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Another LCD/TV option for use with the Propeller TV Driver

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-02-25 14:20
    ok, cool cheers and nn [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    will order it now.
    and yeah, isn't it funny how long some vids take to recode [noparse]:D[/noparse]

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-02-25 14:47
    Ordered [noparse]:D[/noparse] WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!! and shipt it? lol ( only joking :P )

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-25 20:48
    Sweit!

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  • rjo_rjo_ Posts: 1,825
    edited 2009-02-25 22:17
    I agree with everybody else... 3.5+. If you can break the $50 mark, superb.

    Whatever you decide, I want two.

    Rich
  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-02-26 00:00
    James Michael Huselton said...
    Sweit!

    Hey - that is my line!

    Thank you for the order guys, I will keep you updated on order status through PayPal. I will also post here to let you know that the cable comes in.

    I am eager to see the 3.5" display too - when it comes. I think it is a new design that is going through prototyping so we will see when I get it. I hope in the next couple weeks, so I will post here with more info when I know more.

    rjo_ please PM me if you can.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-02-26 12:00
    Great news - I got the cables today! I update the Brilldea site with a picture. For those that have placed orders, we should be able to start shipping tomorrow (Friday).

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  • mikestefoymikestefoy Posts: 84
    edited 2009-02-26 12:09
    I would like a touchscreen version, 3.5"
  • william chanwilliam chan Posts: 1,326
    edited 2009-02-26 12:19
    Can the 3.0" display be used to make a Propeller based Digital Photo Frame? smile.gif

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  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2009-02-26 12:42
    Timothy,
    · Do you think the 3.0" screen is capable of 40 columns of text ? How about 32 columns ? Not colored, just white on black (or black on white).

    · Just for future development, I'd be interested in a touchscreen display too.

    Bean.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-02-26 12:43
    OK - I changed the standard Graphics_Demo to PAL. The screen displays this images as well, but it is smaller than the NTSC, I wonder why that is? Hmmm....maybe some manipulation of the TV driver needs to be done to some how fake out the smarts on the driver board the selects between the two modes.

    William - sure, you can do a lot with this little display. The trick is getting the image into Propeller RAM so that the TV Cog can continuously use it in the video generation. I bet Baggers has some idea how to do that.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-02-26 12:45
    Bean - I am not sure about the text and columns. Is there an example code you can point me to? If so, I will go ahead and run it and post a picture or video.

    I don't know about touch screen versions, at least I haven't seen them in my travels of the electronics fairs. One could add a four-wire resistive overlay on it though to add the touch screen capability.l

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-02-26 14:11
    Timothy, the PAL version will be smaller, because as well as changing MODE to 1, and not 0, you also have to change HX to 10 and not 8 [noparse]:D[/noparse]

    William Chan, as it is a composite input and not RGB input, you will have to use either the propeller palette, OR you could use an AD724/5 and do something like I did with the first PROPGFX the RGB SCART version, by making new video driver, to output the timings, and colour data, no need for colour burst, as the AD72x takes care of that for you [noparse]:D[/noparse], but then it's how to get image data, and fit it in the prop's hub-ram as this display won't have RAM or if it does you don't get access to it, because it's fed the input from a composite source, where as Rayman's LCD has ram, so you could use that to read a jpg from SD and decode it to LCD.

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-26 18:58
    Tim,

    Can I place an order on your company site now? I want to check with you personally - things change (flux!).

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-02-26 23:20
    Yes, the web site is open to receive orders for the 3.0" LCD and driver board: www.brilldea.com/product_30LCDanddriver.html

    Thank you Baggers for the explanation. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if someone could use the LCD display apart from the display board, I have the data sheet on the web site for those who are interested in learning more about the LCD. I am also working with Rayman (I owe him a PM) on sourcing some LCD for his projects mentioned in another thread.

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-27 06:12
    Tim,

    I just ordered one. Many more to come if I get the Xbee hospital tracking system Federally approved.

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-02-27 08:59
    No Probs Timothy [noparse]:D[/noparse] glad to help out.
    I've also grabbed the data-sheet, and might have a look at attacking it direct [noparse]:D[/noparse]

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-02-27 14:48
    I am interested in hearing about any and all mods and cool applications done with the product.

    Certainly for higher volume things let me know and we can work out various details regarding sourcing and pricing. I will try and keep this item in stock, but there may be droughts because my quantity purchases are small and need to coincide usually with larger orders. In time I hope to rectify this problem, but I don't want to have too much stock while trying to accomplish other goals.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-03-06 00:04
    It has been a week since we started shipping the 3.0" displays, so in the next few days those that ordered should be getting them. I am eager to hear your feedback. We just stocked a bunch more of those displays because I think they are a great accessory to the Propeller and many Propeller Projects. I can't wait to hear how everyone uses them and if there are any tips, tricks or hacks for it.

    Over the weekend I visited the electronics market in Shenzhen again. I found a new market this time, it was the security and protection market. Wall to wall and several floors of cables, door alarms, door bells, IR sensors, and video camera of all sorts of types....including board cameras. I bought an inexpensive board camera that had a composite output on it. I hooked it up to the 3.0" composite display right when i got home and it worked. It was very cool to have a small LCD hooked up to a small camera - it was compact and nice!

    Unfortunately I am traveling now and unable to post pictures, but I will. I am thinking about carrying some of the camera's too. There were all types of camera modules, I need to research and see what is good and what isn't. One idea I had was to make a miniature video microscope, maybe for checking or doing surface mount soldering. With the right lens on the camera and a small stand, it might be a nice DIY jig. Another idea is to source a small video transmitter/receiver and then attach the 3.0" display to a remote robot controller with the small board camera on the robot. Or similarly, for those that like to do kite aerial photography they could use it to aim their shots.

    Many ideas....too little time.

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-03-06 08:52
    Hi Timothy, sounds like you have a great time over there [noparse]:D[/noparse]
    I'm also looking forward to receiving the display, shouldn't be long now!

    Cheers,
    Baggers.

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,833
    edited 2009-03-06 11:42
    Looks great! Would you sell the display by itself? Do you think the LCD connector can be bought somewhere?
  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-03-06 11:43
    I do have fun over here!!! The electronics market provides a wealth of ideas and inspiration and parts and pieces to tinker with.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-03-06 11:46
    Sorry Rayman, I missed your question. Umm - I need to review selling the display by itself. Right now I buy the Display and Driver board together. I can investigate purchasing just displays and pricing so that I could sell those apart from the driver board. I bet an FFC connector can be sourced by itself - in fact sometimes the LCD sheet specify these, I will have to look if it recommends a certain part number.

    Do you think the display alone works for the applications you mentioned in other threads?

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,833
    edited 2009-03-06 18:23
    I just took a brief look at the datasheet, but it looks like it could be driven directly from the Propeller. I suppose the only real benefit would be the ability to show high color photos/movies etc...
  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-03-06 18:34
    showing high colour photo's / movies, surely that's only if it has a ram buffer for the display, and doesn't need to be handled by the controlling prop.
    although tbh I'd like to have a go at driving it directly too [noparse]:D[/noparse]

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,833
    edited 2009-03-06 21:07
    Oops, you're right Baggers... I didn't look closely enough... The LCD doesn't have GRAM, so you need the controller board...

    Never mind!
  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-03-09 12:43
    Got my LCD & board through today [noparse]:)[/noparse] Thanks Timothy [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    Nicely packaged, and most importantly, works with Hybrid & PropGFX [noparse]:)[/noparse] and it's amazingly clear, great find Timothy [noparse]:)[/noparse] thanks again!

    Baggers.

    anyone thinking of getting one of these, GET ONE, they're excellent.

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  • Timothy D. SwieterTimothy D. Swieter Posts: 1,613
    edited 2009-03-09 12:46
    Thanks Baggers! Got some pictures or video of it running the PropGFX routines? So, how long before you make the hand held Hybrid with this display?

    I love this display too - I just need more time to create some apps with it. BTW - I got a couple more boxes of the display in, so I have plenty of stock for anyone else wanting one or two. I hope to keep the display in stock for a while.

    No word yet on that 3.5" display, I am getting vibs that the sample may be weeks or months away. Perhaps they sold me something they didn't have ready yet.

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  • BaggersBaggers Posts: 3,019
    edited 2009-03-09 14:15
    No Probs Timothy, and yes, I'll post some pics and video, tonight when I've finished work [noparse]:D[/noparse]

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  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2009-03-09 23:42
    I was asking about the text capabilities of Timothy's 3.0" LCD.
    Here is a photo of it displaying 40x13 text characters from femtobasic.

    I have two questions Timothy...

    1) What is the 6 pin connector for ?

    2) Is there any way to adjust the contrast ?

    Nice display. It's actually a little larger than I thought it would be.

    Bean.

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  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2009-03-09 23:57
    Just for giggles, can someone give me a rough appraisal of the image quality in sunlight with something like the text Bean has on the display?


    I'm looking for a screen I can use in a Marine environment and so it has to be bright enough to cut through a bit of reflected glare.

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