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Protection diodes in relay applications

ProfessorwizProfessorwiz Posts: 153
edited 2007-11-15 17:46 in General Discussion
Hi all,
I'm pretty new to electronics.· I've been told by many people (including the instructor of an electronics course I'm taking) to use a diode to protect my chips from the reverse voltage from a relay.· They also tell me to use a fast one, but I've not heard any specific recommendations.· I want to use my SX chip to run a relay, small pc board mount one, does anyone have any kind of an idea what one I should start with?· Or perhaps some specs?

Thanks,
Russ

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  • Twisted PairTwisted Pair Posts: 177
    edited 2007-11-11 03:33
    Professorwiz,
    If your relay is a mechanical one, a 1N4148 works well for me although others like the 1N4001 or 1N4004 for higher currents. Solid state relays normally dont require a diode....Radio Shack should have these....

    Twisted Pair....
  • JonnyMacJonnyMac Posts: 9,216
    edited 2007-11-11 03:35
    Do use a diode, but also drive the relay through a simple transistor buffer; this will minimize the source/sink current on the pin and put another device between your relay coil and the SX.
  • Twisted PairTwisted Pair Posts: 177
    edited 2007-11-11 03:44
    Good point JonnyMac....I like the 2N2222 or the 2N3904....

    Twisted Pair....
  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2007-11-11 04:07
    Hello,

    I think you'll find just what you're looking for in one of the documents on the Parallax website. It works great with the SX28 chip!

    http://www.parallax.com/Portals/0/Downloads/docs/cols/nv/vol1/col/nv6.pdf

    Hope this helps,

    Robert
  • QuattroRS4QuattroRS4 Posts: 916
    edited 2007-11-11 04:18
    I use 1N4007 diodes in reverse bias - as its Vrrm - peak repetitive reverse voltage is 1000v -

    Twisted Pair - a 1N4001 - is not really suitable for this purpose with a Vrrm of only 50v !!

    I have attached a data sheet ...

    Regards,
    John Twomey

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  • kjennejohnkjennejohn Posts: 171
    edited 2007-11-11 04:59
    Hi.
    Some other sugestions:
    - Use a driver IC like the ULN2803. These are eight Darlingtons in a single chip. Each will handle a five hundred mA. They also have the protective diode built in.
    www.st.com/stonline/books/pdf/docs/1536.pdf for the -2803.

    - Get a relay with the diode built in.
    Here's a page from Digi-Key: search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll
    This page is a list of small signal relays that contain the suppression diode. These are various contact/power combos.

    Happy hunting! 'Luck on your project!
    kenjj
  • Twisted PairTwisted Pair Posts: 177
    edited 2007-11-11 05:01
    Roger That QuattroRS4,
    Just thought that a nudge in the right direction would help but it turns out that I learned something as well. Thanks for the help. Speaking of help QuattroRS4, can you take a look at my recent post regarding a source for servo pots ? I need Help. I've been pulling hair out trying to locate one of these....I'm almost bald now. Sorry for invading your post Professorwiz....

    Twisted Pair....
  • kjennejohnkjennejohn Posts: 171
    edited 2007-11-11 05:04
    Nuts. That last link for a page of relays is a bust, it doesn't take you to a menu. It is a starting point, though. Find 'relays' farther down the list and try your luck with Digi-Keys selection system. You're looking for all small signal relays with the diode builtin. Perhaps your instructor can help.

    Well, maybe next time. *sigh*
    kenjj
  • ProfessorwizProfessorwiz Posts: 153
    edited 2007-11-12 11:20
    Thanks All for your help!

    Johnnymac, that does simplify things for me, using a transistor.· I've just bought the incorrect relays - 12v but have a whole reel of 3904's so I'll just go 12v and use the transistors and diodes.·

    Robotworkshop, thanks, I just never am able to find exactly what I'm looking for in the huge amount of info on the web site here!· Not that it's a bad thing.·

    Thanks again.

    Russ
  • StampNut2StampNut2 Posts: 224
    edited 2007-11-15 17:46
    Professorwiz: Check out my web site for tutorial robosapienv2-4mem8.page.tl/Components-.htm This may also help you, Has a relay section.

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    robosapienv2-4mem8.page.tl/
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