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Dumbest thing you've done? (in electronics)

UghaUgha Posts: 543
edited 2008-10-20 19:28 in General Discussion
The other day I was testing a board I made that had IR transmitters, IR receivers
and an LED bank (controlled by a transistor) all on it.

The board was running fine... except every time I pulsed the IR LEDs the normal LEDs
would fade on. I was about ready to scrap the whole thing and start with a fresh perf
board.

It took me over an hour to realize that every time I tested the thing, I had bridged
the IR signal to the transistor's base with my finger!

Just curious... what is·the dumbest mistake you've ever made with electronics?
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  • FireHopperFireHopper Posts: 180
    edited 2008-10-05 13:04
    long time ago I had wired up a neon bulb osc, using a old scrap pcb I had lyin around from something else, plugged it in and created one heck of a pop, turns out I had forgotten to cut a trace, and had shorted the ac input directly with the trace, Mmmm smell of copper vapor. scared me silly [noparse]:)[/noparse]
  • Brian218Brian218 Posts: 92
    edited 2008-10-05 13:26
    I'm currently working on a propeller project that uses a prop proto board (3.3 and 5.0 volts) and a circuit that uses 12v...most propeller users can see where this is headed...

    To make a long story short, the circuit stopped working after setting several propeller inputs to 12v. Yes, the proto board was fried

    The really stupid part is after a detailed code/circuit review, I couldn't find anything wrong, and then fried another proto board! freaked.gifnono.gif

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,403
    edited 2008-10-05 15:10
    I got one and many more! See the "Safety First" section of my project for the full story:

    http://forums.parallax.com/forums/pr.aspx?f=21&m=151769

    Insisting that it would be much easier to diagnose and debug a small running engine on my desk rather than outside, I blew up a voltage/current regulator and it erupted in flames.

    I'm in the middle of another stupid problem I can't resolve, so I'll be taking the whole circuit to Chris Savage tomorrow morning. Eight hours of work and I still can't figure out why the project "sorta" works.

    Ken Gracey
    Parallax, Inc.
  • hippyhippy Posts: 1,981
    edited 2008-10-05 19:33
    Adjusting a 'stack' wire-wound rheostat in an old radio, thumb on top, finger on wiper only to find it wired across the mains. Didn't hurt at first.
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2008-10-05 19:56
    Something Dumb...

    Years ago I was over at a friends house and I caught the HOT end of a micro-wave oven transformer. Don't ask what we were doing with that potentially fatal "experiment" ... The next thing I knew was that my friend and I were picking ourselves up off the floor after I accidentally touched the wrong leads. As best as we can both figure, is that I backhanded him so hard (electrical involuntary muscle reaction) that it knocked BOTH of us off and out of our chairs.

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    Post Edited (Beau Schwabe (Parallax)) : 10/6/2008 2:57:15 AM GMT
  • P!-RoP!-Ro Posts: 1,189
    edited 2008-10-05 20:12
    Jeez, Ken. You're making me nervous about my own project, and it uses an engine 2x more powerful than yours!·http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=756088

    Anyway, I'm sure I'll have many of those "moments" with this project, but the last actual one I can remember was probably when I burned out my BS2 using a transistor. Infact, I did it twise! The first time I burned out pin zero, and the second...well, lets just say no more BS2. It can still do one thing though. Although I don't remember why, if you turn it on and connect a pizo speeker to pin 15, you can very silently play a song I programmed it to do before I ran the transistor. Kinda strange, never figured out why. I tried changing the song once, but the BS2 is now incapable of being reprogrammed.

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2008-10-05 20:29
    I was doing some light soldering at my desk, put the iron down to hold a part. I decided I needed the data sheet and reached over for the mouse. Burn! I hit the soldering iron. My pinkie wasn't the same for weeks.
  • TimmooreTimmoore Posts: 1,031
    edited 2008-10-05 20:51
    Trying catching a soldering iron after doing the same thing and having it fall off the desk. Always used a soldering stand after that!
  • mirrormirror Posts: 322
    edited 2008-10-05 21:49
    As a young kid I had some old flash bulbs - the one-shot types. I held onto the flash bulb while connecting some wires to a battery. The bright flash of light was expected! The instant blistering of my fingers was NOT.

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  • Brian218Brian218 Posts: 92
    edited 2008-10-05 22:12
    #2, I just realized this this morning...

    I recently ordered the discounted Propeller PDB, but forgot to order a 40 pin DIP propeller chip.

    So now, I'll either need to cannibalize a previous project, or place another order.

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  • Beanie2kBeanie2k Posts: 83
    edited 2008-10-05 22:23
    mirror said...
    As a young kid I had some old flash bulbs - the one-shot types. I held onto the flash bulb while connecting some wires to a battery. The bright flash of light was expected! The instant blistering of my fingers was NOT.

    Thank you. I no longer feel so stupid for having done exactly the same thing. lol.gif I was 7 years old when I did it. How old were you?
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2008-10-05 22:39
    One dumb mistake I continue to repeat time and time again is forgetting to slide the backshell of a connector onto the cable before soldering the wires to the pins. I hate it when that happens!

    -Phil
  • MSDTechMSDTech Posts: 342
    edited 2008-10-05 22:49
    Try connecting a electrolytic capacitor in with the wrong polarity. My little parts cabinet is missing all the little plastic tabs for opening the drawers on one column. Just glad the capacitor was pointing at the cabinet and not my head.
  • mirrormirror Posts: 322
    edited 2008-10-05 23:16
    Beanie2k said...
    mirror said...
    As a young kid I had some old flash bulbs - the one-shot types. I held onto the flash bulb while connecting some wires to a battery. The bright flash of light was expected! The instant blistering of my fingers was NOT.

    Thank you. I no longer feel so stupid for having done exactly the same thing. lol.gif I was 7 years old when I did it. How old were you?
    I think I was about 10 at the time.

    Although I must also agree with Phil that I also hate it when I forget the backshell!
  • sam_sam_samsam_sam_sam Posts: 2,286
    edited 2008-10-06 00:17
    Here is add to the list of dumb thing to do

    When I·was working on this last project all of this happen to this one project

    Basic Stamp Current Controller..For My Milling Machine ..That I keep Blowing Fuses on the controller
    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=746467

    There is allot more to the story than what I posted

    Lets start by saying· like it says in this post that i had bought a lot 50 of the 2N2222A and want to use them in this project at Frost· I only had the transistor hook to the Basic Stamp with a 220 ohm resister to the pin

    and it seem to work but some time when the relay would come on the debug would to gobble DE gook so I try ed a 560 ohm resister and still did the same thing so i when to a 1K ohm resister it still was doing it so I went to

    2 K ohm resister and then the relay would not pull in then used a Optic Sensor which seem to work

    Burn In Test using a Relay and a Basic Stamp and using Hyper Terminal
    Here is the link to it
    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=748879


    Lets start by saying that the first board reworked so many time·that some traces are·jump that I had to ·start·the project over

    Well this is what happen to the second board

    Well you think that I had all the problem work out and it should have been easy it was at first until·I hook up the current transformer to the wrong input and could not understand why it was not working·right once i got that part working then the next thing happen was i was using a 450 milliamp transformer that for some reason when into thermo over load

    Here Is the load on the transformer···· ·80 milliamp for LCD Back light 75 milliamp for the relay 10 milliamp for the Basic Stamp 40 milliamp for two·green LEDs light that add·up to 220 milliamp

    I have not finished this project yet because·I thought I had used the same size board i did not I used a bigger board so now·I have to cut out a another case for this project

    I thinking that all of the problem that I am having with this and some of it has been dumb mistakes can it get any worse




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    Post Edited (sam_sam_sam) : 10/6/2008 1:04:44 AM GMT
  • NR1XNR1X Posts: 111
    edited 2008-10-06 01:33
    Phil Pilgram said... One dumb mistake I continue to repeat time and time again is forgetting to slide the backshell of a connector onto the cable before soldering the wires to the pins. I hate it when that happens!

    Start a poll !! bet WE'RE not alone... i do feel better knowing im not alone.. have done it countless times and i'm sure to do it again
  • tpw_mantpw_man Posts: 276
    edited 2008-10-06 02:19
    A really dumb thing that I did, is that when switching the soldering iron to the other hand to do something(I forget what), I grabbed the metal heated part instead of the handle, and suffered a blistered ring finger.

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  • MikerocontrollerMikerocontroller Posts: 310
    edited 2008-10-06 02:34
    · I· was sitting in·the cockpit of a·military aircraft with a multimeter on my lap.···I was checking a 115 volt 400Hz circuit.··I neglected to plug the probes into the meter.· My·shocked.gif got shocked!··
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  • GeekgirlGeekgirl Posts: 50
    edited 2008-10-06 04:07
    · I've continued to have my small share of "Ooopses" over the years, but the dumbest thing I ever did was dang near the Last dumb thing·I ever did, and that was 40 some years ago. I can tell you that the high voltage on a crt in a radar PPI unit shows no mercy. I reached alongside a unit with the side cover off and got a bit too close to a tie point. I drew a pair of 2" arcs to my forearm and it went downhill from there. (the scars are still plainly visible)· Fortunately, I was standing up and had one hand behind by back and somewhere amidst the stench of burning arm, the feeling of parallysis, and seeing my life pass before me, (it really does do that)·my brain fired enough synapses to drop me·to the floor pulling my arm far enough away.

    · Luckily, my folks never found out what really happened (they'd have taken away all my military surplus electronics for sure) and While I still have a penchant for tesla coils and high voltage experimenting, I've never forgotten that lesson.


    ·· Darlene
  • Brian218Brian218 Posts: 92
    edited 2008-10-06 06:45
    Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) said...
    One dumb mistake I continue to repeat time and time again is forgetting to slide the backshell of a connector onto the cable before soldering the wires to the pins. I hate it when that happens!

    -Phil

    I've done that, or similar, quite a few times,

    Here's a pict of something similar.
    The idea was to run the ribbon cable through the slot on the top of the project box BEFORE soldering...
    FYI...the picture is an "ESD damage simulator" I use this at work when I teach ESD (currently one of my job titles is 'ESD Coordinator")

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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2008-10-06 14:25
    I found an old military radio and receiver as a kid and re-wired the receiver to work
    on my telephone line. For about a day I was happily talking to my friends on this
    huge wireless radio. Unbeknown to me at the time, the hum I was talking over was
    60 cycle AC feeding back into the phone system. I woke up the next morning to
    my phone being disconnected. The repair guys said that they had blown repeated
    circuit boards at one of their junction points until they found where the voltage was
    coming from. The company refused to reconnect the line until my father promised
    them I would never connect unauthorized equipment again. Gotta love that military
    surplus stuff. [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    OBC

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  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2008-10-06 15:08
    Hmm, One thing that comes to mind is NEVER to make assumptions about using new parts. Usually a strip or band on a component identifies the (negative) end. Not so on the surface mount tantalum caps. Someone decided it would be much smarter to ditch that convention and use the strip to signify the (positve) end. Found that out the hard way the first time I tried using one of those parts. Wondered why the board wouldn't power up. Checked the board and the surface mount cap was HOT. Did some more research and found the markings were different. Put on a new cap in the right orientation and all was well. The original tantalum cap which got hot was pitched since it was suspect after being installed backwards. It is critical that polarized electrolytic and tantalum caps are installed with the proper polarity or they will explode or catch fire. I'll bet that the banded end on the caps has also happened to a few others on the forum.

    Robert
  • heaterheater Posts: 3,370
    edited 2008-10-06 16:13
    This is not so shocking but the dumbest thing I ever did in electronics was to quit my job at the old Marconi Radar company in search of a better salary back in 1983. I did not realize at the time what a brilliant and unique place it was there in their research labs. Surrounded by electronics gurus, CPU designers, software wizzes, mechanical engineers, radio engineers not to mention the mountains of electronic bits and bobs, tools, computers all around. Quite a lot of freedom to experiment with whatever new devices were coming at the beginning of the microprocessor revolution.

    Some what like what you see on that video of Chip in Parallax that came up recently but a thousand time bigger. I've rarely managed to get back into that kind of environment since.

    My respect for electricity started when I was about eight years old when I bravely grabbed hold of am electric cattle fence. I was convinced my friend behind me had just hit me in the elbow with a cricket bat.

    That's just as well as I spent a lot of time building tube gear as a teenager.

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  • Shawn LoweShawn Lowe Posts: 635
    edited 2008-10-06 17:21
    Putting my finger over the wrong place on a flash circuit from a disposable camera. To make it 1000 times worst, I had just gotten done explaining to a co worker how dangerous they can be if you don't take ....zzzzz. It was very hard to keep from cursing.

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-10-06 22:42
    Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) said...
    One dumb mistake I continue to repeat time and time again is forgetting to slide the backshell of a connector onto the cable before soldering the wires to the pins. I hate it when that happens!
    -Phil
    Okay, you found one...I have done this many times too.

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  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2008-10-06 23:05
    Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) said...
    One dumb mistake I continue to repeat time and time again is forgetting to slide the backshell of a connector onto the cable before soldering the wires to the pins. I hate it when that happens!
    -Phil
    On a related note:
    How many times have we had to re-solder a wire connection because·we forgot to slip·a piece of heat shrink tubing onto the wire that we are soldering?

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  • sam_sam_samsam_sam_sam Posts: 2,286
    edited 2008-10-07 00:08
    Beau

    How many times have we had to re-solder a wire connection because·we forgot to slip·a piece of heat shrink tubing onto the wire that we are soldering?

    Too many to count Now I do not feel so bad

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  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2008-10-07 05:30
    I was developing the new VOTRAX speech synthesis chip at the time and had various electronic circuits installed in my computer and robot. My home workshop was located upstairs. While busy developing hardware and software, I was called downstairs for supper. I left in a hurry. After about 20 minutes, we were startled to hear someone talking upstairs. Since we were all downstairs, our conclusion was it had to be an intruder! With hearts beating fast, we ran upstairs not knowing who we would confront! To our unbelievable surprise, it was the robot talking on his own. He appeared to be carrying on a conversation with the computer while facing it. Everyone was so impressed (or dumbfounded), and after that I went into Artificial Intelligence as a career and designed industrial robotics AI software and hardware.

    humanoido
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2008-10-07 12:10
    This was nothing to do with me, but was very silly.

    Where I once worked, before I joined the group, one of my colleagues needed to build an interface to one of the computers. Our daft manager wouldn't let him order the components, so he had to remove the wire-wrap sockets and other parts he needed from existing prototype boards, and use those to construct his interface. I think he found a new board to put them on. The company was British Aerospace, one of the biggest firms in the UK.

    Leon

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  • Lee MarshallLee Marshall Posts: 106
    edited 2008-10-08 01:46
    not so amazing, but i once managed to kill 9 BC108 transistors in succession from not having a resistor on the base.
    i was fully aware the resistor was required, but it was only when i got to #10 it actually dawned on me that it was absent.
    sometimes, i never learn...
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