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Parallax Internet NetBurner Kit

treborz17treborz17 Posts: 76
edited 2008-07-02 14:14 in General Discussion
My NetBurner is working fine getting access to it with a PC on my LAN but I am doing something wrong when I address it remotely.· I am using a D-Link DI-624 Router and assigned the Name of treborz17, and the static LAN·address of 192.168.0.101 to the NetBurner.· I have entered:

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to the Router's virtual server list.· Everything works as it should when I address the NetBurner from a compter on the same LAN with Http://192.168.0.101/ and my web page/pages display.· When I address the NetBurner over the Internet it fails to connect.· I use, as I understand I should, my WAN address like http://76.176.113.111:1717/ it does find it.

Now, to my surprize, when I put 192.168.0.101 in my DMZ and enable it, delete the netburner address from the router, and I enter my WAN address by itself into a remote PC browser every thing works fine, however, using the DMZ only allows me one NetBurner access to the Internet and is not as secure a using the virtual server.· Am I remotely addressing properly with http://wan address : 1717 TCP Port/?· I really am not sure how you are supposed to address the NetBerner over the Internet.

To reiterate, when I use the Router's DMZ the only address I have to use is Http://WAN address/ with no reference to the LAN.· The DMZ is a D-Link router function that allows only one computer to be exposed to the public on the Internet.

Would really appreciate any assistance,

Robert

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  • treborz17treborz17 Posts: 76
    edited 2008-06-29 20:16
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  • DgswanerDgswaner Posts: 795
    edited 2008-06-29 22:42
    go to this site, http://www.canyouseeme.org/ see if you have port 80 open,

    you need to set up port forwarding, this is different for ever router, the basic Idea is that when you access 76.176.113.111:80 it forwards port 80 to your local IP 192.168.0.101. look under port forwarding, or applications on your router.
    I would bet that it works at that point.

    good luck.

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  • treborz17treborz17 Posts: 76
    edited 2008-06-29 23:44
    Dgswaner said...
    go to this site, http://www.canyouseeme.org/ see if you have port 80 open,

    you need to set up port forwarding, this is different for ever router, the basic Idea is that when you access 76.176.113.111:80 it forwards port 80 to your local IP 192.168.0.101. look under port forwarding, or applications on your router.
    I would bet that it works at that point.

    good luck.

    Wow!· Thank you, it works.· What I don't understand is why it doesn't work when I foward Port 1717 a number that I just picked?· It appears like Port Forwarding on my Router is called virtial servers list.

    Very appreciative of your help,

    Robert
  • MSDTechMSDTech Posts: 342
    edited 2008-06-29 23:59
    Remember, the Netburner only listens on Port 80 for the http interface. Since it doesn't normally listen on port 1717, when you make a request to that port it doesn't know how to handle it. I don't have a D-Link DI-624 so I am not sure of its capabilities, I know with my linksys, it's port forwarding function can be set to take an external port (1717) and route it to a specific internal address and port (192.168.1.103:80). You might look to see if your D-Link has a similar ability.
  • treborz17treborz17 Posts: 76
    edited 2008-06-30 00:47
    I didn't see in the documents that the NetBurner only listens on Port 80 but I did note that my router indicated on there standard list (not enabled) that Port 80 was for HTML. I'll lookup what you suggested but is it possible to have more than one server on a port. Also, I have other purchased programs such as Sling Player and X-Box 360 that have auto matically assigned ports numbered in the thousands.

    If I'm asking too many questions cut me off because you have already solved my biggest headache going on and off for weeks.

    Robert
  • DgswanerDgswaner Posts: 795
    edited 2008-06-30 15:19
    80 is the standard port for HTML (web access) 21 is the port for FTPing, you'll likely need to forward that port if you want to upload files remotely. Is their a reason you want to use port 1717?

    it is not possible to have more than one server to a port, if you can change the port number on a server you could have a set up like:

    76.176.113.111:80 ---> 192.168.2.10 PINK
    76.176.113.111:81 ---> 192.168.2.6 WEB SERVER (computer)
    76.176.113.111:1026 ---> 192.168.2.8 video camera web server.

    all 3 could be web servers, you would just need to include the port number when going to anything but 80, if you typed in 76.176.113.111, because 80 is the default HTML port the browser would default to your pink.

    do get your other programs working you'll need to forward all of the necessary ports to the correct IP. one IP can have multiple ports forwarded to it.

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    Post Edited (Dgswaner) : 6/30/2008 3:26:32 PM GMT
  • treborz17treborz17 Posts: 76
    edited 2008-06-30 18:23
    No reason for the 1717 except I thought since companies like SlingBlade could use 5001/5001 that any port number could be used. That way I could have done as you indicated above.

    Thanks again for your help,

    Robert
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-07-01 17:25
    Another way you could test it is if your router has a DMZ port you could connect to that and use it.

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  • treborz17treborz17 Posts: 76
    edited 2008-07-01 21:58
    Thanks Chris, I mentioned in my initial posting that using DMZ works fine. I suppose I just had to find out why I couldn't do it through my routers virtial server. Using Port 88 works for me now. I need to read up on network management, and I am installing another D-Link DGL-4500 that is faster than my DI-624, can handle both 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz network cards, and it has port·re-direcrion besides virtial server lists.

    Robert

    Post Edited (treborz17) : 7/1/2008 10:10:37 PM GMT
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-07-02 14:14
    Robert,

    While back-tracking I missed the DMZ thing. Still, it only shows the issue is on the Router. Unfortunately there are so many different makes/models out there that it’s impossible to know the settings on them all. Most only allow you to forward a specific port through to a static IP (or device name). In this case the advice you got was correct…only port 80 would work. I have seen at least two routers that had the ability to remap/redirect ports. Although this is not typical, it does offer an extra level of security since most bots scan standard ports. In any event we’re glad you got it working!

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