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Now All We Need is the Queen Alien

GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
in Robotics
Jeff Bezos doing his best Ellen Ripley impression:



I don't know what all the fuss is about. I built one just like it this morning before breakfast.

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  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,176
    It looks like the creature comforts have not been addressed. What looks like a pillow helps with that.
    If this is eventually going to walk un-tethered. No matter how much confidence he has in it's abilities and safety, it is a long way down, if you fall on your face.
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  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    Totally impractical and maximum cool!
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2017-03-21 - 18:08:57
    Impractical? I'm thinking just the opposite when the balance issues are fully worked out. Such a robot, hydraulically powered of course, could sift through rubble at an earthquake site where ordinary machinery cannot go. Or (as in Aliens, ergo my reference) act as a universal skip loader in warehouses. Bezos is no fool -- that's his plan for getting into this level of robotics. (He's still said to be interested in buying Boston Dynamics.)

    Yes, it looks like a takeback from a Transformers movie, but the overall practicality is there. Exosuits are the future.
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    GordonMcComb wrote: »
    ... when the balance issues are fully worked out.

    Call me then and it's my treat at FiveGuys!

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    erco wrote: »
    GordonMcComb wrote: »
    ... when the balance issues are fully worked out.
    Call me then and it's my treat at FiveGuys!

    Lest you forget Jeff Bezos is the guy who owns a space exploration company where the rocket lands back on earth the way it left. Thought I'd never see that in my lifetime, except in old 50s sci-fi movies.



    If they can do this, they can balance a hunk of metal on two legs. Why, BD has already shown how it's done, and that's the company Bezos is thinking of buying (if Toyota doesn't beat him to it).

    I'll take mine medium-rare, thanks very much.
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    If walking was that easy, everyone would be doing it. :)

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    All it takes is (good) math, and a few million dollars:

  • PublisonPublison Posts: 10,720
    GordonMcComb wrote: »
    erco wrote: »
    GordonMcComb wrote: »
    ... when the balance issues are fully worked out.
    Call me then and it's my treat at FiveGuys!


    If they can do this, they can balance a hunk of metal on two legs. Why, BD has already shown how it's done, and that's the company Bezos is thinking of buying (if Toyota doesn't beat him to it).

    Doesn't Google own Boston Dynamics now?
    Infernal Machine
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    Of course that begs the question: Requiring millions of dollars of sensors and computers, what is the human bringing to the party? Wouldn't a function-specific robot be better than an exoskeleton? I cringe when I see the exoskeleton walkers in Avatar. Cool looking and well animated, but impractical IMO. BD appears to have the best tech yet, but I haven't seen them demonstrating an exoskeleton yet.
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,268
    erco wrote: »
    GordonMcComb wrote: »
    ... when the balance issues are fully worked out.

    Call me then and it's my treat at FiveGuys!

    My turn, and we can have the rover pick up for us.
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    xanadu wrote: »
    My turn, and we can have the rover pick up for us.

    Sold! We can watch any of these movies while we eat!



    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    erco wrote: »
    what is the human bringing to the party? Wouldn't a function-specific robot be better than an exoskeleton?

    There's no need to make all machines autonomous in cases where size and weight can be a disadvantage to safety. Too, just as human-operated combat robots are more effective at destruction (and fun to watch) than autonomous robots, exoskeletons provide a better melding of human intuition, creative problem solving, and hydraulic strength.

    Publison, yes Google (actually Alphabet) owns BD now, but they're on record as wanting to sell.



  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,176
    We are all in trouble, if one day an exoskeleton could be offered to the general public, like a atv, snowmobile or motorcycle. People can use these devices now to create a nuisance. If you don’t like someone, just go flip their car.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    The general public would be no more the buyer of an exoskeleton robot than he or she would be buying their own helicopter or any other very expensive piece of equipment. A new helicopter costs about $5-8 million. Your basic exosuit, as might be used for firefighting or rescue, would begin there.
  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,176
    edited 2017-03-25 - 11:28:39
    GordonMcComb wrote: »
    The general public would be no more the buyer of an exoskeleton robot than he or she would be buying their own helicopter or any other very expensive piece of equipment. A new helicopter costs about $5-8 million. Your basic exosuit, as might be used for firefighting or rescue, would begin there.



    Lest we forget:

  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    Wow, I remember watching that tank rampage live. Dude obviously had issues.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Nelson_(plumber)
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,176
    erco wrote: »
    Wow, I remember watching that tank rampage live. Dude obviously had issues.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Nelson_(plumber)



    You guy's in CA have all the fun.


    Has it always been that way, or did Wikipedia change their format. I had originally posted that link, but because I couldn't get specific with it, I changed it to a YouTube link instead.
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    edited 2017-03-25 - 14:51:16
    Weird. Thought it took. Retried, same results. Hmmm. Not happy.
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,176
    edited 2017-03-25 - 15:36:53
    erco wrote: »
    Weird. ThoJught it took. Retried, same results. Hmmm. Not happy.


    Removing the brackets on plumber, and adding every symbol between words that would work, only brings up a page of no results.
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    @Gordon: I may soon be eating my words (as you eat a Five Guys burger) if James Bruton has his way. If this kid can progress this well in his parents' attic, Lord knows what may be going on in secret labs around the world.

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,002
    MikeDYur wrote: »
    Removing the brackets on plumber, and adding every symbol between words that would work, only brings up a page of no results.

    Use the link icon to add URL tags.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Nelson_(plumber)

    I usually use the tags to add links to specific words. Here's the same link but just using the the guys name. Shawn Nelson

    If you press the "Quote" button you can see the added URL tags.

    I personally don't remember this incident. I'll need to read the above linked articles to see what it was all about.
    Duane

    Index of my projects and interesting forum posts
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    erco wrote: »
    @Gordon: I may soon be eating my words (as you eat a Five Guys burger) if James Bruton has his way.

    Assistive robotics is the future. While autonomous machines are the ones we see as "real" robots, I feel there is greater near-term potential for truly innovative technologies involving using robots as "amplifiers" for human mobility, intuition, and guidance. A good current example is the Da Vinci surgical robot. The value of the Da Vinci is well documented.

    Bruton demonstrates that exoskeletons don't have to be the skip loaders from Aliens. A robotic frame that can help a paralyzed person get around in a bipedal world would be a life changer for these folks. Yes, they already have these in limited degree, but they're not yet commercial products in this country. It's shameful we don't have more to show for our R&D.

    Add some cameras yanked off that Google self-driving car, and you give that exoskeleton vision. Now it can autonomously navigate hallways for those people with various forms of palsy and other degenerative nerve diseases. Imagine the improvement in quality of life for these people. No more 24-hour assistance. They can do more for themselves, and that's a basic human desire.

    I'm all for giving robots brains, but I believe we limit our destiny by not considering -- without our becoming the Borg -- how machines can accentuate what we already have, making us Better. Stronger. Faster.

  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    Plus, he uses... WOOD! He calls out several silver-painted wood members.

    "It's the wood that makes it good." Newman
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,176
    edited 2017-04-06 - 15:04:42
    This video was from October 2016, so I hope it wasn't posted here before. But it has a little something for everyone, if your into mechanical advantage.

  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    edited 2017-04-18 - 16:17:57
    I thought #10 looked neat until I realized that it's just a pantograph linkage. It keeps up with no lag at all!

    Still a nice puppeteering rig, much like "Walking with Dinosaurs".

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    We've been following Martin Molin (#1 in the video) for some time. Robotics/complex mechanics in performance art is a growing trend. Glad to see it.
  • ercoerco Posts: 19,391
    Check the guy's facial scars at 1:17. Is that rig three laws safe?

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    He's playing a "scarface" character. See if you can find the full video and it'll make more sense.
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