Done! Finished prototype two on the weekend; into production next week.
So you added a RS232 to the iPad?
Does the software require a jail-break? If no, please add me on top of the list for the hardware.
No, I won't ask for RS485.
First, this seems like a job for the Spinerette, and then use JavaScript on the iPad... The forthcoming WiFi module would be even better!
Second, by the end of the week, you should be able to get an HP Slate for about $800 or so (sampe price as the high end iPad). Then you basically have a full blown PC, less a keyboard, and you could not only communicate, but program with it. (Mine is on order.)
I got an iPad to read pdfs. Nice but I'd like to use it a bit more
Installing cydia an the required programming tools and terminal emulator requires 8 Euro and some minutes. The biggest problem are the on-screen keyboards. Just letters, some assorted symbols and numbers or other symbols... not programming friendly .
Doing a restore to factory os cleans all software, the jailbreak is then gone, no traces of it.
I think an android device would be much better suited.
see this blog post. the yelp engineering team used an ipad with a serial connection to control a kegbot (sorry if link violates rules)
the only difference is that the final result uses an ipad app to control it over serial, but that should not be too hard to use with a terminal program.
OK... one more idea ... again its a little nuts, but should fit right in here. Since the iPad has VGA and composite out video, its possible to do a "visual bit bang" and then process the video on a Prop. This could be as simple as flashing a white and black screen. The audio input could be used as flow control.
I'm not sure that's the sort of thing Ken is looking to do, but I like the concept a lot! A number of times I've resorted to extemporaneous optical or acoustical interfaces in order to get very dissimilar or closed systems to talk.
Sometimes there have been commercially-available solutions but they proved to be so expensive or complicated or trouble-prone that the 'crazy' way ultimately won out. Crazy can be great!
Doing a bit of research about the possibility of connecting an iPad to a BS2 or Propeller using a terminal program. I'm not interested in programming, but interfacing with one of our chips to download/upload data using a terminal program.
Didn't readily find a terminal program, but I see that there's a cable http://www.redpark.com/news.html that should make the connection physically possible.
The iPad seems to use the same OS as the iPhone, so this question could also pertain to iPhones.
Does anybody have any insight or experience about setting up such a serial connection?
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Hello everybody
I know I am responding super late to this, but perhaps it could still be of assistance.
There are two options-
1- Redpark C2-RJ45 connector for $70, $9 for the Get-Console terminal App, and $3 p/month to remotely connect to you device.
The link for option 1 is http://itunes.apple.com/app/get-console/id412067943?mt=8#
Both options have their Pros and Cons.
Option-1: Imo has unnecesary costs involved, for a basic i use often ($3 monthly) They claim that their software only works with Cisco equipment where the Baud rate is 9600 and Stops bits enable. I have not bought this cable so I cant verify how true that statement is. But this does not require a your device to be jailbroken.
Option-2: I have been using this option for some time now. I work in data centers everyday, and pulling out my ipad to console onto a device is a bliss. The Flex Serial cable has dip switches on the side that allows to console onto any TTY device. Yes this does require a jailbreak. I honestly dont understand why people have such a fuss about jailbreaking. It is legal, as approved by US federal court last year. And to recover a device is easy if you somehow managed to get stuck jailbreaking. Just connect it to iTunes and click recover.
Anyhow I am not trying to change any persons way of doing things, I am just providing the options I found and which I am using.
hello
what amazing topic that i may find a help in it
anyway i make nice robot that u can connect it via wifi through ipocket device that convert the serial port from rs232 to RJ45 to connect it with the acces point then control in the robot by homemade interface from my labtop
the isuse that i need to get an apps for iphone or ipod to make the same controlling via wifi like usart terminal or hyber terminal
i mean for example if u pressed the key 1 in the kyeboard the robot go forward that from ur hyberterminal in ur pc
i want to do the same thing with the iphone can i ??
thanks ppk
As I've mentioned before, MochaSoft has an iPhone app that provides a Telnet connection to any device that supports Telnet connections. The Spinneret and the YBox2 are both Ethernet Propeller boards and both support Telnet. Bean has talked about a version of his embedded Basic that uses Telnet for its console and I've mentioned in the past about modifying FemtoBasic to run on the YBox2 using Telnet for its console. You might consider waiting for Parallax's WiFi interface to be released. It should be much easier to use for your robot than either the Spinneret or YBox2 and is a WiFi device rather than requiring a wired Ethernet connection or an Ethernet to WiFi bridge.
Apple might have a small ran with its iphone, But when Bill brings his out, iphone game over.
Since then MicroSoft has pretty much taken over Nokia. That resulted in Nokia stocks falling by almost 30% the same day.
Anyway, why would any self respecting geek who likes to hack around with things, especially computers, be investing in any Apple product the makers of which really don't want you to do that?
It's a challenge I guess. If I could get Debian to run on an iPad I might even think about buying one:)
If you really want to use a pad with a Propeller go the easy route and use an Android device with the Android Debug Bridge USB connection.
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some have E fuses . and no I don't mean PTCs eather .
one wrong line of code and poof you own a $200 paper weight/ door wedge .
as a apple "fanboy" I can not stand the Ipod pad phone .
I prefer the WebOS right now . its not full of goolges marketing junk nor apples locked down junk . or windows junk in the trunk .
So you added a RS232 to the iPad?
Does the software require a jail-break? If no, please add me on top of the list for the hardware.
No, I won't ask for RS485.
Nick
First, this seems like a job for the Spinerette, and then use JavaScript on the iPad... The forthcoming WiFi module would be even better!
Second, by the end of the week, you should be able to get an HP Slate for about $800 or so (sampe price as the high end iPad). Then you basically have a full blown PC, less a keyboard, and you could not only communicate, but program with it. (Mine is on order.)
John R.
I got an iPad to read pdfs. Nice but I'd like to use it a bit more
Installing cydia an the required programming tools and terminal emulator requires 8 Euro and some minutes. The biggest problem are the on-screen keyboards. Just letters, some assorted symbols and numbers or other symbols... not programming friendly
Doing a restore to factory os cleans all software, the jailbreak is then gone, no traces of it.
I think an android device would be much better suited.
I agree. The nook color may be a good canidate.
Bean
see this blog post. the yelp engineering team used an ipad with a serial connection to control a kegbot (sorry if link violates rules)
the only difference is that the final result uses an ipad app to control it over serial, but that should not be too hard to use with a terminal program.
I'm not sure that's the sort of thing Ken is looking to do, but I like the concept a lot! A number of times I've resorted to extemporaneous optical or acoustical interfaces in order to get very dissimilar or closed systems to talk.
Sometimes there have been commercially-available solutions but they proved to be so expensive or complicated or trouble-prone that the 'crazy' way ultimately won out. Crazy can be great!
Hello everybody
I know I am responding super late to this, but perhaps it could still be of assistance.
There are two options-
1- Redpark C2-RJ45 connector for $70, $9 for the Get-Console terminal App, and $3 p/month to remotely connect to you device.
The link for option 1 is http://itunes.apple.com/app/get-console/id412067943?mt=8#
2- FlexSerial Cable for $68, and using Minicom for terminal emulation. But this option requires a jailbroken phone.
I wrote a article how to setup option-2 here http://routing-bits.com/2011/01/03/console-to-routers-using-the-ipad/
Both options have their Pros and Cons.
Option-1: Imo has unnecesary costs involved, for a basic i use often ($3 monthly) They claim that their software only works with Cisco equipment where the Baud rate is 9600 and Stops bits enable. I have not bought this cable so I cant verify how true that statement is. But this does not require a your device to be jailbroken.
Option-2: I have been using this option for some time now. I work in data centers everyday, and pulling out my ipad to console onto a device is a bliss. The Flex Serial cable has dip switches on the side that allows to console onto any TTY device. Yes this does require a jailbreak. I honestly dont understand why people have such a fuss about jailbreaking. It is legal, as approved by US federal court last year. And to recover a device is easy if you somehow managed to get stuck jailbreaking. Just connect it to iTunes and click recover.
Anyhow I am not trying to change any persons way of doing things, I am just providing the options I found and which I am using.
HTH
http://www.xmos.com/products/development-kits/ipod-dock
That uses the interface for streaming audio, but it could be used for data.
If the iPad could be persuaded to use full-speed USB instead of high-speed, it should be possible to use a Propeller for the USB host interface.
what amazing topic that i may find a help in it
anyway i make nice robot that u can connect it via wifi through ipocket device that convert the serial port from rs232 to RJ45 to connect it with the acces point then control in the robot by homemade interface from my labtop
the isuse that i need to get an apps for iphone or ipod to make the same controlling via wifi like usart terminal or hyber terminal
i mean for example if u pressed the key 1 in the kyeboard the robot go forward that from ur hyberterminal in ur pc
i want to do the same thing with the iphone can i ??
thanks ppk
http://hackaday.com/2011/04/07/a-breakout-board-for-your-android-phone/
Since then MicroSoft has pretty much taken over Nokia. That resulted in Nokia stocks falling by almost 30% the same day.
Anyway, why would any self respecting geek who likes to hack around with things, especially computers, be investing in any Apple product the makers of which really don't want you to do that?
It's a challenge I guess. If I could get Debian to run on an iPad I might even think about buying one:)
If you really want to use a pad with a Propeller go the easy route and use an Android device with the Android Debug Bridge USB connection.
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?130380-Android-Debug-Bridge-on-a-prop