Hi CardboardGuru,
I'm glad you got it working [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Oh, and a little hint for you, I've added two testing keys, key "A" for Advance level and key "D" for Death
PS, Andre' thanks for tip about the double line spacing, [noparse]:)[/noparse]
I have COM10 on my comp, and it's correct. Oh..it only loads to RAM? so, I have to have it connected to the TV when it says: Start Download on the MS-DOS application?
yup
there's two files, they both upload to ram
the first is a spin app that copies leveldata and title screen to $8000-$e800 then when that's completed, it displays the title screen and says done at the bottom, then you press a key on the PC keyboard ( not the hydra one [noparse]:)[/noparse] ) to start the second upload, this is the game, and again is only uploaded to RAM, not eeprom, so if you want to have it stay on eeprom, you run the first one as normal, then using prop tool or HAM to upload the second file to eeprom.
let me know if this helps
Baggers.
if not, I'll join them into one BIG eeprom, that you can use HAM to upload.
Glad you all like it [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Was as fun for me making it as it is playing it.
I'll be releasing the source later today, for all to have a look over if you want.
Bob, glad you got it working [noparse]:)[/noparse]
I recognize a little of this code... You added support for the VGA to Atari Joystick adapter. [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Very Cool. I'll give it a spin sometime tomorrow.
Oldbitcollector
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The comments and code above are proof that a million monkeys with a million propeller chips *could* write Shakespeare!
Clemens,
Thanks for the info, but the first file doesn't need loading to eeprom, as you just run it and it stores the important data in eeprom above the 32KB that prop tool has access to.
Then the second one is run or loaded into eeprom ( run if you just want to play it until you turn the hydra off and leave what was in there before hand, or load to eeprom, if you want to keep it there for when you turn it back on next time. )
Oldbitcollector.,
Yes, I'm going to make a joystick adapter too thanks, I put it in for people like us who don't have a hydra, but have a protoboard.
Hope you don't mind. [noparse]:D[/noparse]
I just tried your manic miner port and tho I never had a spectrum, it seems like a pretty good game. The only thing is the video driver is not fully compliant because at the top the screen it bends to the left. It does this from the top of the screen all the way down to the first row of tiles.·The timing code for your TV driver is off somewhere.
Hi Jasper,
Tried that but still to no avail my Redant 5" PSONE LCD is still curved at the top.
I am however going to attempt to do one myself, and have a go at making a PAL one too.
Before doing my next game on it.
As I've played with it enough now to get my hands dirty with it [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Baggers.
Edit: I have just checked 34+143 on the CRT TV in the living room, and this has fixed it thanks [noparse]:)[/noparse] must be the TFT on it's way out, it has had trouble starting up the past couple of days.
Okay, here's another fix, I used it on one of my own TV drivers to make it work on LCDs, but I can't test it on LCD now cause my brother's watching TV...
Is the sync the same on blank lines as it is on graphical ones?
That could also explain the upper screen being distorted.
I've one really old TV and the Manic Miner driver, released, displays nicely, but does show the vertical bar at the bottom of the screen. The Parallax Driver and QuickNTSC one posted here do not do this. BTW, my newer SONY WEGA displays this perfectly. (It displays a lot perfectly, making it a horrible test unit...)
Any chance at improving the contrast on some of the colors? Maybe this isn't true to speccy output, but would significantly improve the game display on many of the screens.
yeah, my panasonic HD displays it perfectly too
by the way Jasper, my CRT in the front room now displays it correctly [noparse]:)[/noparse] so I'm guessing it's the LCD on it's way out, will do some testing with that on other things.
Yup, just plugged DTV into LCD, and yup, does the same thing, tilts off to the left at the top, so I'm going to recon it's the LCD now and the driver is now perfect.
Thanks for the help in sorting this.
Cheers,
Baggers.
potatohead said...
Is the sync the same on blank lines as it is on graphical ones?
That could also explain the upper screen being distorted.
I've one really old TV and the Manic Miner driver, released, displays nicely, but does show the vertical bar at the bottom of the screen. The Parallax Driver and QuickNTSC one posted here do not do this. BTW, my newer SONY WEGA displays this perfectly. (It displays a lot perfectly, making it a horrible test unit...)
Any chance at improving the contrast on some of the colors? Maybe this isn't true to speccy output, but would significantly improve the game display on many of the screens.
My kids spend a long time playing this game, BTW.
It's sorted now, I'll zip the source up and put it on my site and·I should change the version number of the source to 002 to keep Andre' happy [noparse]:)[/noparse]
As for the contrast, god knows lol, might be easier and faster for you to change the setting on your tv like I said the Spectrum Display Driver is JLC's not mine, but I intend to do my own version.
Glad your kids enjoy playing it [noparse]:)[/noparse] ·
When I wrote my NTSC text mode driver, I had the same problem - but only on LCDs. But I got it fixed by moving the low VSYNC forward so that phase stays the same...
potatohead, glad you like it too, it does have a nice retro feel to it, that was one of the reasons I wanted to use the spectrum display over CardboardGuru's DK display with sprites, as the sprite would have been nice, but removed the retroness of the game with attribute clashes.
Cheers for the tip Jasper_M, probably wouldn't have seen that as I'm not an NTSC person, I've done PAL timing before with some other company's small chip which I probably can't mention here lol
but as you can imagine, those things aren't really fast, specially at full speed they're only 10mips, so it was RGB using scart, did quite well on that, but any changes to game logic meant changing timing to make sure to keep the HSync going and sound I did sample playing in the 4us HSync delay [noparse];)[/noparse] but that's another story, anyway, now I have something fast enough to do the colour burst, I'd like to do attempt a PAL display.
Jim,
I have to say that what you have achieved is amazing.
As I sit here typing this my 9 year old daughter is playing MM and thinks it is soooo cool!
The Xbox 360 won't get a look in now.
The only thing I have spotted so far is that after game over the name of the last level you were in appears on the tile screen.
I can't remember if the original did or didn't...
Hi Coley,
Thanks [noparse]:)[/noparse]
I'm glad your daughter likes it so much lol, sorry you spent so much getting an Xbox360 when you could have just got her a Demoboard + SD card interface, would have been a lot cheaper for you [noparse]:D[/noparse]
As for level name on title screen after game over, I'll have a quick play on the original to check.
I'll probably have a play with putting in some jump sound fx too [noparse]:)[/noparse] to finish it off completely, before looking into doing Jet Set Willy.
Comments
I'm glad you got it working [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Oh, and a little hint for you, I've added two testing keys, key "A" for Advance level and key "D" for Death
PS, Andre' thanks for tip about the double line spacing, [noparse]:)[/noparse]
there's two files, they both upload to ram
the first is a spin app that copies leveldata and title screen to $8000-$e800 then when that's completed, it displays the title screen and says done at the bottom, then you press a key on the PC keyboard ( not the hydra one [noparse]:)[/noparse] ) to start the second upload, this is the game, and again is only uploaded to RAM, not eeprom, so if you want to have it stay on eeprom, you run the first one as normal, then using prop tool or HAM to upload the second file to eeprom.
let me know if this helps
Baggers.
if not, I'll join them into one BIG eeprom, that you can use HAM to upload.
Post Edited (Bob the Builder on a C64) : 5/23/2007 10:04:46 PM GMT
Thanks, BTW. This is a great, fun game. Just got done playing a few levels. Love it.
Was as fun for me making it as it is playing it.
I'll be releasing the source later today, for all to have a look over if you want.
Bob, glad you got it working [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Feel free to ask questions, if need be.
http://www.jimbagley.co.uk/ManicMiner.rar
http://www.jimbagley.co.uk/ManicMiner.zip
Post Edited (Baggers) : 5/24/2007 6:32:09 PM GMT
Many thanks for sharing. I'm a Speccy fan and I love this game. Thank you for your great work.
Thomas
No Probs Thomas, glad you enjoy it.
Baggers
Very Cool. I'll give it a spin sometime tomorrow.
Oldbitcollector
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The comments and code above are proof that a million monkeys with a million propeller chips *could* write Shakespeare!
Thanks for the info, but the first file doesn't need loading to eeprom, as you just run it and it stores the important data in eeprom above the 32KB that prop tool has access to.
Then the second one is run or loaded into eeprom ( run if you just want to play it until you turn the hydra off and leave what was in there before hand, or load to eeprom, if you want to keep it there for when you turn it back on next time. )
Oldbitcollector.,
Yes, I'm going to make a joystick adapter too thanks, I put it in for people like us who don't have a hydra, but have a protoboard.
Hope you don't mind. [noparse]:D[/noparse]
Baggers.
Cheers,
Baggers.
VSCL_BackPorch = 269
with
VSCL_BackPorch = 34+143
Tried that but still to no avail my Redant 5" PSONE LCD is still curved at the top.
I am however going to attempt to do one myself, and have a go at making a PAL one too.
Before doing my next game on it.
As I've played with it enough now to get my hands dirty with it [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Baggers.
Edit: I have just checked 34+143 on the CRT TV in the living room, and this has fixed it thanks [noparse]:)[/noparse] must be the TFT on it's way out, it has had trouble starting up the past couple of days.
Cheers for the tip Jasper.
Post Edited (Baggers) : 5/26/2007 11:58:28 AM GMT
replace the VSYNC_LOW function with
VSyncLow mov R0, #6 :Loop mov VSCL, #VSCL_FrontPorch+VSCL_SynchronizingPulse waitvid COLOR_SYNC, #0 mov VSCL, #VSCL_SynchronizingPulse waitvid COLOR_BLACK, #0 mov VSCL, #VSCL_BackPorch ' BackPorch = BreezeAway + ColourBurst + WaitToData waitvid COLOR_SYNC, #0 mov VSCL, _VSCL_VisibleLine2 waitvid COLOR_SYNC, #0 djnz R0, #:Loop VSyncLow_Ret retand put
_VSCL_VisibleLine2 long VSCL_VisibleLine-VSCL_SynchronizingPulse
somewhere among the other vscl values.
That could also explain the upper screen being distorted.
I've one really old TV and the Manic Miner driver, released, displays nicely, but does show the vertical bar at the bottom of the screen. The Parallax Driver and QuickNTSC one posted here do not do this. BTW, my newer SONY WEGA displays this perfectly. (It displays a lot perfectly, making it a horrible test unit...)
Any chance at improving the contrast on some of the colors? Maybe this isn't true to speccy output, but would significantly improve the game display on many of the screens.
My kids spend a long time playing this game, BTW.
by the way Jasper, my CRT in the front room now displays it correctly [noparse]:)[/noparse] so I'm guessing it's the LCD on it's way out, will do some testing with that on other things.
Yup, just plugged DTV into LCD, and yup, does the same thing, tilts off to the left at the top, so I'm going to recon it's the LCD now and the driver is now perfect.
Thanks for the help in sorting this.
Cheers,
Baggers.
As for the contrast, god knows lol, might be easier and faster for you to change the setting on your tv
Glad your kids enjoy playing it [noparse]:)[/noparse]
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I'll look at the sources for the colors. I want to examine the speccy driver anyway.
Cheers for the tip Jasper_M, probably wouldn't have seen that as I'm not an NTSC person, I've done PAL timing before with some other company's small chip which I probably can't mention here lol
but as you can imagine, those things aren't really fast, specially at full speed they're only 10mips, so it was RGB using scart, did quite well on that, but any changes to game logic meant changing timing to make sure to keep the HSync going and sound I did sample playing in the 4us HSync delay [noparse];)[/noparse] but that's another story, anyway, now I have something fast enough to do the colour burst, I'd like to do attempt a PAL display.
Baggers.
http://www.jimbagley.co.uk/ManicMiner002.zip
http://www.jimbagley.co.uk/ManicMiner002.rar
Baggers.
PS, Anyone who had curved top line of screen display with the previous version, please try this and let me know if it's worked or not on your tv.
I have to say that what you have achieved is amazing.
As I sit here typing this my 9 year old daughter is playing MM and thinks it is soooo cool!
The Xbox 360 won't get a look in now.
The only thing I have spotted so far is that after game over the name of the last level you were in appears on the tile screen.
I can't remember if the original did or didn't...
Anyways, well done sir you are top of the class.
Best regards,
Coley
PS Am using Demo board and SD card interface
Thanks [noparse]:)[/noparse]
I'm glad your daughter likes it so much lol, sorry you spent so much getting an Xbox360 when you could have just got her a Demoboard + SD card interface, would have been a lot cheaper for you [noparse]:D[/noparse]
As for level name on title screen after game over, I'll have a quick play on the original to check.
I'll probably have a play with putting in some jump sound fx too [noparse]:)[/noparse] to finish it off completely, before looking into doing Jet Set Willy.
Jim.