Mac/Linux/Windows IDE - Ver 0.19.3 "Now with new improved PropBasic" release

BradC · 2010-05-10 23:34

Baggers said...
ah, that may be the solution?

Well, I get over 100 downloads a month of bst of which 30-40 are for the Mac and this has not come up before, so there must be something specific that is tickling it on your system.

Given bstc behaves, I'm currently at a loss. I'll keep looking though.

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Chim · 2010-05-11 07:21

Hello BardC,
I would like know where we are on cable with RTS reset signal under BST.

Thanks in advance.

BradC · 2010-05-11 14:17

Chim

Baggers · 2010-05-11 19:45

Cheers.

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BradC · 2010-05-12 11:21

Baggers said...
Cheers.

Nope. Stuffed if I can figure it out. The RAM in my Mac died recently and the replacement is on the slow boat from Hong Kong. I think I need that back up and running to chase this further. Please bear with me, I do intend to get this knocked on the head.

In the mean time, do you have an ftdi based device (demo board or something) you can try to see if it suffers the same problem?

I'm clutching at straws at the moment.

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Baggers · 2010-05-12 11:59

Ok, yeah I'll try the prop plug, this afternoon and get back to you on it.

Sorry to hear about your RAM dying in the Mac, and yes, the slow boat is always very slow, getting stuff from deal extreme always takes a few weeks, but worth the wait, as they do free world wide shipping [noparse]:)[/noparse]

Anyway, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this, and no worries about the wait, for now I just use a terminal to assemble and send.

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BradC · 2010-05-12 12:20

Baggers said...
Ok, yeah I'll try the prop plug, this afternoon and get back to you on it.

Sorry to hear about your RAM dying in the Mac, and yes, the slow boat is always very slow, getting stuff from deal extreme always takes a few weeks, but worth the wait, as they do free world wide shipping [noparse]:)[/noparse]

Anyway, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this, and no worries about the wait, for now I just use a terminal to assemble and send.

Glad you have a work around for now. Getting large quantities of PC100 ram is not easy these days. It went out of fashion about the time Noah's Ark sank. It was either a hundred bucks from the states or 18 from HK. I can wait [noparse];)[/noparse]. I still like to do my primary testing on my old G4. It keeps me keen on the profiling (I originally improved bstc's compile speed about 800% after getting sick of waiting 60 minutes for the regression to run on the G4) and it stops me having to constantly reboot (I run Ubuntu on my Mac-Mini to develop with, so using that for testing is a matter of change/compile/reboot/test/reboot - lather, rinse, repeat).

I'm just stumped. I figure if other Mac users were seeing downloads slower than the Prop Tool they'd have screamed.

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KPR · 2010-05-12 12:48

I have a pile of ram for G4's if anyone needs in the future.. I kept all of the 256Meg and 512 Meg sticks from a now defunct Lab..

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Peter Jakacki · 2010-05-13 11:40

Brad,

JAR (just another request) - I do production programming with BST and the serial terminal but I'm lazy (as you know) and I have to ALT TAB back to the IDE from the terminal to hit F11. It's such a chore

But I know it would be very easy though to make F11 pass through the terminal and program my production boards. What do you think? BTW, I like how BST knows to focus back to the terminal after an F11, that works well.

Have you thought about having a serial numbering function built-in as well?

Thanks mate, that's another beer I owe ya!

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BradC · 2010-05-13 12:45

Peter Jakacki said...
BTW, I like how BST knows to focus back to the terminal after an F11, that works well.

Thank Ray for that one.

Peter Jakacki said...

Have you thought about having a serial numbering function built-in as well?

No, but how hard can it be?

The F10/F11 thing in the terminal has been driving me nuts lately too. Look for a fix in the not to distant future. Got some other stuff in the works also, so I should have a new -pre out in the next week or so.

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Peter Jakacki · 2010-05-13 12:58

Thanks Brad, do you realize that your nick is actually two sorta concatenated 6502 assembler mnemonics?

bra pub ; branch always (to the pub)
adc beer ; add with carry (take some home too)

thought I'd share that one

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Mike Green · 2010-05-14 23:47

BradC,
I have BST 0.9.4pre12 running under MacOS 10.6.3 on a MacBook. When I press the command key to do a command-Q to quit, I get an error message "Unknown user keypress 610". If I dismiss the message window, I can press command, then Q and it works as expected. If I just keep pressing the command key, I get the error message on every other command keypress.
Mike

Bean · 2010-05-15 00:45

I have BST 0.19.4pre12 running under windows 7. When I do "File->Open" the "types of files" input line says "*.spin,*.pbas", but the scroll list has EVERY file in it.
Makes it kinda hard to find the one you want.

Bean

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BradC · 2010-05-15 02:14

Cheers Mike & Bean, I'll get into those bugs ASAP.

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Madethn · 2010-05-15 04:12

how many weeks did you wait baggers i am waiting for mine to arrive just now.

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Baggers · 2010-05-22 13:11

Madethn, sorry missed this post, it usually takes about a month from China, deffo is on the slow boat lol, ( which is just quick flight, then stuck in customs for a month usually )

BradC, sorry because the forum is moving so fast, it popped off the first 25 in the page, and I forgot to get back to you about the prop plug working fine, and full speed, it's just the USB Serial Converter, that goes SLOW, it tries to recognise it as a Network device also ( at mac boot up ), if that helps any?

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BradC · 2010-05-22 13:23

Baggers said...
BradC, sorry because the forum is moving so fast, it popped off the first 25 in the page, and I forgot to get back to you about the prop plug working fine, and full speed, it's just the USB Serial Converter, that goes SLOW, it tries to recognise it as a Network device also ( at mac boot up ), if that helps any?

Well, well, well (three holes in the ground). Yes that makes a world of difference.

So, my PC133 ram arrived for my G4, and its timing was not compatible, so I have some more on the way. (Serves me right for trying to cheap out)

As soon as I can get it fired up I'll hook up my PL2303 converter and see if I can figure it out. I still have to add the RTS option also..

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Baggers · 2010-05-22 16:05

ok cool, glad it's helped you figure out what it might be [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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kuroneko · 2010-05-28 13:03

ATM I'm using bstc v0.15.4-pre10 (as used by bst v0.19.4-pre12) with unused method removal (-Or). With the attached project structure I get an Object Position is negative! error. Looks harmless enough though [noparse]:)[/noparse]

main.spin
  &#9474;
  &#9500;&#9472;&#9472;setup.spin
  &#9474;
  &#9492;&#9472;&#9472;write.spin
       &#9474;
       &#9492;&#9472;&#9472;system.spin

Baggers · 2010-05-28 13:26

BradC, can I make some requests also? I really miss Control TAB to switch between files [noparse]:D[/noparse] ( on PC and MAC )

Oh, and on my Mac mini, not sure if it's something I need to fix, but F8-F11 etc don't work, they bring up the audio settings, anyone know how to fix that?

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BradC · 2010-05-28 14:17

Baggers said...
BradC, can I make some requests also? I really miss Control TAB to switch between files [noparse]:D[/noparse] ( on PC and MAC )

Never knew about that key sequence. I'll look into it.

Baggers said...
Oh, and on my Mac mini, not sure if it's something I need to fix, but F8-F11 etc don't work, they bring up the audio settings, anyone know how to fix that?

For that precise reason on Mac it's CMD-F7->F11.

Hopefully my Mac RAM arrives soon.

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BradC · 2010-05-28 14:18

kuroneko said...
ATM I'm using bstc v0.15.4-pre10 (as used by bst v0.19.4-pre12) with unused method removal (-Or). With the attached project structure I get an Object Position is negative! error. Looks harmless enough though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
main.spin
  &#9474;
  &#9500;&#9472;&#9472;setup.spin
  &#9474;
  &#9492;&#9472;&#9472;write.spin
       &#9474;
       &#9492;&#9472;&#9472;system.spin

Sorry to put you through that. I fixed that bug a while back but have not posted new binaries as I'm waiting for new ram for one of my Macs to run the regression tests. Appreciate the report though.

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Baggers · 2010-05-28 16:25

ok cool, cheers [noparse]:)[/noparse]
and yes, Ctrl TAB goes to next file and Ctrl Shift TAB goes back one, through your file tabs.

also, one last request ( at least for now [noparse]:D[/noparse] ) is for Top File, so Ctrl F10 ( Ctrl CMD F10 on Mac ) compiles the top file that you marked, that way, you don't need to constantly swap when you're altering a lower level file.

Thanks a bunch, other than that, it's fanbloomintastic [noparse]:D[/noparse],
Baggers.

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Mike Green · 2010-05-29 02:25

BradC,
I get a couple of "unresolved symbol" errors when compiling RamBlade Ouroboros.spin. There's an indirect constant reference involved to constants (PAL, ocols and orows) in Definitions.spin. I've done this sort of thing in the past successfully with the Propeller Tool. What's up?

BradC · 2010-05-29 02:58

Mike Green said...
BradC,
I get a couple of "unresolved symbol" errors when compiling RamBlade Ouroboros.spin. There's an indirect constant reference involved to constants (PAL, ocols and orows) in Definitions.spin. I've done this sort of thing in the past successfully with the Propeller Tool. What's up?

I have no idea Mike. It looks like a pretty strange bug. I'll get on that now.

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BradC · 2010-05-29 03:09

Ok, so it's a bug in the way the compiler is reporting the error. It's getting the unresolved symbol reference mixed up.

ofrqa                   =       ocolsfrq * ocols * 8

ocolsfrq is not declared until about 10 lines lower in the con file. So you are trying to use a constant that has not been declared yet.

I just checked and the Propeller tool is erroring out in the same place, but it correctly reports the error.

Move the following 4 lines above the ofrqa declaration and it will compile cleanly.

linefrq                 =       (15_734 * (1-PAL)) + (15_625 * PAL)   ' Line Freq (NTSC=15.734KHz, PAL=15.625KHz)
ocolsfrq                =       (22_478 * (1-PAL)) + (22_321 * PAL)   ' Hz per active pixel (NTSC=22478, PAL=22321)
tbackp                  =       (4500 * (1-PAL)) + (5800 * PAL)       ' time (ns) used in backp calc (NTSC=4.5us, PAL=5.8us)
tfrontp                 =       1500                                  ' time (ns) used in frontp calc (1.5us)

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Mike Green · 2010-05-29 03:16

Thanks a lot. Mike

slcott · 2010-06-08 20:59

can you add support for scrolling while using the find tool (ctrl-f)? i would find this useful.

BradC · 2010-06-08 23:57

slcott said...
can you add support for scrolling while using the find tool (ctrl-f)? i would find this useful.

I'll look into it.

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Baggers · 2010-06-17 09:24

Brad, does the PC version allow dropping files onto the editor, to open them? as I'm getting crashes dropping pbas files onto it, or spin files, to open files I have to go through the menus, or click the file list box on the left.
PS, any news on the Ctrl-TAB to jump to next file, and Shift-Ctrl-TAB to jump to previous file? [noparse]:D[/noparse]

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