Cat names are extremely important. I named mine "Browser" in 1996, the year he adopted me and the year I first got got internet service. PJ is right, though: unlike a dog, after nearly 14 years, Browser still doesn't know his name (the only word he knows being "treat"), but that's beside the point. "NAND" is an especially good name if you own two cats, since you could name the other one "NOR".
BTW, why are you buying a cat — unless you've found one for sale that you particularly like? Pound cats abound and make great pets, and you can save a life by adopting one. Get an American shorthair. They're virtually maintenance-free. If you live in an area with coyotes, raccoons, or other nocturnal predators, be sure to keep your cat in at night. And if you let it out during the day, be sure to keep a box or two of Amoxi Drops powder in your fridge (from your vet) for the inevitable fights it will get into with other cats. (Cats are terribly prone to infections and abscesses. I'm astonished that they were ever able to evolve without our help.)
-Phil
P.S. Don't listen to ElectricAye! He's obviously an unreconstructed cat hater. Such people do exist and are to be avoided when possible. Just remember: Cats rule. Dogs drool.
Post Edited (Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)) : 12/3/2009 5:43:55 AM GMT
Yeah, that's a good cat name. They respond to shorter names, and that one has a nice vowel sound you can use.
IMHO, the best way to name a cat is to first obtain the cat, then interact with it, then assign the name. Cats are striking creatures and usually will make an impression, if they know they can interact with you back.
Cats are known to manipulate their humans in subtle ways. If you spend time with a cat, be sure and make it two way time, and you will be rewarded with a cat bond that's hard to beat.
When you've given the name, use it regularly, with eye contact, while petting, or in tandem with a treat. Keep "kitty kitty" to light usage, until your cat perks up at the sound of it's name. Cats will key off the most important sounds they hear, and they use frequency of utterance and your emphasis to gauge that, along with the activity. Also use it in greeting or passing. If you've been away for a while (and for a cat, 30 minutes is a while), greet the cat with an utterance of it's name before anything else, followed up by a brief stroke it likes. This can be as quick as "Hey Nand!" and a little scratch on the top of it's head. You will see the cats facial expression, and feel it move to accept the attention when you do it right. If the cat returns the favor, by reaching out with it's foot, or with a nice rub, spend an extra moment or two. They pick up on this too.
Cats employ a complex body language. Their tails express what's on their mind at any given time. Rubbing, walking to and from, circles, kneading, and other things all signal what the cat is doing.
Their intense bonding time is in the first 6 months or so. If you've not had many two way conversations with your cat, it will settle into a less expressive mode, simply figuring you love it, but don't get it, and will be perfectly fine with that. Sharing good food, special petting times, and some interaction right when you arrive home are very important to the cat. They pick up on routine, and when you are separated from them, want to interact with you right away. This is so it can communicate to you it's mood, and it can determine something about what you were doing.
Have fun! Cats are very interesting animals.
Consider using "Na-Nand" or "Nand Nand", etc... when you address your cat. They like speech patterns like that. For some reason, they find those distinctive. Makes it easier to get a name bond. Cats can hold an inventory of 20K sounds. My own personal theory on why they like those kinds of names is that much of our speech isn't in that form. To them, it's distinctive.
We've a few cats, and they have names like Zoe (Zoe-Zoe), Stamp(Stam-Stamp), Loki (loki-loksterrr), etc... So there is the name we use when talking among ourselves, and the form used for the cat. One name, Frankie, just worked!
Regular play time is good too. When you cat comes to you, tail up, expressive, ears perky, and it's active, that's play time!
Anyway, I could go on about cats and dogs actually. Love both of them. Enjoy!
Edit: It is best to get a kitten, and if you can, two! (they will enjoy one another and be more relaxed animals) If you get an older cat, spend serious time with it to bond. It can happen, but it takes a bit more effort to turn a jaded cat, or one that's been transitioned. Cats absolutely hate that, unless they travel a lot when they are young.
Another Edit: Cats are particular about ownership of things. They will rarely eat from your hand, preferring you "give" it to them with a favorable placement. The petting protocol is the same too. If you go to pet the cat, it will generally accept that. If you are not sure, extend a hand and pause. The cat will give you a gentle rub indicating "yes, let's do that!". Good attention to these things builds your cat bond quickly.
It took us a while to name the two cats we adopted shortly after my wife and I got married, but finally settled on Einstein and Edison. Funny thing is, they settled into their names rather well. Einstein was calm and you could always tell he was in deep thought about something. (passed away 2 years ago) Edison is always inventing ways to get into things he should have left alone. We never really figured out how he made it to the top of the fridge to sleep there.
We also have a third, a female, Madison. Named after the road that my wife found her in the middle of when she was a 3 week old kitten; Madison Ave in Sacramento. God only knows how she was in the middle of the 4 lane road and alive. My wife literally stopped in the middle of lane #2 and picked her up.
Yes, a short name is best. They do respond to their name, but I've trained Babbage, my Burmese cat, to come when I whistle. He's my fifth Burmese, three of the others got run over by cars and the other (my first) developed feline aids from fighting other cats.
Burmese are very like dogs in some ways, they love playing fetch and even sound somewhat similar. They are called dog cats in Burma. They are very outgoing cats and love people, even complete strangers, but can be aggressive if they don't get their own way. I left my first one with my mother when I moved up north, and I only visited her every few months. He obviously identified the particular sound I made when opening the front door and would always jump up and run to the door, he didn't do it for anyone else. If they can identify someone by the sound dynamics of a key in a lock, they should be able to recognise their own name.
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Burmese are very like dogs in some ways, they love playing fetch and even sound somewhat similar.
I'm not a cat fan at all (might be related to the fact I'm incredibly allergic to them and they know it!), but my mate had a Burmese and it was the only cat I ever thought I could get to like. I sat and watched it drag a cow's leg bone backwards through a cat door one day. It just sat quietly inside and knawed on the bone. It really was a cat that thought it was a dog.
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@Leon, yes indeed. Burmese cats are very dog like. We've a striped tabby or two that exhibited a lot of this as well. We used to go on long walks with our first cat-dog, and it would meow for a ride, then when it was ready, it jumped down to continue prowling around with the dogs. Great cat. Lived 17 years. My oldest was 22, and just died this year. [noparse]:([/noparse] I had one Burmese that got hit by a car as well. I really, really hate that.
I seriously like the cat names on this thread. We tend toward simple, fun names, with a small, black fish named "speck". heh. Interestingly, that fish doesn't know it's name (or we think it doesn't), but does know Mrs. Potatohead fingers from Mr. Potatohead fingers. It's bizzare. She dips one in, and the fish will nudge it, rub, swim around, etc... I stick one in, and nothing...
We actually had a pet chicken once growing up. Rufus. That thing was great! For obvious reasons, it had a bed outside, but each morning when my brother and I went out to play, rufus tagged along on most of our in the woods adventures. He liked us a lot, and enjoyed gentle petting right along the back of his neck, and would make little happy sounds. Rufus got eaten, not by us, but by something that lives outside, but it was a fun year.
@Leon, I've never tried a whistle. When I do tones, or simple changes, the dogs perk right up. They like pure tones a lot. Sometimes the cats will listen, but not often. The next time we have a young one, I'm going to try it.
Cats are fragile with disease. We've had to fight off lots of things. Frustrating too, because I never could quite deal with indoor only cats. They have too much fun outside, and are fun to watch hunt 'n play, or to play with. Mine will "hunt" me from a really sneaky vantage point, pouncing for a land on the shoulder, when I'm not looking. I feel it, then this furry face pokes around to look me right in the eye, close up! Zoey does this regularly. Zoey is my alpha cat right now. She's very close to me having been taken away during the last Labor Day holiday. Ended up in a trailer, or something. We don't know. What we do know is that for 3 months she was gone, only to come home, skin and bones, scared to death. For a month solid, she stayed in the bedroom, and would whine when either my wife, or me were gone for any length of time. Had bad dreams too. Kitty PTSD, I guess. Now, she's fine, but never far from either of us, and if I'm off the work schedule, she gets annoyed. If my wife leaves, she's absolutely upset, and will thrash the place until she returns.
Burmese are very like dogs in some ways, they love playing fetch and even sound somewhat similar.
I'm not a cat fan at all (might be related to the fact I'm incredibly allergic to them and they know it!), but my mate had a Burmese and it was the only cat I ever thought I could get to like. I sat and watched it drag a cow's leg bone backwards through a cat door one day. It just sat quietly inside and knawed on the bone. It really was a cat that thought it was a dog.
Babbage loves chewing bones. He even goes through the rubbish and gets one for himself if I don't give it to him.
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IRobot2 said...
I want to name my next dog Sprocket after the inventors dog on Fraggle Rock. (Any one else remember that show? I always loved that dog. )
We have a labradoodle, who actually looks like sprocket, we were going to call her sprocket, but then our girls decided on Daisy lol
Yes, when he was a kitten. I've just updated it with a more recent photo.
One of his predecessors used to follow me part of the way to where I worked, about 10 minutes walk away, then go back to the estate and scratch on the door of an elderly lady who lived near me until she let him in. He'd spend the day with her, then every day at 5 pm, he'd demand to be let out, and be waiting for me at the end of the road. I haven't a clue how he judged the time so accurately, perhaps he recognised a TV or radio programme that came on at that time. His brother used to make his way to a family about 100 yards away every day and expect to be fed. Another one used to follow me to the supermarket, about 5 minutes away, wait outside until I'd done my shopping, and follow me home.
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I hope you don't mind: I adjusted the brightness and contrast of your new avatar a little to bring out the highlights and did a little CSI-style sharpening:
-Phil
Post Edited (Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)) : 12/4/2009 12:01:53 AM GMT
The picture is brighter, but his fur really doesn't look like that. It did when he was a kitten, but darkened when he got older. I don't usually post-process my photos, although a lot of people do. I'll try it, anyway.
Leon said...
The picture is brighter, but his fur really doesn't look like that. It did when he was a kitten, but darkened when he got older. I don't usually post-process my photos, although a lot of people do. I'll try it, anyway.
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For what little it's worth: even though I don't like cats, I like the new picture. (Of course a dog would be better, but his golden eyes kinda make up for the usual feline deficiencies, I spoze.)
I guess as long as he doesn't pee in all your shoes, like my wife's former cat enjoyed doing to mine, then you're ahead of the game.
He has started peeing occasionally in odd places, if he wants something and I don't take any notice of him. He only does it when he knows that I'm watching. He even peed over my LCD display on one occasion. The vet couldn't find anything wrong with him, I think it must be some sort of dominance thing.
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Leon said...
.......I think it must be some sort of dominance thing.
I think so, too. Ever since we hominids learned to bash in the skulls of their saber-toothed ancestors a couple million years ago and transformed ourselves from prey to predator, cats have harbored many hostilities and insecurities. As for me, even after 2 million years, I'm still holding a grudge.
Cats can sense when people don't like them or are avoiding them due to allergies, and they'll act out accordingly. My brother, who's a jazz musician after hours, comes to visit every summer for the local jazz fest and usually stays four or five days. He's allergic to cats and avoids Browser whenever he comes to visit. Last time he was here, Browser got fed up with the lack of attention he was getting from him and peed on the door to the guestroom while my brother was in there sleeping. OTOH, I have former neighbors, an older couple, who moved years ago and stop by to visit occasionally. They always liked Browser, and he both recognizes and instantly warms up to them when they visit.
Used to wear a tracking collar I made a L O N G time ago ..
I used a small PicAix (sorry a BS2 was too big) to pulse a 315 Mhz ABACOM radio with his name and other stuff(
then i used my T-Hunting beam and a scanner to track him ..
I Just got in to APRS last week so there might have to be a new version made soon
As far as Names go .. I like coricopat (Tom) or taintomile (Queen)
I friend in class here named his cat TUX after Linux ..
to Quote TSE ."" The Naming of Cats is a difficult matter,
It isn't just one of your holiday games;
You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
When I tell you, a cat must have THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.""
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wouldn't that be XOR ? ... never knowing the difference that is.
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So I would get NOT the cat.
And get a dog instead.
BTW, why are you buying a cat — unless you've found one for sale that you particularly like? Pound cats abound and make great pets, and you can save a life by adopting one. Get an American shorthair. They're virtually maintenance-free. If you live in an area with coyotes, raccoons, or other nocturnal predators, be sure to keep your cat in at night. And if you let it out during the day, be sure to keep a box or two of Amoxi Drops powder in your fridge (from your vet) for the inevitable fights it will get into with other cats. (Cats are terribly prone to infections and abscesses. I'm astonished that they were ever able to evolve without our help.)
-Phil
P.S. Don't listen to ElectricAye! He's obviously an unreconstructed cat hater. Such people do exist and are to be avoided when possible.
Post Edited (Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)) : 12/3/2009 5:43:55 AM GMT
IMHO, the best way to name a cat is to first obtain the cat, then interact with it, then assign the name. Cats are striking creatures and usually will make an impression, if they know they can interact with you back.
Cats are known to manipulate their humans in subtle ways. If you spend time with a cat, be sure and make it two way time, and you will be rewarded with a cat bond that's hard to beat.
When you've given the name, use it regularly, with eye contact, while petting, or in tandem with a treat. Keep "kitty kitty" to light usage, until your cat perks up at the sound of it's name. Cats will key off the most important sounds they hear, and they use frequency of utterance and your emphasis to gauge that, along with the activity. Also use it in greeting or passing. If you've been away for a while (and for a cat, 30 minutes is a while), greet the cat with an utterance of it's name before anything else, followed up by a brief stroke it likes. This can be as quick as "Hey Nand!" and a little scratch on the top of it's head. You will see the cats facial expression, and feel it move to accept the attention when you do it right. If the cat returns the favor, by reaching out with it's foot, or with a nice rub, spend an extra moment or two. They pick up on this too.
Cats employ a complex body language. Their tails express what's on their mind at any given time. Rubbing, walking to and from, circles, kneading, and other things all signal what the cat is doing.
Their intense bonding time is in the first 6 months or so. If you've not had many two way conversations with your cat, it will settle into a less expressive mode, simply figuring you love it, but don't get it, and will be perfectly fine with that. Sharing good food, special petting times, and some interaction right when you arrive home are very important to the cat. They pick up on routine, and when you are separated from them, want to interact with you right away. This is so it can communicate to you it's mood, and it can determine something about what you were doing.
Have fun! Cats are very interesting animals.
Consider using "Na-Nand" or "Nand Nand", etc... when you address your cat. They like speech patterns like that. For some reason, they find those distinctive. Makes it easier to get a name bond. Cats can hold an inventory of 20K sounds. My own personal theory on why they like those kinds of names is that much of our speech isn't in that form. To them, it's distinctive.
We've a few cats, and they have names like Zoe (Zoe-Zoe), Stamp(Stam-Stamp), Loki (loki-loksterrr), etc... So there is the name we use when talking among ourselves, and the form used for the cat. One name, Frankie, just worked!
Regular play time is good too. When you cat comes to you, tail up, expressive, ears perky, and it's active, that's play time!
Anyway, I could go on about cats and dogs actually. Love both of them. Enjoy!
Edit: It is best to get a kitten, and if you can, two! (they will enjoy one another and be more relaxed animals) If you get an older cat, spend serious time with it to bond. It can happen, but it takes a bit more effort to turn a jaded cat, or one that's been transitioned. Cats absolutely hate that, unless they travel a lot when they are young.
Another Edit: Cats are particular about ownership of things. They will rarely eat from your hand, preferring you "give" it to them with a favorable placement. The petting protocol is the same too. If you go to pet the cat, it will generally accept that. If you are not sure, extend a hand and pause. The cat will give you a gentle rub indicating "yes, let's do that!". Good attention to these things builds your cat bond quickly.
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Post Edited (potatohead) : 12/3/2009 5:45:53 AM GMT
We also have a third, a female, Madison. Named after the road that my wife found her in the middle of when she was a 3 week old kitten; Madison Ave in Sacramento. God only knows how she was in the middle of the 4 lane road and alive. My wife literally stopped in the middle of lane #2 and picked her up.
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Burmese are very like dogs in some ways, they love playing fetch and even sound somewhat similar. They are called dog cats in Burma. They are very outgoing cats and love people, even complete strangers, but can be aggressive if they don't get their own way. I left my first one with my mother when I moved up north, and I only visited her every few months. He obviously identified the particular sound I made when opening the front door and would always jump up and run to the door, he didn't do it for anyone else. If they can identify someone by the sound dynamics of a key in a lock, they should be able to recognise their own name.
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Post Edited (Leon) : 12/3/2009 12:36:38 PM GMT
I'm not a cat fan at all (might be related to the fact I'm incredibly allergic to them and they know it!), but my mate had a Burmese and it was the only cat I ever thought I could get to like. I sat and watched it drag a cow's leg bone backwards through a cat door one day. It just sat quietly inside and knawed on the bone. It really was a cat that thought it was a dog.
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@Leon, yes indeed. Burmese cats are very dog like. We've a striped tabby or two that exhibited a lot of this as well. We used to go on long walks with our first cat-dog, and it would meow for a ride, then when it was ready, it jumped down to continue prowling around with the dogs. Great cat. Lived 17 years. My oldest was 22, and just died this year. [noparse]:([/noparse] I had one Burmese that got hit by a car as well. I really, really hate that.
I seriously like the cat names on this thread. We tend toward simple, fun names, with a small, black fish named "speck". heh. Interestingly, that fish doesn't know it's name (or we think it doesn't), but does know Mrs. Potatohead fingers from Mr. Potatohead fingers. It's bizzare. She dips one in, and the fish will nudge it, rub, swim around, etc... I stick one in, and nothing...
We actually had a pet chicken once growing up. Rufus. That thing was great! For obvious reasons, it had a bed outside, but each morning when my brother and I went out to play, rufus tagged along on most of our in the woods adventures. He liked us a lot, and enjoyed gentle petting right along the back of his neck, and would make little happy sounds. Rufus got eaten, not by us, but by something that lives outside, but it was a fun year.
@Leon, I've never tried a whistle. When I do tones, or simple changes, the dogs perk right up. They like pure tones a lot. Sometimes the cats will listen, but not often. The next time we have a young one, I'm going to try it.
Cats are fragile with disease. We've had to fight off lots of things. Frustrating too, because I never could quite deal with indoor only cats. They have too much fun outside, and are fun to watch hunt 'n play, or to play with. Mine will "hunt" me from a really sneaky vantage point, pouncing for a land on the shoulder, when I'm not looking. I feel it, then this furry face pokes around to look me right in the eye, close up! Zoey does this regularly. Zoey is my alpha cat right now. She's very close to me having been taken away during the last Labor Day holiday. Ended up in a trailer, or something. We don't know. What we do know is that for 3 months she was gone, only to come home, skin and bones, scared to death. For a month solid, she stayed in the bedroom, and would whine when either my wife, or me were gone for any length of time. Had bad dreams too. Kitty PTSD, I guess. Now, she's fine, but never far from either of us, and if I'm off the work schedule, she gets annoyed. If my wife leaves, she's absolutely upset, and will thrash the place until she returns.
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Long hair, short, pure bred, mix, male, female? Indoor, or outdoor, or both?
What made you decide to get one?
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Babbage loves chewing bones. He even goes through the rubbish and gets one for himself if I don't give it to him.
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One of his predecessors used to follow me part of the way to where I worked, about 10 minutes walk away, then go back to the estate and scratch on the door of an elderly lady who lived near me until she let him in. He'd spend the day with her, then every day at 5 pm, he'd demand to be let out, and be waiting for me at the end of the road. I haven't a clue how he judged the time so accurately, perhaps he recognised a TV or radio programme that came on at that time. His brother used to make his way to a family about 100 yards away every day and expect to be fed. Another one used to follow me to the supermarket, about 5 minutes away, wait outside until I'd done my shopping, and follow me home.
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Post Edited (Leon) : 12/3/2009 6:23:43 PM GMT
I hope you don't mind: I adjusted the brightness and contrast of your new avatar a little to bring out the highlights and did a little CSI-style sharpening:
-Phil
Post Edited (Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)) : 12/4/2009 12:01:53 AM GMT
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Here is the original:
www.leonheller.com/Cat/DSC_0002.JPG
as taken on my Nikon D80.
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Post Edited (Leon) : 12/4/2009 7:06:58 PM GMT
A pic for you (smiles), and since we're talking about cats, a pic of mine.
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Instead of:
"Those who can, do.· Those who can't, teach." (Shaw)
I prefer:
"Those who know, do.· Those who understand, teach." (Aristotle)
For what little it's worth: even though I don't like cats, I like the new picture. (Of course a dog would be better, but his golden eyes kinda make up for the usual feline deficiencies, I spoze.)
I guess as long as he doesn't pee in all your shoes, like my wife's former cat enjoyed doing to mine, then you're ahead of the game.
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Amateur radio callsign: G1HSM
Post Edited (Leon) : 12/5/2009 5:42:33 PM GMT
I think so, too. Ever since we hominids learned to bash in the skulls of their saber-toothed ancestors a couple million years ago and transformed ourselves from prey to predator, cats have harbored many hostilities and insecurities. As for me, even after 2 million years, I'm still holding a grudge.
And a stick.
-Phil
(I make costumes)
some that are blinky !www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytCKtzE9nNw
BTW my cat
Used to wear a tracking collar I made a L O N G time ago ..
I used a small PicAix (sorry a BS2 was too big) to pulse a 315 Mhz ABACOM radio with his name and other stuff(
then i used my T-Hunting beam and a scanner to track him ..
I Just got in to APRS last week so there might have to be a new version made soon
As far as Names go .. I like coricopat (Tom) or taintomile (Queen)
I friend in class here named his cat TUX after Linux ..
to Quote TSE ."" The Naming of Cats is a difficult matter,
It isn't just one of your holiday games;
You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
When I tell you, a cat must have THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.""
Peter..
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"Carpe Ducktum" "seize the tape!!"
peterthethinker.com/tesla/Venom/Venom.html