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mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
edited 2009-06-29 20:14 in General Discussion
· I ordered $35 from a guy on this forum. 3 weeks ago he sent e-mail asking if I recieved merch. I said No. I waited another week for U.S.P.S. to bring it and nothing. I have not recieved answer to any e-mail for 2 weeks now.
· I payed with it thru paypal.
·· I am not worried about the $35 and I highly doubt the guy is trying to rip me off. I assume its a simple mistake somewhere but what upsets me is the lack of communication.
· The person doesn't have a webpage and I am not going to identify him at this stage.

· Has anyone here ordered from someone and not recieved their stuff? I feel it's my duty to share this info so the next guy doesn't get the same treatment. I post it here because I contacted the guy from this forum. I·love this forum and would do nothing to tarnish it's name in any way.
· This is the first time I have ever had any problem ordering anything on the internet and would like some advice on what I should do.

Don

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Post Edited (mosquito56) : 6/25/2009 9:23:50 PM GMT
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  • UnsoundcodeUnsoundcode Posts: 1,532
    edited 2009-06-12 18:22
    Hi, hopefully you will receive your merchandise , and $35 is an amount to be concerned about. Unless the other party has a really good reason it is extremely rude and frustrating not to reply.

    I have used paypal with ebay and I know there is a certain time in which you can raise a complaint , I would look into what actions you might take , and if there is a time limit don't let it expire.

    Hope it works out , if not you will have to write off to experience.

    Jeff T
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-12 18:26
    I am not in the slightest worried about $35. It wasn't thru ebay but does paypal have a way to return my money?

    I plan to post a negative review on him thru paypal but since I can't get ahold of him I would post this to see if he gets the message. For all I know he's on vacation.

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  • VaatiVaati Posts: 712
    edited 2009-06-12 18:35
    Well, someone offered me an SX blitz, free of charge. I mean, that is something that I couldn't pass up on. smile.gif The person said they would ship it in the first week of March. I haven't received it yet, and gave up on the hope of it coming.

    I guess since it was offered for free, it doesn't really matter... It just bugs me that they said they'd ship it, and nothing ever came...

    Ah well. I guess I really shouldn't be complaining, but then again... =|

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-06-12 22:31
    From the two people people that I've ordered from (Cluso and PhillDaPill) I've had good experiences. They've responded promptly and kept me updated.
  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2009-06-12 22:42
    Who exactly is this guy?

    You should PM him if he is on this forum.

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  • ForrestForrest Posts: 1,341
    edited 2009-06-12 23:26
    I have had difficulty with someone on this forum - I never received the item. This was eventually, successfully resolved with the seller. The dollar amount was less than $15.

    FYI if you want to dispute the charge thru Paypal, it must be done within 30 days of making payment.

    Good luck
  • mikedivmikediv Posts: 825
    edited 2009-06-13 00:31
    mosquito56 I have bought some stuff from the guys here and had no problems most here are a good bunch and we know each other, well online here anyway. I fully understand your frustration and you seem like a decent guy not posting his name "YET"
    but to be honest if he does not correct this situation with you 35 dollars or not you should post his name so the rest of us know better than to trust him, hopefully like you said its just a misunderstanding I like having the confidence to be able to send money
    to some of the people here that are selling their wares and plan to continue ,,its a nice little community we have here. Please keep us posted as to what is happening
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-13 00:54
    Mike,·· Well said and I agree completly. I am posting here and waiting 2 weeks to post his name. I have to report to paypal on monday as it has already been 3 weeks since I paid him.

    We have a great bunch of folks on this forum.

    Glad to hear good words about cluso and philadil, I have been thinking of trying some of their stufff.



    Btw, I just ordered ANOTHER $100 from ucontroller so you can see I highly approve of his service.


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  • mikedivmikediv Posts: 825
    edited 2009-06-13 01:36
    mosquito56,, Yea don't miss your opportunity to file with paypal I think we all would agree you have been very patient.. Its to bad it seems there always has to be at least one guy that has to go against the grain. Lets just hope it is just something simple that can be resolved.
    I can tell you first hand Phil is a good guy and ships what he sells, Others have told me Cluso is very trust worthy and Rayman is offering some very nice stuff I plan to buy.
    I can not afford to be wasteful with my money these days ( who can) and to be honest this is the only site I will buy stuff from the actual members I have been burned by eBay so many times I don't even go there anymore. This is mainly my hobby these days
    one of life's very simple well not simple pleasures LOL good luck man I am sure everyone is watching this post maybe you could just send this guy a copy of these posts as a friendly reminder if he ever plans on doing business here again.
  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-06-13 04:51
    I have had no problemS with Forum members not sipping what they said. I have ordered lots from ucontroler and he is great.

    I think a sticky where people can post positIve or negative feed back would be good. I sell my stuff on here and think those of us that do, oh it to parallax and the community to be honest and an easy way for the community to keep us accountable is a must.

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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2009-06-13 04:59
    I would trust 99% of the folks here, and have on occasion dealt with
    several and have had good results. I don't think it's Parallax's
    responsibility to govern in these matters, and I really don't want them
    to take the role of Ebay.

    It would be best to deal with the individual in question privately
    instead of creating doubts in the minds of the group regarding
    the many who conduct themselves in a professional and upright manner.

    If you used Paypal to make payment, they have dispute resolution
    which works extremely well and I would avail yourself of it.
    The person will be given time to either make good or refund,
    after which Paypal will deal accordingly.

    My two cents, and with another buck you can get a cup of coffee in
    the morning.. (a small cup.)

    OBC

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  • Toby SeckshundToby Seckshund Posts: 2,027
    edited 2009-06-13 13:53
    It is so important to hold trust. Over her in the UK we are getting to know, for sure, what a devious and selfserving goverment we have. The net result is that all the people are tarred with the same brush, inocent or not.

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  • tperkinstperkins Posts: 98
    edited 2009-06-13 14:07
    I don't think I've had a problem with anyone here, I think I've had a problem with the USPS.

    When my first order was shipped off into the ether, and never arrived, Phildapill shipped another set of kits.

    I cannot recommend the USPS under any circumstances.

    Yours, Tom Perkins
  • Ole Man EarlOle Man Earl Posts: 262
    edited 2009-06-13 15:20
    I have NEVER EVER had a problem with USPS. I have had problems with UPS and FEDX. USPS is much less expensive and FAR more reliable and if you have a tracking number you can track it.
    I have a ranch, my house is 1/2 mile from the hwy. Fedex delivered 11 packages and left them near door to house. Horses ate the boxes. I have a sign at the gate. STILL waiting to resolve a settlement with Fedex. For the 3rd time they refuse to make good.
  • edited 2009-06-13 16:26
    tperkins said...
    I don't think I've had a problem with anyone here, I think I've had a problem with the USPS.

    When my first order was shipped off into the ether, and never arrived, Phildapill shipped another set of kits.

    I cannot recommend the USPS under any circumstances.

    Yours, Tom Perkins
    My packages seem to get a little more bumped around with USPS.

    USPS (United States Postal System) does have tracking numbers but their tracking numbers are based on the honor system because the mailman can leave the package with your neighbor and say it is delivered.· They can also leave the package on your doorstep and someone can come and take it.

    The only problem I've had with UPS (United Parcel) is they have the ability with their computer boards to cut and paste my name when I haven't signed.

    It is important to follow up.· I hope this helps.
  • tperkinstperkins Posts: 98
    edited 2009-06-13 16:55
    My other recent bad experience with the USPS is that I sent the IRS a form they needed, I sent it certified mail.

    I have green card back that says it has an IRS received stamp on it, but they swear they never got it and the tracking number on the USPS provided certificate cannot be tracked by their system.

    I watched the USPS counter employee fill out the paperwork for the whole thing, and they still couldn't make their own system work.

    My experience is the USPS works well for small envelopes. The larger the package, the more likely you are to be disappointed.

    Regards, Tom Perkins
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-13 17:16
    I just recieved a msg from him, he put wrong zip code on package and it was returned to him. He was on vacation.· He seems very sorry.

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  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2009-06-13 18:52
    tperkins said...
    My other recent bad experience with the USPS is that I sent the IRS a form they needed, I sent it certified mail.

    I have green card back that says it has an IRS received stamp on it, but they swear they never got it and the tracking number on the USPS provided certificate cannot be tracked by their system.

    I watched the USPS counter employee fill out the paperwork for the whole thing, and they still couldn't make their own system work.

    My experience is the USPS works well for small envelopes. The larger the package, the more likely you are to be disappointed.

    Regards, Tom Perkins
    @ Tom
    That's a bad one to get lost! But it sounds like USPS did their job and the IRS lost it. It would be nice if Return Receipt was trackable. Is use USPS Express for those things which are trackable, (like UPS).

    I have shipped out well over 400·ebay packages via Priority Express over the last 4 years, and have never lost one! About 30 of those were overseas. And I always order most of my stuff from Parallax via Priority. Cheaper than UPS and it gets here sooner!

    My UPS expierences have been less than stellar. They seem to send all my packages to the special "Box Crusher" room before they deliver to me. Maybe they know I'm a Yankee that moved south. tongue.gif

    @mosquito56
    Glad to hear the happy ending

    I also would like to add Timothy at Brilldea.com to the "angels" list. Posts from Honk Kong are very reasonable cost and on always on time.

    Jim
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-13 19:33
    Sorry still no happy ending, just got a response. Will post when package arrives.

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  • Toby SeckshundToby Seckshund Posts: 2,027
    edited 2009-06-13 19:52
    Having watched many couriers handle other people's goods, in front of me, whilst they "carefully" retrive our bits I am amazed when anything arrives unbroken. The stronger the packing just leads to harder throwing, marking it "FRAGILE" is Klingon for ******* kick it, and ******* kick it good!

    I have had to travel the lenth of the UK to either fix something that was fixed or actually take the kit because we couldn't take the risk. I know the UK is not that big, but you try and get 200 miles and back again without having packed provisions !

    The UK post is not devoid of peole who peek at the contents.
  • WNedWNed Posts: 157
    edited 2009-06-13 20:51
    Very glad to read that the issue is near resolution... but what happened in between, "He seems very sorry" and "Still no happy ending"?

    Ned

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  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-13 21:02
    I recieved an e-mail this morning(he's sorry)·but still haven't recieved the package(no happy ending).

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  • mikedivmikediv Posts: 825
    edited 2009-06-14 00:33
    mctrivia I think that is an awesome idea especially since all you have to do is read the posts here more and more people are selling their designs and products and I think that is awesome, But I totally agree with you , It
    would not require Parallax to police or monitor anything,, but a sticky with who is being honest and fair and who can not be trusted as posted by us Forum members is ,like I said a very good idea.



    mosquito56 I hate to be skeptical but it just sounds fishy I hope I am wrong maybe some people just don't understand how badly we want something when we order it, I am like a big kid waiting for UPS I even go out and meet the guy in my driveway I get so excited. lol

    Well at a minimum he doesn't sound like a very caring person and the zip code thing I don't know maybe but if was UPS they usually make an attempt to correct any errors I have actually shipped packages with the wrong zip code and misspelled name
    and it was delivered. But who knows like I said I am skeptic keep us posted.
  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-06-14 01:40
    I have ordered items from other people on the forum and other people have ordered items from me. I have had great expiernences and I hope others would say the same about ordering from Brilldea.

    Speaking from a product/service provider I can say that at times life is really busy and sometimes I am slow to respond to e-mail. I had an incident this past week where I was traveling. My whole trip was busy, busy and I got sick. To boot my internet was so-so (maybe more of a computer problem than an internet problem). I went a few days without getting the Brilldea e-mails and it caused trouble for a few of my clients.

    I am just starting to catch up now but I still have a backlog of e-mails that are a week old or more. I try to keep Brilldea professional and at the forefront of customer services by responding quickly, but I think I can speak for others that are running the business as a side business that it can be hard when life gets busy.

    I like the idea of maintaining some list of reputable people/companies to buy from for Propeller products. Parallax kind of does this already through their site with listing some of the products from various companies.

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  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-14 07:46
    Of the original $35 payment I recieved a $20 refund from paypal and an e-mail saying he is sending total order on Monday plus a few goodies. Happy ending in sight....

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  • ColeyColey Posts: 1,112
    edited 2009-06-14 11:50
    I've watched this thread with great interest as someone who has shipped Prop boards all over the world (and received from all over the world too).

    Recently I shipped three small boards at the same time by Royal Mail in the UK, two boards to the US and one to Australia.

    The board to Australia took 4 days the boards that went to the US took over four weeks!!!!

    Now the only thing I could think of that held it up was either US customs or USPS, take your pick...

    My point is that for cheaper shipping costs you take a chance on how long it takes, UPS FEDEX and the rest charge a premium for direct courier delivery, if you want the boards so badly then ask the shipper for the direct courier service.

    I'm not against an 'angels' list but as with most things in life your reputation which takes an age to build up can be destroyed overnight by one disgruntled customer, when the fault may not even be with the shipper.

    Things will always go wrong, especially when you are on vacation.....that's life.
    Most of us only do this for fun, there's not enough volume or margin to make a living out of it or we'd all be doing it, that means we haven't got a customer services team on hand to answer queries mostly we deal with things when we are not doing our day job just like the rest of you.

    The true test of any supplier is not how fast they can ship you something, it's how they deal with it when things do go wrong as they often do.

    Recently I purchased an LCD from Brillidea, it arrived in good time which I was impressed with but alas it had a very small fault.
    I emailed Timothy about it and he responded straight away and shipped a replacement out immediately, how about that for great customer service! For that reason alone I would buy from him again....

    OBC has it nailed here...
    OBC said...
    It would be best to deal with the individual in question privately
    instead of creating doubts in the minds of the group regarding
    the many who conduct themselves in a professional and upright manner.

    Regards,

    Coley

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  • Toby SeckshundToby Seckshund Posts: 2,027
    edited 2009-06-14 12:44
    In the good old days there was only a infitesimal chance that you would be cheated, honour was everything. the kit would be advertized in some journal, the artical would be read and somebody would save up, or think hard and long on spending what little money they had. The post would carry that order to the supplier who would pack the kit and sent it back, in the post. The post would then take it to your door. All of this chain would be in the order of months, from placement of advert, to delivery. Enquiries about the state of that order would be useless as it would have to be done by post which wouldn't have a trace facility anyway. Payment would be by some form of cash or cheque system which could add more delays but could be the one and only proof of the order having been received at all.

    Nowerdays we all in fear being ripped off. We expect constant, instant, comunications from an instant advertizement, instant order, instant payment. Then the payment systems place a ticking clock on you. Who needs on line poker
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2009-06-15 16:17
    This thread is off topic in this forum and is being moved to the Sandbox Forum.

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  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2009-06-19 07:42
    I got a real sorry email from him last weekend and a $20 refund from ebay but how long· do I wait? He hasn't said he shipped it nothing in almost a week now. Beginning to get really pissed with the silent treatment.

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  • PrettybirdPrettybird Posts: 269
    edited 2009-06-19 09:39
    I ordered some stuff here a few weeks ago and had no problem. I also deal with ebay but seemed to get better results from here so far. Check out prettybird248 on ebay or email me here. I always have something laying around. I also may be interestted in some trades. I am a newbe and happy to get m first bot moving.
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