I'd like to second the 50-n-1 kit. Bring it back to Radio Shack, next to your stamp line.
Second the home automation. Much of what many hobbyist do is to make our home lives easier (Chris, your car sensor in your garage is an example!).
How about a bias magnet for the hall effect that is smaller? (I've mistakenly blown up both of my sensors...)
I'd personally like to see more RFID/inductor stuff.
What is your relationship with the likes of Sparkfun? Maybe you could work out a deal where both stores were on the same place, so we could get one stop shopping with combined shipping? I doen't really surprise me (cause it would pigeonhole them) that you don't work more closely with them. But, if there was a way where the two of you could start up one "Master" hobbiest website where all the aggregated players can be. Like the one-stop-shop idea. You seem to have the same ideologies towards open source and competition (aka, build a better product and the customers will decide). I suppose my point is that there is enough room in this field (worldwide) that you can all play together, and with a one-stop-shop super hobby site would be cool. Not sure if that came out as clear as it is in my noggin...
It's tough to come up with stuff keeping in mind what your market is. It'd be interesting to hear about what you're thinking yourselves. Areas where you'd like to expand? Market's you like to enter?
sharing the risk of carrying new products for a time-limited period would seem to make sense for both. After that you could agree to disagree on a product by product classification schema... with proportional fees that decline over time[noparse]:)[/noparse]
I have ordered from Sparkfun, but only when I have to... mostly because I don't like the idea of our credit card info traveling anywhere it really doesn't have to.
I don't care where the shipment comes from... but the fewer places I have to go to place an order, the better I like it.
The folks at Sparkfun are wonderful... I called with a really stupid question and my call went straight to the top... everyone was extremely nice ... and very attentive.
So the Sparkfun folks appear to have the same business ethics and attention to detail[noparse]:)[/noparse]
Board level integration is a problem that every hacker seems to get close to eventually ... and from what I see... by combining your board level production experience with Sparkfun's you might be able to justify a shared division of labor and come up with a needed service that will really boosts the market penetration of your products.
Parallax and Sparkfun sitting in a tree,
h-a-r-m-o-n-i-z-i-n-g!
First comes discussions,
then comes agreements,
then comes the new products
in the merchant storefront!
Well, I have asked about this before, and I would like to mention it again.· A wireless programming system put out by Parallax, and not another company/vendor for Parallax.··A transceiver module that would mount on the PCB next to the stamp and connected to the programming port with a small antenna, and the other that simply plugs into the back of the computer, either the serial port or the USB port.· I seem to get tired of plugging·in the programming cable, changing a value in the program, then downloading, then unpluging so the robot can move around, only to find out that that value is to large or to small....
I know there are a couple of these devices out there, but they are more difficult to use then necessary and really didn't go over very big.·
Wouldn't it be nice to remotely...long range...maybe 100 feet...reprogram your robot without going out to get it, return it, plug it in...bla...bla...bla..you get the picture.
One could even control ones device from the keyboard...
How about a basic stamp with the same pin out and close to the same size as a bs1 but can run bs2 code. Something for those projects that need more speed than I/O.
-dan
Dear sirs.
As for me, it was relied on the development of the AC200 inverter motor in just these days.
There is the aim that I read the phase information such as IM motors sealed up, and it controls a voltage electric current and leads an efficiency power factor profitably, and the energy problem solves.
IR, Microchip have them.
However, I think that I can develop as a new system if I can incorporate a further idea as new technology.
Can you develop it in a period of how long?
I would have to second (or maybe third or fourth) the idea of wireless programming of the prop. My robot is going to be bluetooth controlled for the most part, and it would be very convenient to be able to update the software on the chip at the same time!! my 2c.
There used to be a 3rd party Bluetooth device that would let you wirelessly program a Stamp by downloading to on-chip memory via Bluetooth, then programming the Stamp once the Bluetooth download was complete. It's no longer available, I believe due to lack of adequate interest. It's a small market for such devices. I don't think you're going to get Parallax to develop a new one. Whether you'd be supporting the Stamps or the Propeller, you'd need some hardware on the PC end that would behave like a Stamp or Propeller to the PC (sort of like the Stache from Emesystems does) for the download, then turns around and transmits the entire downloaded program using xBee or Bluetooth and a protocol like XModem or YModem or Kermit to a different unit that then does the actual programming of the Stamp or Propeller.
It's possible to download code to a Stamp or Propeller if you have extra memory by using a control program in slot 0 of a Stamp or the 1st 32K of EEPROM of a Propeller. The Stamp program downloads to another slot while the Propeller downloads to another 32K "page" of EEPROM, then transfers control to the new program. The YBOX2 (using a Propeller) does this sort of thing via the internet. The only shortcoming is that you can't do the programming directly from the Stamp Editor or the Propeller Tool and, if the Stamp or Propeller is hung up, you can't force it to download a new program. You'd need an external processor of some type to do that.
By using a high level interpreter, it's possible to program a Propeller wirelessly. BoeBotBasic does this. You can enter Basic programs via xBee, run them, supply data to them, and watch debugging data. You can store programs and data locally on an SD card and run Basic programs and Spin programs from the SD card by command over xBee. The only thing you can't do is force a reset although you can interrupt a running BoeBotBasic program by typing an escape character.
For board prototyping, I'd like to see a good ZIF socket type device that is pad compatible with the LQFP-44 and has logic analyzer friendly pins available.
A breakout and ZIF socket all in one.
Jim Miller-
PS: For all the RF requests out there, I'll be putting up the results from my range tests of the Prop and Linx 433-LT pretty soon. I'll also have the code all rung out and running at 10Kbit.
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How about a product development system that allows you to rapidly and ruggedly enclose an entire project? See, for example, my posting in The Sandbox....
Everything the BS2 is, but with more memory and a free BASIC compiler (no more interpretation!). Increase the memory if necessary. I bought a 8gb pen drive for £9.77 (about 15 bucks?) from Amazon.co.uk the other day. Memory is dirt cheap now.
The FLASH memory in that pen-drive is way different from the EEPROM used to store a program in a BS2.
Redesigning the BS2 for more memory is... difficult...
Otherwise it would probably have been done a long time ago.
(Instead of releasing the paged models)
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I second Whit's suggestion for a Prop Bot publication. I've thoroughly enjoyed many of the BS2 publications including Smart Sensors, Process Control and IR Remote. These are INVALUABLE training and reference resources. If the same program were developed for the Propeller I would be the first in line!
I've been thinking that a small pager like RF system that alarms when it's number is sent out. My application is finding bins in a wharehouse. I'd like to put in a job number and have that beeper beep so I could find it.
delunn: You could also use the Dallas DS2413 addressable dual switch and run a 3 wire cable (like telephone wire) through the warehouse carrying 5V power, ground, and a 1-wire signal. Wherever you needed a signal, you'd plug in a little box with an LED and a beeper. Each one has a unique address and you'd have a Stamp or PC or whatever with the job numbers and assigned device numbers. Iit could do the lookup for you and signal the beeper.
Vaati said...
Although I didn't look through the entire 100+ RE's, I think it would be AWESOME to have a fully-programmable touch screen available.
I have an old BS2 software disk with an OLD catalog on it and I looked at it recently. About 6 years ago Parallax did make a touchscreen module for $399. I don't know why they got rid of it. (I also noticed that everything then was about twice as expensive as it is now.... )
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Post Edited (microcontroled1204) : 3/16/2009 4:55:21 PM GMT
Resell an appropriate subset of Northern Hydraulics--or anyone else's--hydraulic components for those of us that would line to enter that world but do not want the (most-excellent) Quadrover.
I know the components would be expensive. Parallax would have to charge enough to cover their included expertise in component selection, plus profit.
I would love to see Stamps in Class updated to Propeller, and a communications book written to cover lowcost TCP/IP, USB, communication with lab experiements like the rest of the wonderful stamps in education series.
Oh... and a solution to the SX line. (Will it be here next year? after the Unicom wafer iisues that caused the forced increase in price last year). SX/B 2.0 is FANTASTIC. Please keep this inexpensive product offering.
Okay, I compiled another list of all suggestions prior to this post. I would like to point out that in the time this thread has been around, Parallax has completed several customer requests. Thank you Parallax for listening! I've marked solutions with parenethesis and a link, a few of which are from forum members and may not be available for sale from Parallax directly.
Wireless Communication
I GSM Module
I IR Transmitter, 38 kHz.
II 2.4 GHz Wireless
V Transceivers
I Nordic nRF2401
I Wireless serial port
I Digital Wireless audio
I Boxes for wireless modules
I Wireless modules with self-forming network
I SMS text message module
I addressable Pager system
Robotics
I Prop based Penguin
I MiniSumoBot Propeller board
I Treads for 12V motor kit
III Propeller Based BOE-BOT
I Medium motor controller
I robotic arm
I Prop based Hexapod
I MOSFET PWM driver
I Frontloader attachment
I Battery and Wall socket power backup
I Walking robots
I CPU controller battery charger
I Quad rover frame
I HB-50
Sensors
IV IMU with filters (Currently in design by PhilldaPill here.)
IV Laser Range Finder ( Currently in design by JoeGrand for Parallax, thread here.)
I Thermopile array
I different modules of Ping with differing beam shapes
I Water proof Ping
I IR range detector
II Battery level monitor
II Single board Hall effect current sensor
I GPS in Plastic case
II Barometric Pressure
I Gas Sensors (CO Sensor made here.)
I Resonant coils
III Gyroscope (See IMU above)
III Altitude Sensor
I RFID with external antenna
I High temperature infrared thermometer
I Airspeed sensor
I Sound threshold sensor
I Linear array sensor
I Fingerprint scanner
Parallax Oriented ICs and Setups
I BS2 Coprocessors
I 17 segment LED alphanumeric driver chip
II intermediate IC starter packs
I DMX Light Control
I OBD2 Interface
I I/O expansion Pack
I Keypad with encoder IC
I A/D Converter pack
I Eval boards for specific experimentation categories
I LED Experimenter board
I RGB drivers
I Joystick interface
I DMX decoder module
I USB peripheral device
I Filters education kit
II LED Drivers
I Composite Video driver board
I SMD to DIP converter board
I Inexpensive OLED (Try Timothy's module here.)
I Cut down (smaller) SX or Prop
I Double stamp BOE
I x86 SoC BOE size board
III X-10 devices (or home automation)
I more RFID
I Stamp compatible color screen
I BS2 with BS1 pinout
I Faster BS for compiled BASIC
Other Propeller
VI Wireless propPlug
I Propeller Motherboard and daughterboards
I Stamp works manual for PPDB
II Dual propeller protoboard (Cluso's Tri-Blade prop comes pretty close here.)
II Propeller Camera (Supposedly this will be a product developed by PhiPi here.)
V Printed Propeller Educational material (Completed here.)
I PBASIC compiler for Propeller
II 64K EEPROM for boards
I Arduino shield for Propeller
I PropStick without USB interface
I Hydra EtherX card for breadboard
I Hydra slot for breadboard
II PE Lab DIP propeller pinout sticker
I Video mixer for text overlay
I Microphone
I ZIF socket
Miscellaneous
III Solar devices
I Rechargeable batteries
II Compact pan and tilt systems
I Pluggable BOE power supply
II Touch screen
I Soldering based products
II Protoboard Cases
II Educational products
III Printer Board (serial inkjet) (Ruled NOT ECONOMICAL)
I Wire Wrap kit
I Internet Radio
I Project of the Week kits (SOLVED! Link on main Parallax Page)
I Document explaining SX superiority over PICs
I Simple Beginning Electronics ‘Box’
I Plastic sheets
I robot bases
II “Prop inside” sticker (or BS2, SX, etc.)
II Parallax mug
I Wireless power transmitter
I Fluid Valve system
II 50 in 1 project kits
I Adapters for popular uC’s (VEX, Lego, etc.)
I xy table
I Smaller bias magnet for hall effect sensor
I SMD toolkit
I Rapid high strength enclosure system
I Hydraulics system
Comments
Second the home automation. Much of what many hobbyist do is to make our home lives easier (Chris, your car sensor in your garage is an example!).
How about a bias magnet for the hall effect that is smaller? (I've mistakenly blown up both of my sensors...)
I'd personally like to see more RFID/inductor stuff.
What is your relationship with the likes of Sparkfun? Maybe you could work out a deal where both stores were on the same place, so we could get one stop shopping with combined shipping? I doen't really surprise me (cause it would pigeonhole them) that you don't work more closely with them. But, if there was a way where the two of you could start up one "Master" hobbiest website where all the aggregated players can be. Like the one-stop-shop idea. You seem to have the same ideologies towards open source and competition (aka, build a better product and the customers will decide). I suppose my point is that there is enough room in this field (worldwide) that you can all play together, and with a one-stop-shop super hobby site would be cool. Not sure if that came out as clear as it is in my noggin...
It's tough to come up with stuff keeping in mind what your market is. It'd be interesting to hear about what you're thinking yourselves. Areas where you'd like to expand? Market's you like to enter?
-Parsko
sharing the risk of carrying new products for a time-limited period would seem to make sense for both. After that you could agree to disagree on a product by product classification schema... with proportional fees that decline over time[noparse]:)[/noparse]
I have ordered from Sparkfun, but only when I have to... mostly because I don't like the idea of our credit card info traveling anywhere it really doesn't have to.
I don't care where the shipment comes from... but the fewer places I have to go to place an order, the better I like it.
The folks at Sparkfun are wonderful... I called with a really stupid question and my call went straight to the top... everyone was extremely nice ... and very attentive.
So the Sparkfun folks appear to have the same business ethics and attention to detail[noparse]:)[/noparse]
Board level integration is a problem that every hacker seems to get close to eventually ... and from what I see... by combining your board level production experience with Sparkfun's you might be able to justify a shared division of labor and come up with a needed service that will really boosts the market penetration of your products.
Rich
h-a-r-m-o-n-i-z-i-n-g!
First comes discussions,
then comes agreements,
then comes the new products
in the merchant storefront!
[noparse]:)[/noparse]
Been on Vacation...But don't know if this has been suggested or this is closed out and won't be read but "Finger Print" scanner....
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I know there are a couple of these devices out there, but they are more difficult to use then necessary and really didn't go over very big.·
Wouldn't it be nice to remotely...long range...maybe 100 feet...reprogram your robot without going out to get it, return it, plug it in...bla...bla...bla..you get the picture.
One could even control ones device from the keyboard...
Thanks...DenO
-dan
As for me, it was relied on the development of the AC200 inverter motor in just these days.
There is the aim that I read the phase information such as IM motors sealed up, and it controls a voltage electric current and leads an efficiency power factor profitably, and the energy problem solves.
IR, Microchip have them.
However, I think that I can develop as a new system if I can incorporate a further idea as new technology.
Can you develop it in a period of how long?
Post Edited (nonnno) : 2/26/2009 12:26:48 PM GMT
Russ
It's possible to download code to a Stamp or Propeller if you have extra memory by using a control program in slot 0 of a Stamp or the 1st 32K of EEPROM of a Propeller. The Stamp program downloads to another slot while the Propeller downloads to another 32K "page" of EEPROM, then transfers control to the new program. The YBOX2 (using a Propeller) does this sort of thing via the internet. The only shortcoming is that you can't do the programming directly from the Stamp Editor or the Propeller Tool and, if the Stamp or Propeller is hung up, you can't force it to download a new program. You'd need an external processor of some type to do that.
By using a high level interpreter, it's possible to program a Propeller wirelessly. BoeBotBasic does this. You can enter Basic programs via xBee, run them, supply data to them, and watch debugging data. You can store programs and data locally on an SD card and run Basic programs and Spin programs from the SD card by command over xBee. The only thing you can't do is force a reset although you can interrupt a running BoeBotBasic program by typing an escape character.
A breakout and ZIF socket all in one.
Jim Miller-
PS: For all the RF requests out there, I'll be putting up the results from my range tests of the Prop and Linx 433-LT pretty soon. I'll also have the code all rung out and running at 10Kbit.
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The FLASH memory in that pen-drive is way different from the EEPROM used to store a program in a BS2.
Redesigning the BS2 for more memory is... difficult...
Otherwise it would probably have been done a long time ago.
(Instead of releasing the paged models)
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Post Edited (microcontroled1204) : 3/16/2009 4:55:21 PM GMT
I know the components would be expensive. Parallax would have to charge enough to cover their included expertise in component selection, plus profit.
--Bill
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Oh... and a solution to the SX line. (Will it be here next year? after the Unicom wafer iisues that caused the forced increase in price last year). SX/B 2.0 is FANTASTIC. Please keep this inexpensive product offering.
Wireless Communication
I GSM Module
I IR Transmitter, 38 kHz.
II 2.4 GHz Wireless
V Transceivers
I Nordic nRF2401
I Wireless serial port
I Digital Wireless audio
I Boxes for wireless modules
I Wireless modules with self-forming network
I SMS text message module
I addressable Pager system
Robotics
I Prop based Penguin
I MiniSumoBot Propeller board
I Treads for 12V motor kit
III Propeller Based BOE-BOT
I Medium motor controller
I robotic arm
I Prop based Hexapod
I MOSFET PWM driver
I Frontloader attachment
I Battery and Wall socket power backup
I Walking robots
I CPU controller battery charger
I Quad rover frame
I HB-50
Sensors
IV IMU with filters (Currently in design by PhilldaPill here.)
IV Laser Range Finder ( Currently in design by JoeGrand for Parallax, thread here.)
I Thermopile array
I different modules of Ping with differing beam shapes
I Water proof Ping
I IR range detector
II Battery level monitor
II Single board Hall effect current sensor
I GPS in Plastic case
II Barometric Pressure
I Gas Sensors (CO Sensor made here.)
I Resonant coils
III Gyroscope (See IMU above)
III Altitude Sensor
I RFID with external antenna
I High temperature infrared thermometer
I Airspeed sensor
I Sound threshold sensor
I Linear array sensor
I Fingerprint scanner
Parallax Oriented ICs and Setups
I BS2 Coprocessors
I 17 segment LED alphanumeric driver chip
II intermediate IC starter packs
I DMX Light Control
I OBD2 Interface
I I/O expansion Pack
I Keypad with encoder IC
I A/D Converter pack
I Eval boards for specific experimentation categories
I LED Experimenter board
I RGB drivers
I Joystick interface
I DMX decoder module
I USB peripheral device
I Filters education kit
II LED Drivers
I Composite Video driver board
I SMD to DIP converter board
I Inexpensive OLED (Try Timothy's module here.)
I Cut down (smaller) SX or Prop
I Double stamp BOE
I x86 SoC BOE size board
III X-10 devices (or home automation)
I more RFID
I Stamp compatible color screen
I BS2 with BS1 pinout
I Faster BS for compiled BASIC
Other Propeller
VI Wireless propPlug
I Propeller Motherboard and daughterboards
I Stamp works manual for PPDB
II Dual propeller protoboard (Cluso's Tri-Blade prop comes pretty close here.)
II Propeller Camera (Supposedly this will be a product developed by PhiPi here.)
V Printed Propeller Educational material (Completed here.)
I PBASIC compiler for Propeller
II 64K EEPROM for boards
I Arduino shield for Propeller
I PropStick without USB interface
I Hydra EtherX card for breadboard
I Hydra slot for breadboard
II PE Lab DIP propeller pinout sticker
I Video mixer for text overlay
I Microphone
I ZIF socket
Miscellaneous
III Solar devices
I Rechargeable batteries
II Compact pan and tilt systems
I Pluggable BOE power supply
II Touch screen
I Soldering based products
II Protoboard Cases
II Educational products
III Printer Board (serial inkjet) (Ruled NOT ECONOMICAL)
I Wire Wrap kit
I Internet Radio
I Project of the Week kits (SOLVED! Link on main Parallax Page)
I Document explaining SX superiority over PICs
I Simple Beginning Electronics ‘Box’
I Plastic sheets
I robot bases
II “Prop inside” sticker (or BS2, SX, etc.)
II Parallax mug
I Wireless power transmitter
I Fluid Valve system
II 50 in 1 project kits
I Adapters for popular uC’s (VEX, Lego, etc.)
I xy table
I Smaller bias magnet for hall effect sensor
I SMD toolkit
I Rapid high strength enclosure system
I Hydraulics system
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