Awesome mindrobots. Let me help you with that, I already have some BoM lists, and can certainly look after the Aust/NZ board boms.
I've used the Mouser kit facility but not the Digikey. I'll ask my E14 rep what they have that may do the same job.
I received the Mouser kit Jonnymac put up for his CanBus project a few months ago. One really nice feature is that there is a user comment that actually gets printed on the bags that turn up from Mouser. So you could put a comment like "TSSOP EEPROM for UND3RB3LLY pcb" and it's very clear what the part is for when building the kit (now or when you're scratching your head 2 years hence).
Just a quick question - I ordered this and received - is this thread going to contain pointers to all the boards and schematics? I have found several but not all of them.
Just a quick question - I ordered this and received - is this thread going to contain pointers to all the boards and schematics? I have found several but not all of them.
Thanks in advance
If you don't mind my asking. (offtopic) Did the two halves of the board arrive without fracturing into smaller pieces? (A concern of mine)
Just a quick question - I ordered this and received - is this thread going to contain pointers to all the boards and schematics? I have found several but not all of them.
Thanks in advance
Hi Yoda
Yes I will be updating the top thread with links to what exists in the next week or two, and working with Mindrobots on some Mouser BoM kits for easy ordering. There will also be a wikispace linked to the main propeller wikispace, but I think linking back to the forums is best for updated schematics and source files.
In the mean time if you want any details just ask here and specify which board you want to build up, and I'll help where I can.
I've recently started using DipTrace to make a few boards and these PCB are a great way for me to see how to design a Propeller board.
Earlier this evening I was trying to think of a small Propeller board to use with a GPS logger I'm going to build. I thought I'd likely use one of Tubular's Und3rb3lly boards. I still might use the Underbelly, but now I have lots of options to choose from.
Thank you to all those willing to share your Propeller designs.
I'm looking forward to seeing those BOMs. I know I'll want to populate a lot of these boards.
This is very exciting.
If any of you are thinking of learning to design PCBs, you ought to buy a set of these boards. There are lots of great examples of how to make a Propeller circuit board.
Thank you Tubular for putting these all together.
Thank you Jeff and GG for being willing to take care of shipping the boards (mine also arrived safe and sound).
Tubular (Lachlan) did a great job in putting all these boards together. I think we were all quite happy to contribute to this project.
There is a nice tiny PropPlug there of mine that can also provide 5V (from the USB) and has a combined LED for TX & RX. I have found this a great aid to see what is happening.
My other two boards (CpuBlade & MemBlade stacked will make a RamBlade3 that has 512KB 55ns SRAM and microSD)
I was hoping to claim the 3 smallest boards, but I was outdone by a Prop QFN board that I am struggling to see, let alone work out what it does. Whose board is it???
That small QFN board is one of 2 I created to fill in the space after all the other boards were fit.
It's really very user unfriendly. I think it has 6 easily accessible gpio, good enough for tv or monochrome VGA out, and a single eeprom on board. Comes out to a DIP8 header underneath. There are other I/O along the castellated edges, they can be soldered to a 0.05" pitch standard ribbon cable, and broken out to IDC from there...
I tried to reflow the Prop QFN but it went for a slide and soldered at a severe offset. Might have another go at it later once I'm better at reflowing.
My M44D40+ module has it's own thread here, and I will throw the current DipTrace file onto it as well. I have no problem passing out the design to anyone.
I have linked to the Smorgasboard wiki from the propeller wiki.
The wiki is not finished. I am having trouble uploading the source files (.Zip). The photos are a bit squashed in proportion and some are missing or outdated. If you are the author of a design feel free to update it with better photos, links, source files etc. We'll be adding BoM kits and links soon too. If you feel inspired to contribute to the wiki, don't hold back!
@ WBA the hotspot idea is a great one. I'm not sure whether it can be done easily with the wiki, but its worth checking out.
@ Jim I'm not sure either - I will email Hanno
Lol, thanks Jazzed. The (unofficial) slogan for tubular controls is "We've see the future, and it's totally tubular". People of a certain age (or nerdiness) get it just fine.
Hey got any photos of your assembled spinsockets? I'm sure they would look better on the wiki than the squashed images. The wiki seems to distort as you scale images up/down - the more scaling the more it distorts the aspect ratio. Not sure why - it may be overcompensating for viewing on a widescreen or something. I think the answer is to prescale everything prior to upload.
Tubular, can I get permissions to edit the wiki. I must say I had a look at my entry and went "yuck". The PuppySolo is just that, a Puppy I/O module that's footprint compatible with a whole range of other modules plus it's designed to hook-up to the real world in terms of LEDS, switches, motors, solenoids etc WITHOUT any extra components. The VP pins are not used here as they are normally connected to the motor power supply for source drivers, steppers etc. The current limited I/O is limited with 220R resistors so that you can hook them up straight to LEDs or transistors or even feed audio directly out with an optional capacitor. There are four current limited I/O with 10K pullups that can be used for switches or general-purpose use.
The Puppy modules are slim enough to be side to side stackable so that the 0.1" pitch connectors may be butted together without a gap.
I've updated the Smorgasboard Wiki again with those changes for Martin and Peter
Membership - I thought was kind of automatic, but perhaps it relies on email invitation, so I'm emailing all contributors an invite. If anyone else would like an invitation, just ask.
If you have lots more information about your design, and how it may be applied, feel free to create a page just for that design. I did a sample page for Martin's ASC while playing around with the wiki features.
Oh if you've already created a wiki account and its not the same email address that I sent the email member request to, let me know your wiki username and I can request it that way instead
Sorry, I don't stop in very often anymore, but I did today and this thread caught my eye. It's great that the IO Dreamkit is out there available in some form to people now. I spent countless hours laying that out, I'm glad some people may be able to use it!
But 2 small errors I saw in the wiki about the IODreamKit.
It's Brian Meade not Brian Carpenter, and I used Eagle to lay it out, not diptrace.
Thanks for dropping by. We can fix the name mix-up. Do you have a BOM for the IODreamkit? We'd like to gather together the BOM for all the boards and make the parts kits available through Mouser and other suppliers offering the BOM services. If you do, you can either post it here and we'll find it or email it to Tubular or myself.
Thanks!!
I think a lot of these boards are going to be built - this may become a collector's item!
You're very welcome, Brian. I;m sorry about the mistakes, I will correct them straight away - would you prefer your real name or Parts-man73 in the credits?
Also, do you know if there is a BoM for it? There is already one user asking, and I'd love to build it too. I emailed Hanno but he is traveling at the moment. If there is a bom I hope to create a Mouser kit for easy ordering.
Sorry, I don't stop in very often anymore, but I did today and this thread caught my eye. It's great that the IO Dreamkit is out there available in some form to people now. I spent countless hours laying that out, I'm glad some people may be able to use it!
But 2 small errors I saw in the wiki about the IODreamKit.
It's Brian Meade not Brian Carpenter, and I used Eagle to lay it out, not diptrace.
It seems strange that Lachlan and I are following each other around the Internet from half a world away!! IF my memory was any worse, I'd start thinking I had already changed this......
Yeah the world suddenly shrinks doesn't it. I was editing the designs page just minutes before Jazzed was updating his Spinsocket photos.
I'll have a go tonight at creating some mouser kits for my own designs. I can do Phil's Propstick too, as I've built several and know it backwards. The mouser kits let you have your own "user description" for the parts, and I'd suggest we use the board name first, eg "PropStick - 5 MHz crystal " . The normal part details still appear on the mouser labels, this is just useful supplementary info that helps make kits easier to build
both of you please PM me your email addresses. I checked my mouser account, and was supprised to see it's still there and all my projects were still there.
Mouser has a great service, where you can store projects, including part numbers and quantities needed. When I was selling SpinStudio kits, I could simply select the project, multiply by the quantity I needed to make, and it dropped it into my shopping cart. I have the IODreamKit project that I can forward to you from mouser. Not all the parts are included in that. some of those small surface mount passives I just bought a reel off ebay, as you can normally find them for $10-20 for a whole reel of 5000
The crystal listed is wrong. I had a 5 mhz listed. The form factor is correct, but the speed is wrong for this board. I think at the time we comprimised with a 6 mhz crystal to run the board at 96 mhz, close to the rated speed of the fast ADC. 6 mhz was the best I could find in that size crystal. 6.25 would have been better.
oh also the fast ADC IC isn't available from mouser, so that's not in that project file either. It's a ADC08100 from National Semi
one other nitpicky thing about the wiki. There's no FET's. There is a ULN2803 for higher current output. - The parts you might have confused with FETs are Voltage Regulators
Comments
I've used the Mouser kit facility but not the Digikey. I'll ask my E14 rep what they have that may do the same job.
I received the Mouser kit Jonnymac put up for his CanBus project a few months ago. One really nice feature is that there is a user comment that actually gets printed on the bags that turn up from Mouser. So you could put a comment like "TSSOP EEPROM for UND3RB3LLY pcb" and it's very clear what the part is for when building the kit (now or when you're scratching your head 2 years hence).
I can do Mouser just as easily.....I'm not a big parts buyer, so I have no "rep"!
Any help would be appreciated for review and oversight, I have confidence I'll mess something up!!
Thanks in advance
If you don't mind my asking. (offtopic) Did the two halves of the board arrive without fracturing into smaller pieces? (A concern of mine)
OBC
Excellent! That's what I hoped! Thanks
Anyone who gets more than two halves on a single order, please let me know and how far the order traveled. Thanks!
OBC
Hi Yoda
Yes I will be updating the top thread with links to what exists in the next week or two, and working with Mindrobots on some Mouser BoM kits for easy ordering. There will also be a wikispace linked to the main propeller wikispace, but I think linking back to the forums is best for updated schematics and source files.
In the mean time if you want any details just ask here and specify which board you want to build up, and I'll help where I can.
They're beautiful!
It's been a lot of fun to look them over.
I've recently started using DipTrace to make a few boards and these PCB are a great way for me to see how to design a Propeller board.
Earlier this evening I was trying to think of a small Propeller board to use with a GPS logger I'm going to build. I thought I'd likely use one of Tubular's Und3rb3lly boards. I still might use the Underbelly, but now I have lots of options to choose from.
Thank you to all those willing to share your Propeller designs.
I'm looking forward to seeing those BOMs. I know I'll want to populate a lot of these boards.
This is very exciting.
If any of you are thinking of learning to design PCBs, you ought to buy a set of these boards. There are lots of great examples of how to make a Propeller circuit board.
Thank you Tubular for putting these all together.
Thank you Jeff and GG for being willing to take care of shipping the boards (mine also arrived safe and sound).
There is a nice tiny PropPlug there of mine that can also provide 5V (from the USB) and has a combined LED for TX & RX. I have found this a great aid to see what is happening.
My other two boards (CpuBlade & MemBlade stacked will make a RamBlade3 that has 512KB 55ns SRAM and microSD)
I was hoping to claim the 3 smallest boards, but I was outdone by a Prop QFN board that I am struggling to see, let alone work out what it does. Whose board is it???
It's really very user unfriendly. I think it has 6 easily accessible gpio, good enough for tv or monochrome VGA out, and a single eeprom on board. Comes out to a DIP8 header underneath. There are other I/O along the castellated edges, they can be soldered to a 0.05" pitch standard ribbon cable, and broken out to IDC from there...
I tried to reflow the Prop QFN but it went for a slide and soldered at a severe offset. Might have another go at it later once I'm better at reflowing.
There are some more details here
Several parts lists and drawings have been posted in this thread already.
Would be nice to have it all in one place eh?
My M44D40+ module has it's own thread here, and I will throw the current DipTrace file onto it as well. I have no problem passing out the design to anyone.
Would love to see the BOM for the I/O Dreamkit. I don't think Hanno or Brian ever published it.
Jim
The Smorgasboard Wiki is up and can be found here
http://smorgasboard.wikispaces.com/
A summary of the designs is here
http://smorgasboard.wikispaces.com/Designs
I have linked to the Smorgasboard wiki from the propeller wiki.
The wiki is not finished. I am having trouble uploading the source files (.Zip). The photos are a bit squashed in proportion and some are missing or outdated. If you are the author of a design feel free to update it with better photos, links, source files etc. We'll be adding BoM kits and links soon too. If you feel inspired to contribute to the wiki, don't hold back!
@ WBA the hotspot idea is a great one. I'm not sure whether it can be done easily with the wiki, but its worth checking out.
@ Jim I'm not sure either - I will email Hanno
(been waiting for the chance to do that.)
Thanks Lachlan!
Lol, thanks Jazzed. The (unofficial) slogan for tubular controls is "We've see the future, and it's totally tubular". People of a certain age (or nerdiness) get it just fine.
Hey got any photos of your assembled spinsockets? I'm sure they would look better on the wiki than the squashed images. The wiki seems to distort as you scale images up/down - the more scaling the more it distorts the aspect ratio. Not sure why - it may be overcompensating for viewing on a widescreen or something. I think the answer is to prescale everything prior to upload.
The Puppy modules are slim enough to be side to side stackable so that the 0.1" pitch connectors may be butted together without a gap.
PuppySolo (microSD visible underneath PCB)
The basic features are:
PINOUTS
5
VCC
---
1
VCC
2
VCC
---
17
GND
18
GND
4
TXD
---
3
VSS
4
VSS
---
19
NCH0
20
NCH1
3
RXD
---
5
P26
6
P27
---
21
NCH2
22
NCH3
2
RST
---
7
SCL
8
SDA
---
23
VP
24
VP
1
VSS
---
9
IO0
10
IO1
---
25
GND
26
GND
---
11
IO2
12
IO3
---
27
IO15
28
IO14
---
13
IO4
14
IO5
---
29
IO13
30
IO12
---
15
IO6
16
IO7
---
31
VP
32
VP
How do I get a member, so that I can add some content for my board? (I already have created an account, but that does not help).
Andy
Membership - I thought was kind of automatic, but perhaps it relies on email invitation, so I'm emailing all contributors an invite. If anyone else would like an invitation, just ask.
If you have lots more information about your design, and how it may be applied, feel free to create a page just for that design. I did a sample page for Martin's ASC while playing around with the wiki features.
But 2 small errors I saw in the wiki about the IODreamKit.
It's Brian Meade not Brian Carpenter, and I used Eagle to lay it out, not diptrace.
Thanks for getting that design out there!
Thanks for dropping by. We can fix the name mix-up. Do you have a BOM for the IODreamkit? We'd like to gather together the BOM for all the boards and make the parts kits available through Mouser and other suppliers offering the BOM services. If you do, you can either post it here and we'll find it or email it to Tubular or myself.
Thanks!!
I think a lot of these boards are going to be built - this may become a collector's item!
Also, do you know if there is a BoM for it? There is already one user asking, and I'd love to build it too. I emailed Hanno but he is traveling at the moment. If there is a bom I hope to create a Mouser kit for easy ordering.
thanks
Lachlan
I'll have a go tonight at creating some mouser kits for my own designs. I can do Phil's Propstick too, as I've built several and know it backwards. The mouser kits let you have your own "user description" for the parts, and I'd suggest we use the board name first, eg "PropStick - 5 MHz crystal " . The normal part details still appear on the mouser labels, this is just useful supplementary info that helps make kits easier to build
both of you please PM me your email addresses. I checked my mouser account, and was supprised to see it's still there and all my projects were still there.
Mouser has a great service, where you can store projects, including part numbers and quantities needed. When I was selling SpinStudio kits, I could simply select the project, multiply by the quantity I needed to make, and it dropped it into my shopping cart. I have the IODreamKit project that I can forward to you from mouser. Not all the parts are included in that. some of those small surface mount passives I just bought a reel off ebay, as you can normally find them for $10-20 for a whole reel of 5000
The crystal listed is wrong. I had a 5 mhz listed. The form factor is correct, but the speed is wrong for this board. I think at the time we comprimised with a 6 mhz crystal to run the board at 96 mhz, close to the rated speed of the fast ADC. 6 mhz was the best I could find in that size crystal. 6.25 would have been better.
oh also the fast ADC IC isn't available from mouser, so that's not in that project file either. It's a ADC08100 from National Semi
one other nitpicky thing about the wiki. There's no FET's. There is a ULN2803 for higher current output. - The parts you might have confused with FETs are Voltage Regulators