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Anyone ever hack a Peek?

phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
edited 2009-09-29 18:01 in General Discussion
Target had these on clearance for $7.47. I figured that for that price it might be worthwhile to hack since it has a color LCD, qwerty keypad, rechargeable battery, and AC adapter. Has anyone ever hacked into one before? I will be opening mine soon to see what components are inside.
www.getpeek.com
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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-09-09 19:37
    That looks like a great hack platform! If you buy one and can get it open, let me know.

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  • phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
    edited 2009-09-10 00:21
    I bought one and the display looks pretty good. The case is actually aluminum and not cheap plastic. I haven't taken it apart yet because I found out that there are people trying to port Linux to it and I thought that I would like to try that first if they get it working. I also thought that this would make a slick input and display device for a propeller.
  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-10 00:47
    I'm going to Targee (pronounced in French) to grab a couple of these! thanks for bringing to our attention, phishguy! - Howard

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-09-11 19:18
    Next time I am in the us I will have to pick one up. Add an infrared transiever and this would make a cool remote.

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-11 19:20
    I'll be taking the bandsaw (hehehe) to one here this weekend ...

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  • phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
    edited 2009-09-11 19:40
    @CounterRotatingProps
    Let me know if you find any good ways to interface to this thing. I still haven't taken mine apart because I was waiting to see if the people trying to get Linux to work on it have any success. I do know that it has a serial port connection available on the charger connector. If a program could be developed for this that had a serial RS232 command based graphics driver and send out ASCII keyboard codes, it would be a slick interface for the Propeller.

    The bandsaw might be a little overkill.freaked.gif I think that I'll go with using a torx screwdriver. If that doesn't work, I'll progress to the power tools. (I don't have a bandsaw. But, I do have a chainsaw. Do you think that will work?)

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-09-11 19:51
    Chain saw overkill pick up a cheap dremel they are so useful

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  • phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
    edited 2009-09-11 20:01
    A dremel tool? What's the fun in that? More power!
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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-09-11 20:08
    I have used mine to cut tile, steal, glass, and makes great drill press for pcb. Some times 60000rpm is better then a slower more powerful engiNe.

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  • phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
    edited 2009-09-11 20:13
    You do realize we were kidding, don't you? I do use a dremel tool at work quite often.
  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-09-11 21:12
    Figured chain saw was joke

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-11 21:18
    phishguy said...

    You do realize we were kidding, don't you? I do use a dremel tool at work quite often

    I wasn't ...

    if the bandsaw doesn't work, then I'll take out the plasma cutter [noparse]:)[/noparse])

    ... And then I'll follow your Avatar Squirrel pal with a beer --- man that's funny !

    And yes, of course, I'm kidding...

    Phish - can you post the links to where people are talking about Linux'ing this thing?

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  • phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
    edited 2009-09-11 21:24
    Oh gosh, there are so many links. Just do a search for peek linux.



    It took me forever to teach that dang squirrel to open my beer. Then the SOB started drinking it.






    Post Edited (phishguy) : 9/11/2009 9:32:33 PM GMT
  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-11 21:57
    Is that a PBR to the left?
    At least you taught him some good taste ;-P

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  • edited 2009-09-11 22:32
    I googled it and it has 16 megabytes of flash memory and a TI OMAP processor.

    It would be fun to interface.
  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-11 23:04
    Yeah, the OMAP is pretty slick

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  • edited 2009-09-12 02:22
    I found what appears to be the development platform but it is $1150 and Digikey sells it for $1299.41.

    The product is for high volume manufacturers so good luck in getting a datasheet apart from buying the development platform.

    It is probably best to let someone else do the work, keep an eye on what others are doing and possibly adapt it later unless you have deep pockets and can afford it.
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  • Guns of FunGuns of Fun Posts: 26
    edited 2009-09-12 18:16
    My wife is taking my daughter clothes shopping at Target, so I told her to get me the cheapest one (even if its pink).· I hope they are still still on clearance,·but if not they are only $15.· Sounds like its going to be a fun project.
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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-12 19:14
    At my Target, they were $10.50 on clearance - but the pink one is $13.79. No difference in functionality - just expensive pink [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    These devices are so nice, it's almost a shame to hack them. I am impressed with it so far. Then again, we shall improve the scope of their use, eh?

    I bought three - one to sacrifice, one to prototype, and one *maybe* to use as it was intended.

    [noparse][[/noparse]Some pics to follow...]

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-12 19:41
    peek001.jpg·Wallwart is USB 5v @700mA bat is LiI 3.7v, 700mAh.

    Keys are tiny, but have solid detent.· For as small as it is, the screen seems pretty big, c.a.·2" x 1.5"

    peek002.jpg·On/Off on top corner, nice digital scroll wheel, button on side below wheel.

    All feel like good quality components.

    peek003.jpg·The ubiquitous USB port - our doorway to voltage - and hackdom?· It's got some odd sliced openning there on the top back side - not sure yet what it's for.

    peek004.jpg·Batt.compartment case open... eeww ... two labels that say "DO NOT REMOVE" ... of course, they are the first things to come off...

    peek005.jpgWell, ok then. One (left center) was a "Void your warranty 'cause you·unscrewed this screw." But the other (center above bar code serial nums)·looks far more interesting... It looks like it might be a flash card.

    Well folks, Phish is right. I won't need to take the bandsaw or the plasma cutter to get further in... Torx will do. (What ever happened to the good-old, adult-proof case?)

    This is nothing so far... just wetting the whistle for more fun ...·Anyone further along?



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  • phishguyphishguy Posts: 36
    edited 2009-09-12 19:46
    I believe that the card you see is the SIM card for the GPRS cellular modem.
  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-12 19:53
    Oops forgot one... screen's pretty clear... monster sized battery icon during charge (can that be saved? [noparse]:)[/noparse]·... it also has an alert vibrator... lot's of goodies for the price!

    peek006.jpg



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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-12 19:55
    phishguy said...
    I believe that the card you see is the SIM card for the GPRS cellular modem.
    Oh, of course that would make sense - I hadn't actually thought yet about *how* it might work [noparse]:)[/noparse])

    Hack first, think later ... or some such rolleyes.gif

    I've always wondered ... are those SIM cards easily accessable, or is it common to mangle/encrypt the data ?

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-13 02:29
    Chuckz said...it has 16 megabytes of flash memory and a TI OMAP processor
    Chuck, do you think you can find that link again?· This might be their other device (see below).

    There's conflicting info out there... the one I've got may have only 8 megs.···
    It is said·to be·a TI ARM7 - but not sure which yet till I crack it open [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    LINUX on Peek:
    http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Peek-Presents-Challenge-Linux-on-Peek

    TI Supports Linux open source on it's omap platforms:
    http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbusplashcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&contentId=4752

    Several sources state that they think this may be the cheapest Linux device out there to date.
    @Phish - if you can still get them at $7.47 - maybe you outta snarf up a bag full :^)

    @Chuckz - indeed this could be a cool, smart interface to a Prop.· And considering that the Peek.com rates are $15/month and going down (read rumors that they were even considering *free* access - how??) ... had an offer for 9.99 /mon unlimited.·· Get Linux going, hook up a Prop and a·Parallax/Grand GPS, sending SMS out on the 3G network - and you've got one inexpensive live datalogger/tracker.·T-mobile is the Peek carrier.

    Tangental Aside Note: These devices do ONLY email BUT ...

    For those of you who've not looked at the peek site, there's another version called the "Pronto" - it can do PDF's and Word Docs ... that device costs $70. Considering that the first Amazon Kindle is $200, their new one @$300,·and Sony's reader·~$250 the Pronto's not too shabby. Granted, it can't do the book formats, but most of the stuff we read any more is html, word docs, or PDF. [noparse][[/noparse]RANT] and how the *heck* did PDF get to be the defacto document standard? PDF=Pretty Demented Format. [noparse][[/noparse]/RANT]

    - H

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    Post Edited (CounterRotatingProps) : 9/13/2009 2:39:43 AM GMT
  • HollyMinkowskiHollyMinkowski Posts: 1,398
    edited 2009-09-13 19:04
    OMG! if this is ARM7 based then I want me some.

    I'm off to see what sort of hack sites are up and running for this device.

    What a super find!

    Just found this info on a site...


    Basic Specifications
    320x240 TFT LCD
    47 Key QWERTY keyboard
    360 degree jogwheel with button
    Vibrator Motor
    Small Speaker
    Side Push Button
    Top Power Button
    Standard SIM Socket
    Micro-B USB Charging Socket
    Internal Coin Backup Battery
    E-Mail Notification LED
    Battery Door Contacts Switch
    ARM7 @104Mhz, (Host processor)
    2.5-Mbit SRAM, single-cycle access @104MHz
    1.5-Mbit ROM (Midi, JPEG… ) single-cycle access @104MHz
    16-Kw ARM/cDSP RAM I/F (API), 2-cycle @104Mhz

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  • edited 2009-09-14 00:12
    CounterRotatingProps said...
    Chuckz said...it has 16 megabytes of flash memory and a TI OMAP processor
    Chuck, do you think you can find that link again?· This might be their other device (see below).

    There's conflicting info out there... the one I've got may have only 8 megs.···
    It is said·to be·a TI ARM7 - but not sure which yet till I crack it open [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    I was a little hesitant to post the links.

    The inside of the Peek:
    http://hackaday.com/2008/09/15/peek-email-reader-teardown/

    LoCosto platform:
    http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=15408&navigationId=12656&templateId=6123

    This might be the part you have to buy and you all need to confirm that:
    http://omapzoom.org/

    It is available from Digikey:
    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=US&WT.z_homepage_link=hp_go_button&KeyWords=MDP-OMAP3430-10-256512R&x=15&y=22
  • ManetherenManetheren Posts: 117
    edited 2009-09-15 11:49
    It would be really nice to be able to take this apart and put a microsd card in place of the current ram. Not sure how to go about doing that yet though. Anyone taken it apart and used the parts in projects yet??

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-15 16:15
    Workin' it [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    @Chuckz: (assuming I'm guessing your hesitancy) don't worry, we all venture off into other processors and devices, but always return faithfully to the MotherShip [noparse]:)[/noparse])

    Thanks for the links!

    - H

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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2009-09-15 16:48
    Agree'd! I spent a couple weeks hacking Xbox stuff.. You guys will be back.. [noparse]:)[/noparse] [noparse]:)[/noparse] [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Those pics don't make the peek look very hack friendly. I've hesitated making the
    45min drive to Targotto (Beau [noparse]:)[/noparse] to purchase one until I see if you guys can really
    make a go with it.

    OBC

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-15 20:25
    First software hack (actually I got it from cust service [noparse]:)[/noparse] :

    Go to the registration page, don't enter anything, scroll down to 'email' field and type

    #peek-cit#

    very interesting...

    If you have the correct version (the oldest ones it seems) they will upgrade you free to a Pronto ($59) - you just have to mail it to them. Call cust service to check your version.

    > Those pics don't make the peek look very hack friendly

    it actually is easy to open - four T-6 torx screws and a snap case. Got it open in < 2min. Closed again in < 3 ... and it still works <hehehe>. Yes, the connectors are very small, so this could be difficult. But there are several 'mystery' pads (6 and 1) that look interesting.

    Here's the next exploded view (sorry, crappy webcam):


    peek007.jpg

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