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POLL: Propeller I/O options

Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
edited 2009-06-19 04:07 in Propeller 1
POLL: (There are a couple of us interested in this statistic)

QUESTION 1:
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What type of video connection do you use most often with the Propeller?

VGA
Composite (TV)
LCD display (not counting those supporting TV-in)
Other (specify)

QUESTION 2:
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Do you use a mouse with your propeller setup?

POLL RESULTS AS OF: 6/17/09

VGA                  :**********
COMPOSITE TV   :*****************
LCD                   :******
OTHER               :*************

MOUSE              :****




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Post Edited (Oldbitcollector) : 6/17/2009 1:56:56 PM GMT
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  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2009-06-16 00:30
    Oldbitcollector said...

    Composite (TV)
    Other (specify) - Native USB (HID & ACM)
    Do you use a mouse with your propeller setup? - Never
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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-06-16 00:31
    1. in order, most to least:

    VGA - it's hooked up almost all the time
    TV - with a wire stuck out the RCA jack --- it'll transmit > 3 feet to the rabbit ears [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    Other (OK USB does count, I guess)
    LCD

    2. yes, about 50% of the time

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  • SeariderSearider Posts: 290
    edited 2009-06-16 00:32
    Q1: LCD (4x20) and Serial to PST
    Q2: No

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  • kuronekokuroneko Posts: 3,623
    edited 2009-06-16 00:36
    Q1: TV Capture card, occasionally TV
    Q2: No
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2009-06-16 00:42
    QUESTION 1: Most stuff I'm working on is mobile, so I use Tim's Composite LCD.

    QUESTION 2: Haven't really found a use for it yet, but do use a keyboard from time to time (Femto Basic)

    Jim
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2009-06-16 01:22
    Interesting question but why stop there OBC. I like to have both TV and VGA but the traditional connectors are bulky. I have been using a standard RJ-45 jack with 8 pins which gives me my VGA + TV + audio. If I want VGA then I simply plug in an RJ45 to DE15 (DB15S) cable for VGA and so on. Also, the RJ45 cables and crimp connectors are as common as ethernet, funny that.

    As to the mouse I must admit that I have not used it other than for demos but I keep my options open there too. Besides, the standard PS/2 connector can have either mouse or keyboard plugged in and I had an older laptop that had a single PS/2 connector and if you wanted to use both an external keyboard and external mouse then they had a splitter that you could use. Normally there are two unused pins on the PS/2 connector and it quite common for these to be a secondary PS/2 port en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_connector . Personally I just use the other two pins for the I2C bus so that I can at a pinch plug in external I/O onto the PS/2 which BTW could just as easily use the PS/2 CLK & DAT.

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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-06-16 01:28
    Q1: TV more than VGA.
    Q2: Rarely use mouse.

    I use a PC for things I might need a VGA/Mouse for on Propeller. One of my goals for end of June was to have a VGA/Mouse textured GUI demo though. Guess this response kind of shows how far I am with that [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • John AbshierJohn Abshier Posts: 1,116
    edited 2009-06-16 01:35
    Q1: Mostly PST to computer. Rarely Composite TV. Robots use serial LCDs and/or XBee
    Q2: Never

    John Abshier
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2009-06-16 01:41
    4x20 & 2x16 LCDs, serial and parallel

    Haven't used a mouse yet.

    Rich H
  • ratronicratronic Posts: 1,451
    edited 2009-06-16 01:45
    Hi, I use both vga & tv and rarely use the mouse

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-06-16 01:47
    A1: NTSC video
    A2: First time was this past week.

    -Phil
  • mynet43mynet43 Posts: 644
    edited 2009-06-16 01:49
    VGA or PST

    LCD rarely

    7-Seg display digits, sometimes.

    TV never

    Mouse never
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-16 02:05
    t.v only

    never on mouse

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  • RossHRossH Posts: 5,512
    edited 2009-06-16 02:14
    1. VGA & Composite (TV)

    2. Yes

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  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,706
    edited 2009-06-16 02:26
    1. VGA 80%, PAL 20%
    2. Mouse only occasionally.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2009-06-16 03:02
    To question 1: I use a VGA because it looks more scientific than a TV (and the lab rats can't switch it to watch Spongebob Squarepants).

    To question 2: I use a mouse because it gives me the ability to drill through menus on the VGA and to display data and to change the values of variables on the fly.

    Thanks so much for caring. smile.gif
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-06-16 03:19
    1. Tv primarily, 4x20LCD secondary
    2. Not yet.

    If only the forum poll function were enabled...
  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2009-06-16 03:28
    1) NTSC Composite Video on a TV
    2) Mouse and Keyboard

    * addtl. feature for 2x20 and 4x20 LCDs
    * extra ports available
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2009-06-16 03:49
    Q1. Monitor
    PC via USB 98% (PropPlug equiv with PropTerminal, PST, PropTool)
    VGA 2% (used for testing)
    TV 0% (but tested it works)
    LCD 0% (never)
    Q2. Mouse
    no, never tested
    Keyboard 2% (used for testing)

    However, with more time I expect to use VGA and Keyboard for standalone operation (PropDOS, CPM & ZiCog, Flex or OMU & MoCog, and maybe Apple //e)

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  • mparkmpark Posts: 1,305
    edited 2009-06-16 04:30
    1. NTSC TV
    2. mouse yes but rarely
  • nohabnohab Posts: 96
    edited 2009-06-16 05:53
    Mostly PST to computer (specially for debugging)
    Sometimes LCD 2x16 or 4x20

    Mouse, not so far.
  • MagIO2MagIO2 Posts: 2,243
    edited 2009-06-16 07:02
    Q1: TV (Timothys LCD) - sooner or later I like to try the PSP LCD
    Q2: no - but I recently found this little cutie http://www.csd-electronics.de/data/pdf/MiniTrackball.pdf
    ····· PS: Do mouse wheels count? I plan to rip off two mouse wheels from old mice and connect directly to the prop. Gives me a nice x/y input device (menu navigation).

    Post Edited (MagIO2) : 6/16/2009 9:50:11 AM GMT
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2009-06-16 09:05
    Following on from Peter's comments...

    I too have considered trying to replace the VGA connector with something smaller. I wanted something that could be purchased (cable) rather than having to make it. I have not had any luck. While I like the RJ45, I think it is more likely in future we are going to see ethernet on the pcbs and this will confuse people. However, I would like something that we could standardise on.
    Using the RJ45: cables can be bought readily. The RJ45 to DB9 unpinned socket can be bought fairly easily. The VGA DB15 is the same size (and if readily available - I haven't checked) could be substituted. The only issue is the multiple ground pins - are they all required??

    The new TwinBlade (when I finish it :-( ) will have...

    One PS2 socket with both Keyboard and Mouse on it. If you just want one, then plug it in. Otherwise buy a splitter cable on eBay cheaply.

    The TV will use the 4 way 3.5mm audio/video socket (from DigiKey - the smt version is nicer and easy to solder onto a designed pcb). There are various pinouts for this. I have chosen the Apple iPod/iPhone format (defined on the wiki). It contains composite video and stereo out. A splitter cable to RCA (red, white and yellow) can be obtained cheaply on eBay.

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  • AleAle Posts: 2,363
    edited 2009-06-16 09:40
    Q1: I use VGA most of the time, one project has a LCD with T6963 controller, another a 640x480 controller-less LCD

    Q2: Can you connect a mouse to the propeller ? lol.gif

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  • max72max72 Posts: 1,155
    edited 2009-06-16 10:11
    Q1: 4X20 LCD or PST 99% of the time

    Q2: never
  • Ron SutcliffeRon Sutcliffe Posts: 420
    edited 2009-06-16 10:25
    Q1: TV or Serial Terminal

    Q2: No
  • KyeKye Posts: 2,200
    edited 2009-06-16 13:40
    VGA w/ mouse and keyboard

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  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2009-06-16 14:45
    TV, mostly on capture card. 80 percent capture, 20 percent real, CRT Television.

    Mouse, on occasion.

    Keyboard, frequently.

    I've ran VGA twice. Once to see the demo Linus wrote, and the other time to run his pre-demo work. I've ignored it otherwise.

    For me, the problem is portability. VGA doesn't travel well.

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  • pgbpsupgbpsu Posts: 460
    edited 2009-06-16 16:49
    I use PST via USB-to-serial cable 95% of the time. No VGA, No TV.
    never used mouse or keyboard.
  • QuattroRS4QuattroRS4 Posts: 916
    edited 2009-06-16 17:35
    Q1 - VGA
    Q2 - Yes

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