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Cool concept question...Laptop with extra power?

T&E EngineerT&E Engineer Posts: 1,396
edited 2007-11-26 08:08 in General Discussion
I was reading in an online magazine something about a contest that·a company like Intel is holding.

If you have a laptop and remove the power·cord and battery, how can you design in an alternate power source to keep the laptop running for 30 additional minutes kind of like what a UPS would do - but keep in all in the laptop idea.

I was thinking of either solar pannels built into the laptop case or possibly a super cap circuit.

What are your ideas? I thought this was an interesting question that I wanted to pass along for fun and discussion.

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  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2007-11-22 20:59
    T&E Engineer,

    The dimensions of the Solar Cells required for a stand alone Solar powered Laptop might prohibit a continuous Solar solution, but you could certainly design something that is rechargeable.

    Looking at my own Laptop... I have a 1.9Amp 19V power supply going into my Laptop.... 1.9Amp X 19V = 36 Watts ... For comparison, I also have a Solar Panel rated for 23 Watts that measures
    18 x 11 inches for an overall area of 198 square inches or roughly 9 square inches per Watt.

    Compared to my laptop dimensions of 16 x 11 inches for an overall area of 176 square inches I could produce about 19.5 Watts given the surface area of my laptop ... from a charging perspective,
    using Solar Cells, your charging ability would be almost cut in half compared to what you would have while you are "plugged in" with a power supply. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, the only thing
    I would be concerned with would be leaving my laptop sitting out in the sun.

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  • T&E EngineerT&E Engineer Posts: 1,396
    edited 2007-11-22 21:44
    You have some good points.·I just wanted to see what people might do to solve this as a fun exercise. Interesting concept all the same.
  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2007-11-22 23:31
    build a dynamometer that could plug in to a USB port and recharge the batter....not sure how happy the USB port would be with that!

    It could be small - handpowered....or it could be larger - pedal powered....

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  • crgwbrcrgwbr Posts: 614
    edited 2007-11-24 00:24
    I have several flashlights that contain a small generator that is geared so when you squeeze a lever on the side, it generates power. Then, when you release the lever, a ratchet kicks in so that the generator can continue to spin. You could modify this concept, so that instead of powering LEDs, it goes through a v-reg and into the laptop. Then, if you're watching a movie or something passive like that on it, you could sit back and charge your laptop while getting a very gentle workout.

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  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2007-11-24 18:36
    Beau, what model laptop do you have?

    36W isn't that much, really. Even my humble 12" iBook(1.33GHz) has a 45W PSU, and I can't remember the last time I saw a HP PSU rated at less than 3.5A(usually at 18.5V)...

    My Psion MC400 runs about 20Hours on a 7.2V/1AH Ni-cad pack, but I doubt that you're using a computer that old...
    (1989)

    Anyway, a solar panel is not really going to do the trick, and if it's to be built INTO the machine itself, a hand-crank is probably not the way to go, either.
    Is the solution to be a 'multi-use' or single-shot solution?
    (single-shot assumes that you can do maintenance between uses, while multi-use assumes that it's instantly ready to use again)

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  • T&amp;E EngineerT&amp;E Engineer Posts: 1,396
    edited 2007-11-24 20:55
    I was able to find the electronic magazine I saw this contest in:

    Nov 2007 issue of Elektor (UK)

    http://depositfiles.com/en/files/2259791

    It's on page 40.

    It is also attached in a WORD document.
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2007-11-26 02:56
    Gadgetman,

    Ohh Yeah.... Woops... I rechecked the Power Supply... try 7.9Amps at 19Volts rather than 1.9Amps at 19Volts ... So 150 Watts rather than 36 Watts.

    For some reason I could have sworn that it was 1.9Amps ... Anyway it's a 3.2GHz Gateway Laptop with 2 Gigs of Memory.

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  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2007-11-26 08:08
    Of course, some of that capacity is for battery recharge and 'worst case' draws(several USB accessories) but still...

    We'd still have to assume at least 30W for a small/ultraportable or 45 - 60W for larger models.

    I'd still like to see the contest rules, not just the Elector article.

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