA's photos into the public domain should not be a license to claim credit where it's not due.

    -- Gordon
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2012-04-04 14:28
    I had to come back to this thread. Now that I know that there is nothing of substance behind all this I'm a little annoyed.

    All it would take is a better DISCLAIMER. Not that hard man. Just do it and everyone will be happy. Your work is cool but your claims are downright lies. You can turn your lies into art or whatever you want by simply stating it's .01% complete project.
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2012-04-04 17:42
    @Publison,:thumb::thumb: Direct hit.. My wife is still cracking up.:lol:

    @SLRM, :thumb::thumb: Science Fiction is fun

    @GordonMcComb:thumb::thumb: Credit where credit is due.

    @Ttailspin:blank::blank: Go eat dinner...


    -Tommy
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-04-04 17:46
    I just wanted to come back and say I was wrong. :)

    It was announced several times during the broadcast that it was a hoax :)

    Very interesting read: http://history1900s.about.com/od/1930s/a/warofworlds.htm
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2012-04-04 18:04
    I love that story, It created all kinds of chaos, and it started a sci-fi frenzy.
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2012-04-04 21:14
    This thread has gotten way off topic and is closed at this point ...
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