Yes, I'm sure all the old posts are there. I never doubted that. But they're messed up. That's my only complaint until they get remigrated/repaired. Then -- and only then -- is it worth discussing things like formatting, font size, avatars, etc., which have simple solutions.
As long as the old one remains online, I don't have a big problem pushing forward with this one.
If that's the plan, great! Would be nice to deal with search. Wonder if the new software can search the old forum? If so, perhaps two links could be delivered? If that's not the plan, I think I would easily purchase a DVD, or help with a community project to make that forum readable as a standalone entity.
This is a test
Based on the test above, and the formatting errors seen, perhaps a script could run, editing old posts, transforming the XML style formatting, once again to the bracket UBB form used for input, thus fixing the old posts as a human would have to do it.
I'm off to try and fix one of my own that has formatting issues as a test.
Ok, what I found was often nested tags ended up mangled. If quote and code tags are used together, which appeared to be common, the end product was [ code ][ /code ] ended up as < CODE >, < /CODE > which doesn't work. Changing those to the brackets fixed things nicely. In the post I tried, the quote tag was kind of dangling, there was either start or end. Not sure why it was even there!
(spaces added to let the tag come through, not the intent of the tag.)
Honestly, this is a job for a PERL guru. Some parsing and regular expressions applied to this mess would do a lot of damage on the problem.
I much prefer the other non-proportional font over the current Courier. Not a high priority, clearly. But, it would be nice to eventually end up with the other font choice, which was a lot more readable than Courier generally is.
Is there a way to subscribe to the forums as email? I have kept a local searchable database that way. Now those links bring up a 404 error, but when I change "parallax" to "parallaxinc", I find what I want. But I don't see a way to continue the email subscription. And I'm all ears on any way to correct the discombobulation of the formatting, or to streamline the back-link to the parallaxinc version.
The new forum does have its niceties. The feature where you can access all of the attachments you ever uploaded, that may come in handy.
Parallax has been through these transitions several times before, and each time it is wrenching. It is a fact of our technological life. I see that the archive of the old Parallax Yahoo groups forum is still available here, but how often does that stuff get referenced well beyond several half-lives of both the good and the bad?
One thing I've always found lacking in vBulletin is the lack of strike-through. Makes it difficult to indicate parts of posts as 'ignore this, nothing to see here, but this is what I said'. The tendency becomes to correct earlier posts by removal and rewriting, but that often makes follow-up comments confusing.
Not over in the Propeller thread. Hmm - seems to be lots more activity here in the "Support for using this forum". Maybe this is where everyone has gone?
Is this true - all the attachments >63k have been erased? Also, I tried copying some pasm and spin code from old forum postings into the Proptool but it does not work.
Gut feeling here, but I suspect there is (was) a lot more code posted on the forum than in the obex.
To quote Kryten from Red Dwarf when he is forced to crush himself in the garbage compactor - "I'm almost annoyed".
At times like this, I feel I need the calming effect of poetry. I found some Haiku:
A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone.
Three things are certain:
Death, taxes, and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.
Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.
There is a chasm
of carbon and silicon
the software can't bridge
With searching comes loss
and the presence of absence:
"My Novel" not found.
Everything is gone;
Your life's work has been destroyed.
Squeeze trigger (yes/no)?
This site has been moved.
We'd tell you where, but then we'd
have to delete you.
Login incorrect.
Only perfect spellers may
enter this system.
Seeing my great fault
Through darkening blue windows
I begin again
The code was willing,
It considered your request,
But the chips were weak.
Printer not ready.
Could be a fatal error.
Have a pen handy?
Errors have occurred.
We won't tell you where or why.
Lazy programmers.
Server's poor response
Not quick enough for browser.
Timed out, plum blossom.
Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.
Wind catches lily
Scatt'ring petals to the wind:
Segmentation fault
ABORTED effort:
Close all that you have.
You ask way too much.
First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
so beautifully.
The Tao that is seen
Is not the true Tao, until
You bring fresh toner.
The Web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist
Stay the patient course
Of little worth is your ire
The network is down
A crash reduces
your expensive computer
to a simple stone.
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that
To have no errors
Would be life without meaning
No struggle, no joy
You step in the stream,
but the water has moved on.
This page is not here.
No keyboard present
Hit F1 to continue
Zen engineering?
Hal, open the file
Hal, open the damn file, Hal
open the, please Hal
Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
But we never will.
The ten thousand things
How long do any persist?
Netscape, too, has gone.
Rather than a beep
Or a rude error message,
These words: "File not found."
Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.
Do you have the link? All I get when I click on links to the old forum is "Not Found The requested URL /forums/default.aspx was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at forums.parallax.com Port 80"
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-Phil
If that's the plan, great! Would be nice to deal with search. Wonder if the new software can search the old forum? If so, perhaps two links could be delivered? If that's not the plan, I think I would easily purchase a DVD, or help with a community project to make that forum readable as a standalone entity.
Based on the test above, and the formatting errors seen, perhaps a script could run, editing old posts, transforming the XML style formatting, once again to the bracket UBB form used for input, thus fixing the old posts as a human would have to do it.
I'm off to try and fix one of my own that has formatting issues as a test.
Ok, what I found was often nested tags ended up mangled. If quote and code tags are used together, which appeared to be common, the end product was [ code ][ /code ] ended up as < CODE >, < /CODE > which doesn't work. Changing those to the brackets fixed things nicely. In the post I tried, the quote tag was kind of dangling, there was either start or end. Not sure why it was even there!
(spaces added to let the tag come through, not the intent of the tag.)
Honestly, this is a job for a PERL guru. Some parsing and regular expressions applied to this mess would do a lot of damage on the problem.
I much prefer the other non-proportional font over the current Courier. Not a high priority, clearly. But, it would be nice to eventually end up with the other font choice, which was a lot more readable than Courier generally is.
You can also use the [noparse][noparse] command to include [code] commands in your message without spaces. [/noparse]
Love the new BBcodes.
OBC
I've not looked at them all yet.
The new forum does have its niceties. The feature where you can access all of the attachments you ever uploaded, that may come in handy.
Parallax has been through these transitions several times before, and each time it is wrenching. It is a fact of our technological life. I see that the archive of the old Parallax Yahoo groups forum is still available here, but how often does that stuff get referenced well beyond several half-lives of both the good and the bad?
One thing I've always found lacking in vBulletin is the lack of strike-through. Makes it difficult to indicate parts of posts as 'ignore this, nothing to see here, but this is what I said'. The tendency becomes to correct earlier posts by removal and rewriting, but that often makes follow-up comments confusing.
Where is everyone?
Not over in the Propeller thread. Hmm - seems to be lots more activity here in the "Support for using this forum". Maybe this is where everyone has gone?
Is this true - all the attachments >63k have been erased? Also, I tried copying some pasm and spin code from old forum postings into the Proptool but it does not work.
Gut feeling here, but I suspect there is (was) a lot more code posted on the forum than in the obex.
To quote Kryten from Red Dwarf when he is forced to crush himself in the garbage compactor - "I'm almost annoyed".
At times like this, I feel I need the calming effect of poetry. I found some Haiku:
A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone.
Three things are certain:
Death, taxes, and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.
Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.
There is a chasm
of carbon and silicon
the software can't bridge
With searching comes loss
and the presence of absence:
"My Novel" not found.
Everything is gone;
Your life's work has been destroyed.
Squeeze trigger (yes/no)?
This site has been moved.
We'd tell you where, but then we'd
have to delete you.
Login incorrect.
Only perfect spellers may
enter this system.
Seeing my great fault
Through darkening blue windows
I begin again
The code was willing,
It considered your request,
But the chips were weak.
Printer not ready.
Could be a fatal error.
Have a pen handy?
Errors have occurred.
We won't tell you where or why.
Lazy programmers.
Server's poor response
Not quick enough for browser.
Timed out, plum blossom.
Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.
Wind catches lily
Scatt'ring petals to the wind:
Segmentation fault
ABORTED effort:
Close all that you have.
You ask way too much.
First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
so beautifully.
The Tao that is seen
Is not the true Tao, until
You bring fresh toner.
The Web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist
Stay the patient course
Of little worth is your ire
The network is down
A crash reduces
your expensive computer
to a simple stone.
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that
To have no errors
Would be life without meaning
No struggle, no joy
You step in the stream,
but the water has moved on.
This page is not here.
No keyboard present
Hit F1 to continue
Zen engineering?
Hal, open the file
Hal, open the damn file, Hal
open the, please Hal
Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
But we never will.
The ten thousand things
How long do any persist?
Netscape, too, has gone.
Rather than a beep
Or a rude error message,
These words: "File not found."
Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.
Are the larger attachments gone from there, or just not here?
If they are just gone, that's a major league bummer.
(goes off to check)
They still exist. In the end, it's just work. Nothing really lost. I'm ok with that. We / Parallax can get things sorted over time.
Do you have the link? All I get when I click on links to the old forum is "Not Found The requested URL /forums/default.aspx was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at forums.parallax.com Port 80"
So - the data is still all there.
Ah - so all I need to do on my website links is change
http://forums.parallax.com/forums/default.aspx?f=25&m=448624&p=1
to
http://forums.parallaxinc.com/forums/default.aspx?f=25&m=448624&p=1
ie parallax.com to parallaxinc.com
That makes things simpler. Right, off to harvest some data in case this old forum gets deleted...
This is such a disaster.