srlm's is way better than mine. srlm - do you mind if I add it to www.gadgetgangster.com/bossboard? I'll put together an SX & PICaxe version, too.
My biggest complaint about the board is how hard it is to figure out what goes where - part of the problem is that you're using a chip that has 35 i/o, so it's hard to keep track of it all. It's also hard to see the traces - I've been using a sharpie to mark up the board while working on the board, and that's been pretty helpful.
Just a heads up - if you still need boards, you have a day or two to sign up!
@nick
Sure, you can post it on gg. I'll probably work more on it in the next week or so, and get it a little more user friendly and double check all the connections. I also don't like the way that I have the additional chips laid out. I'll probably change that to a semi-transparent style later on.
I think it might be helpful if you were to come up with some sort of standard that all Gadget Gangster board layouts should follow (drawn layouts, that is, not photos). For example, what color is 5V? What color is an I/O pin? What colors can the user dedicate functions to? It's almost like an ASCII style for the colors. This will help standardize across a wide range of you intellectual products.
@Nick,
It looks like, on the PS/2 [noparse][[/noparse]Pm] area on the Boss Board, what would be used as "data" (A23? Second hole from the left--the one that ties back above B26) is also connected to the NES port's "data" line (it's Pin 5 -- top right corner of the board). Is it designed to be an "either/or" and you cut one or the other connection above B26, or am I missing something?
The NES and keyboard share a data out. This is only an issue if you want to use keyboard and NES at the same time, otherwise, it's not a problem. You can run the NES controllers at 5v, I'm not sure if you can work thru it in code (switch drivers), but you can also use the PS/2 Breakout board I have in stock (or use two if you'd like to add mouse AND keyboard).
On the design·I have made, I just cut the trace and it works fine.··I am using the NES port and the USB connector without need of a breakout board.· It does take a little more 'jumpering' than I had originally thought·to get the USB connector to work on that port, but it does work.
I am using· the NES at 3.3V, although in theory I could jumper the +5V connection off of the USB connection to anything with that power requirement (or even power the entire board).··
Oh - that makes sense. Well - the NES controllers are 3.3v & 5v compliant, so I wouldn't worry about that. Cutting the trace is fine, too. The build looks very nice - what's the project?
7 days? My project still isn't done and I am going on a week long vacation tomarow! I guess I won't get to enter my project... time got ahead of me. I guess I can still submit it to gadget gangster since I am a designer, or salvage the parts and make something else to submit to him.
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@Nick,
It is something that mom would love... A way for mom to connect to the PC and see what is going on (a kind of remote file browser). I have been calling it "The Informer."
I am working on getting some of the "kinks" in the PC-side code worked out now that I have the build completed/tested/documented. I am hoping that I will have time between now and the due date to get it working 100% (otherwise I will be in the same sitution as microcontrolled).
My project was going to be a video game timer. It plugged one end into the TV and another end into an input device. When turned on it would detect the input and the video out would switch to the Propeller. You would select the period of time with the controller and press START. at 5 minutes until it would shut down, it would display"Wrap it up! Shutdowm in 5 minutes" at 2 minutes it would display "Save your game! Shutdown in 2 minutes" and at shutdown it would flash a screen that says "Shutdown" This simply took the TV Text object and the NES object. It is a shame I didn't get it finished.
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Don't give up!!· Me, I have to solve my circuit, LEARN SPIN!!· AND program my project as well as its peripherals.· ALL IN 7 DAYS!!· [noparse][[/noparse]I want that Penguin...· ]
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@microcontrolled,
That is a great sounding idea! Definately someting that mom would love (and kids would probably hate [noparse];)[/noparse] Hopefully you can get it done sometime.· Certianly sounds like a fun project.
You most likely not expecting me to respond today because I am supposed to be on a trip. The trip happend to get delayed 2 days but that is still not enough time to get things done. I wish I worked on the project more while I still had a chance but my project still needs parts that I do not have enough time to order, so I will not be finishing it for the competion. I need a 3 volt relay, an RCA jack, and a 3.3v regulator; but I have been in the hole lately and could not afford to order a few parts.
Actully, compared to the video game timers that are currently on the market, this one kids would like more; because it gives you a warning to save your game so that if you loose track of time your progress is not deleated. Also, since it only cuts off the video out it wouldn't ruin your game progress because it doesn't shut down the system. This is the main advantage of the system.
Edit: Don't you dare steal this idea anybody! If there is a contest next year I will build it!
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Oh no... only 3 more days left to win the Penguin! I am determined to win this contest!! Even though I haven't even successfully connected my Propeller to the computer... =(
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I too have encountered problems. I've been working on my project for months (since January) and had kept everything in a food tuppaware to keep it all together. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it. I still have the Boss board with everything soldered on there, but the tuppaware had the blue LEDs that I wanted to use. I guess for this iteration I'll just have to go with green or red... Oh well.
I like the blue LED's but they're expensive. I know Turd was working on a light show project that used them - I wonder how he's doing.
OT, but 2 new projects posted recently: I put up my Xbox Live Headset Amp a few days ago. grandtippler just put up his MemAxe - 8bit Sound Effects Memory Game. He's been able to do some pretty fun (and popular) projects with just a PICaxe 08M - I've been surprised.
I will have only ONE DAY to work on my idea!!!· My Prop Plug didn't come in the mail today!!· Do you think it's possible for me to learn Spin, make my project, program it, and document/submit it all in one day?··· I think it would be cutting it a bit close...
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Ha! I'm not sure that you'd have enough time to do a complicated project - maybe if you limited the scope? Anyway - I posted the gerbers / ExpressPCB / dxf files for the boards, srlm's excellent quick reference, and a version I hacked together for PICaxe, here.
Also, what do you think of QR codes? Does anyone use them? I've added them to project pages, but I'm wondering if it's more of a curiosity than anything else. Also, I redid the Designer Packs Listings. I think this actually makes it easier to find files and guides that relate to development for each ucontroller.
I have the Prop Development Pack, the Prop plug, the USB cable to connect the Prop, the Propeller and the EEPROM of course, a power supply, and a computer to hook my Propeller up to.
It doesn't work.
Is there anything whatsoever that I need to know about hooking the prop up on the boss board?· i.e.; any special things that have to be modified so it can work?· Also, what about the baud rate or whatever it's called and the reset signal?· What do those need to be set on?
Thanks.
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The one thing that I didn't really see explained in those guides was which regulator goes where.· Other than that, I am checking every single connection now.·
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Wait--- Does the Prop work if the other regulator is in....? Also, are all the necessary pins of the prop connected to Vss/Vdd already?
Thanks.
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I checked my circuit with those pdf's twice over, and didn't find anything amiss.· I have some pictures attached of the circuit on the Boss Board, so you can look...
One final question: does flux conduct?· If so, then...· I am in a world of trouble...·
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Okay, I just want to make sure all of this is correct: When I plug in my Prop Plug to the Propeller on the Boss Board and then connect the USB to mini B cable to the Prop Plug and the computer, the blue and red lights blink, then stop. I then plug in the wall-wart and the power LED on the Boss Board turns on. When I hit F7 in order to scan the ports for the Propeller, it says "No Propeller chip found on any serial port. Unable to connect to COM1. Scanned COM4." Can someone explain what that means, and if it's what it's supposed to say?
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Also--- It seems as if the SCL on the EEPROM isn't connected to the Propeller.... Is that so.... ?
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Robots are microcontroled.
I am microcontrolled.
My biggest complaint about the board is how hard it is to figure out what goes where - part of the problem is that you're using a chip that has 35 i/o, so it's hard to keep track of it all. It's also hard to see the traces - I've been using a sharpie to mark up the board while working on the board, and that's been pretty helpful.
Just a heads up - if you still need boards, you have a day or two to sign up!
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Sure, you can post it on gg. I'll probably work more on it in the next week or so, and get it a little more user friendly and double check all the connections. I also don't like the way that I have the additional chips laid out. I'll probably change that to a semi-transparent style later on.
I think it might be helpful if you were to come up with some sort of standard that all Gadget Gangster board layouts should follow (drawn layouts, that is, not photos). For example, what color is 5V? What color is an I/O pin? What colors can the user dedicate functions to? It's almost like an ASCII style for the colors. This will help standardize across a wide range of you intellectual products.
It looks like, on the PS/2 [noparse][[/noparse]Pm] area on the Boss Board, what would be used as "data" (A23? Second hole from the left--the one that ties back above B26) is also connected to the NES port's "data" line (it's Pin 5 -- top right corner of the board). Is it designed to be an "either/or" and you cut one or the other connection above B26, or am I missing something?
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On the design·I have made, I just cut the trace and it works fine.··I am using the NES port and the USB connector without need of a breakout board.· It does take a little more 'jumpering' than I had originally thought·to get the USB connector to work on that port, but it does work.
I am using· the NES at 3.3V, although in theory I could jumper the +5V connection off of the USB connection to anything with that power requirement (or even power the entire board).··
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It is something that mom would love... A way for mom to connect to the PC and see what is going on (a kind of remote file browser). I have been calling it "The Informer."
I am working on getting some of the "kinks" in the PC-side code worked out now that I have the build completed/tested/documented. I am hoping that I will have time between now and the due date to get it working 100% (otherwise I will be in the same sitution as microcontrolled).
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That is a great sounding idea! Definately someting that mom would love (and kids would probably hate [noparse];)[/noparse] Hopefully you can get it done sometime.· Certianly sounds like a fun project.
Actully, compared to the video game timers that are currently on the market, this one kids would like more; because it gives you a warning to save your game so that if you loose track of time your progress is not deleated. Also, since it only cuts off the video out it wouldn't ruin your game progress because it doesn't shut down the system. This is the main advantage of the system.
Edit: Don't you dare steal this idea anybody! If there is a contest next year I will build it!
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Just a few days left - let me know if I need to add anything to the inventory.
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Post Edited (Vaati) : 5/4/2009 5:49:23 PM GMT
OT, but 2 new projects posted recently: I put up my Xbox Live Headset Amp a few days ago. grandtippler just put up his MemAxe - 8bit Sound Effects Memory Game. He's been able to do some pretty fun (and popular) projects with just a PICaxe 08M - I've been surprised.
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Also, what do you think of QR codes? Does anyone use them? I've added them to project pages, but I'm wondering if it's more of a curiosity than anything else. Also, I redid the Designer Packs Listings. I think this actually makes it easier to find files and guides that relate to development for each ucontroller.
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I have the Prop Development Pack, the Prop plug, the USB cable to connect the Prop, the Propeller and the EEPROM of course, a power supply, and a computer to hook my Propeller up to.
It doesn't work.
Is there anything whatsoever that I need to know about hooking the prop up on the boss board?· i.e.; any special things that have to be modified so it can work?· Also, what about the baud rate or whatever it's called and the reset signal?· What do those need to be set on?
Thanks.
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One final question: does flux conduct?· If so, then...· I am in a world of trouble...·
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