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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2010-04-21 13:23
    I too was going to say "Spider", with the slogan, "Putting a new Spin on the web" [noparse]:)[/noparse] "Spinning the web for you with ease"
    But "Spider" has already been suggested, so I thought I'd put my slogans in also, as you may like them [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Edit: I also like computer guy's "Build your own web" [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • YendorYendor Posts: 288
    edited 2010-04-21 13:46
    Excellent!

    +1 for "Build your own web" too. With just that, you don't need "web server", and it sparks curiosity, confidence and dominance.

    Awesome graphic too, computer guy! That's what I'm talking about! I'm also glad you didn't put a propeller hat on him! ;o)

    Like I said, I'd buy the product, the hat and the t-shirt!

    I like Baggers' too, but it doesn't scream 'hobbist, engineer, and prowness" like "Build your own web".

    Another take is "Spin your own web".but I still like 'Build' better'.
  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2010-04-21 15:42
    I'm thinking Computer guy is onto a winner there [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • YendorYendor Posts: 288
    edited 2010-04-21 15:53
    Agreed. That saying 'screams' Parallax. Also the position of Spider is perfect in the graphic too. Lots of sinistar attitude!

    Still needs two red LED 'eyes' for Tx/Rx network activity! lol

    [noparse][[/noparse]edit] I'd buy his domed stickers, too! [noparse]:o[/noparse])
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2010-04-21 16:00
    Very convincing graphic! I like "Spin your own Web!" because it promotes Spin.
    Excellent work computer guy.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2010-04-21 20:57
    Geeezzzz.....so many great ideas here I better get back to cranking on the firmware so as to not let everyone down.

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  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2010-04-21 22:54
    If you took the name SPIDER and played with the phonetics a little to make it SPHYDER (could still be pronounced SPIDER)

    In networking PHY stands for the Physical layer and is considered the basic hardware level of any network.

    So if SPIDER were to become SPhyDER a valid acronym might be ...


    Secure (Physical layer) Data Ethernet Resource

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  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2010-04-22 01:03
    I vote for Spider with "Spin your own web". It is absolutely fantastic IMHO.

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  • computer guycomputer guy Posts: 1,113
    edited 2010-04-22 07:33
    Thanks for the compliments on the graphic guys.
    Having said that, "Spider" was Yendor's idea. I just got bored and did some graphic design.

    @Yendor, thanks for promoting my stickers.

    I have changed the graphic a bit (I think it explains what it does a bit better).
    If Parallax want to use any aspect of the graphic they are free to use it. I am happy to send them the Vector version in either EPS or AI format.

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  • TonyWaiteTonyWaite Posts: 219
    edited 2010-04-22 07:41
    The combination of the graphic and 'Spin your own web' motto is brilliant!

    T o n y
  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2010-04-22 08:14
    lol you could also have "Welcome to the web, Prop inside!"
    Sorry, but I couldn't help myself [noparse]:D[/noparse]

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  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2010-04-22 08:19
    I love this! Very well done!

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  • David CarrierDavid Carrier Posts: 294
    edited 2010-04-22 15:12
    It is time to get your final thoughts in. We will be finalizing the name on Friday morning.

    — David Carrier
  • KPRKPR Posts: 189
    edited 2010-04-22 15:22
    It looks like Computer guy has done the entire campaign for you guys .. I also like the Sphyder aspect..

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,889
    edited 2010-04-22 15:28
    Looks like "Spider" is the name. Not too bad.

    Personally, I'd call it "PropNet Server", in case there's a line of web enabled products, like "PropNet TV" or "PropNet Radio"...

    I think Heater mentioned "PropNet" first...

    But, I just bought some surface mount ENC28J60 chips, so I'm glad the name "PropNet" is still available [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2010-04-22 18:18
    "Prop the web up with a spider"

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  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-04-22 18:55
    My votes

    1.Spider
    2.PropNet
    3.NetPAL

    A little "SPIN" on Baggers suggestion, PROPel your net with a Spider"

    Jim
  • YendorYendor Posts: 288
    edited 2010-04-23 14:12
    1. Spider
    2. Spider Web Server
    3. SILK - Spider Internet Link Kit (spider spins a silk web...)

    Slogans:
    1. Spin your own Web
    2. Build your own web
    3. Spin your own web server

    And the grapic & font from computer guy. [noparse]:o[/noparse])

    Just for viewing on what it'll look like,·I added a couple of led eyes and tried the top slogan.· I hope you don't mind computer guy!
  • David CarrierDavid Carrier Posts: 294
    edited 2010-04-24 01:25
    Thanks everyone for your input. I present your ideas to our marketing department, and we settled on "Spinneret Web Server". We never would have thought that one word could combine the Propeller (and its Spin programming language) with the internet (and its world wide web) in a single word. Yendor came up with the spider theme, and ElectricAye suggested spinneret. They will each receive a Spinneret Web Server, as soon as they are available.

    Thanks again,
    David Carrier

    P.S. As Yendor pointed out, the Propeller has eight cogs and a spider has eight legs and eyes. By coincidence, the Spinneret Web Server will also have 8 LEDs, and there are eight lines in an Ethernet connection.
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-04-24 01:40
    Congrats Yendor and ElectricAye!

    But where does ComputerGuy stand with the awsome graphics?

    Jim
  • markaericmarkaeric Posts: 282
    edited 2010-04-24 02:57
    I had to keep re-reading the name spinneret because I kept on thinking it was "spinnernet". Hopefully this doesn't cause confusion for people when searching online for it. Bean's suggestion for "Spinnerette" made the spelling much more obvious.

    Post Edited (markaeric) : 4/24/2010 3:07:11 AM GMT
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2010-04-24 03:10
    David Carrier (Parallax) said...
    ... Yendor came up with the spider theme, and ElectricAye suggested spinneret. They will each receive a Spinneret Web Server, as soon as they are available....

    Wow! Thanks! smile.gif That's very generous of y'all. It sounds like it's going to be an awesome product. I only hope I'm smart enough to get it to work. Does this mean I'll be able to control my Props via the internet? Does this mean I can tweak my lab experiments without getting out of bed in the morning/afternoon? lol.gif

    BTW I love the spider graphics ComputerGuy has done. It's impossible to imagine a logo better than what he's created.


    Thanks again!
    Mark
  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2010-04-24 12:35
    Congrats Yendor and ElectricAye [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    I too think computerguy's logo, is great, and the positioning of the writing and with the spider towering over it, it's perfect.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2010-04-26 13:40
    Regarding PropNet - it was partially available. I have used the name on a Propeller/Ethernet product that is a prototype of the soon to come Spinneret Web Server.

    www.brilldea.com/product_PropNET.html

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-05-17 16:39
    David Carrier showed me the following board this morning, so I promptly grabbed a camera.

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  • KPRKPR Posts: 189
    edited 2010-05-17 17:13
    Nice.. very nice.. estimated price and availability yet by any remote chance??

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-05-17 17:40
    @KPR:

    UPEW (at Parallax) provides a deadline we aim to meet at the end of June. Every product in Parallax has a product owner and this one is run by David Carrier. He also works in Technical Support so he's very busy, though he has support from our engineering department for bill of materials, purchasing setups, prototype development with manufacturing, etc. I'll be sure to jump in and make sure that our processes are followed and everybody is communicating. I don't see why we wouldn't be in full production by early August at this stage, pending input from Timothy Sweiter for the firmware.

    For price, David is shooting for $49 and I want to meet that goal if possible. This product is fully Made in the USA, so that adds at least $10 to our cost. Of course we have other motivations to keep the price low - this one will serve as an entirely open Propeller reference design.

    Shown below is a picture with David Carrier, Ken, and David Kim (CTO of WizNet) at Parallax last week in our soon-to-be "old conference room". The new room doesn't have as much hobby stuff hanging around. . .more on that transformation later. What's important about our work with WizNet is that we have their total support for long-term collaboration, including design contests and an efficient connection between our customers and their company as a supplier. We don't take on too many designs, but what we do we aim to do properly.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2010-05-18 10:19
    Just the motivation I need to get back to working on the drivers and software design. I finally made it back to Singapore and am getting settled and can plan my evenings and weekends for working on the software.

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  • SiriSiri Posts: 220
    edited 2010-05-18 13:25
    I suggest " PropWebSpider"

    This would represent most of the ideas glued to one.

    Siri
  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2010-06-15 12:06
    I powered the Spinneret demo I got. The device has worked in both SPI and Indirect. Much more coding and testing to be done.

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