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Switching 24 Amps

Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
edited 2007-10-29 16:03 in BASIC Stamp
All--

Gee. I guess my idea about using a 74HC595 and a 5vdc relay to switch 12vdc at 24 amps is not too realistic. I cannot seem to find any relays that even come close.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

--Bill

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2007-10-28 23:31
  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2007-10-29 03:07
    Mike--

    If I am searching for the right part at Digikey, then the version I want runs about $55.00. Sound right?

    --Bill

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2007-10-29 03:34
    I suspect the price is right. This part is rated at 100VDC and 40A. That's more than what you need, but I didn't see anything in lower ratings that would still fit your needs. You might do your own websearch for something more like 20VDC and 25A and see if you can find something cheaper.
  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2007-10-29 03:37
    Mike--

    Ha! I already have! Nada!

    Unless this first 'bot (well, the first in 30 years . . . things have CHANGED!) is a stunning success, I am beginning to think a good old fashioned manual switch might be in order.

    --Bill

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  • metron9metron9 Posts: 1,100
    edited 2007-10-29 05:35
    Can you switch the low side? RFP30N06LE-ND $0.89 60V 30 amp

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2007-10-29 05:46
    Futurlec has a 100VDC 40A SSR for $20. That's better than $55
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2007-10-29 05:59
    If you need an optoisolated high-side driver, consider using a photovoltaic output optoisolator (as opposed to a phototransistor type) coupled with a cheap N-channel MOSFET. In this configuration, the opto output would connect between gate and source, with the drain connected to your supply voltage, and the source connected to your load (whose other end is the negative supply). As always, a diode across any inductive load is de rigeur.

    -Phil
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2007-10-29 06:10
    Bill Chennault,

    First thing that comes to mind something like that would be an automotive relay... If you have 12V @ 24 Amps, why not use some of that to energize a 12V relay with an NPN transistor suitable for the Relay Coil. You could still use a 74HC595 to drive the base of your transistor which in turn would drive the relay. According to the datasheet below, at 12V your transistor would need to provide 145mA to drive the relay coil with a nominal coil resistance of 83 Ohms. If you were to use the 6V coil, your transistor would need to supply 289mA to drive the relay coil with a nominal coil resistance of 21 Ohms.

    This company offers a 6V, 12V, and 24V coil capable of driving 40A
    http://www.citrelay.com/Relay Products.htm
    http://www.citrelay.com/Catalog pages/Relays/A2 Catalog.pdf

    The datasheet says that the pickup voltage is about 75% of the coil rating so a 6V coil would pickup at about 4.5V ... After the diode drop of a transistor you’re cutting it close. I would go with a 12V coil if I could.

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2007-10-29 13:40
    metron9, Mike, Phil, and Beau--

    Thank you for the suggestions . . . I will have to study them, for sure. It definitely looks like there is an economical solution that can be automated.

    --Bill

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2007-10-29 14:13
    Mike--

    I am now a Futurlec customer. Not a very big one, but a customer none the less!

    I wonder where I can get that heat conductive silicone grease the data sheet talks about?

    Thank you!

    --Bill

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2007-10-29 14:41
    Mike--

    Duh. JAMECO had the grease.

    Thanks.

    --Bill

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  • allanlane5allanlane5 Posts: 3,815
    edited 2007-10-29 14:44
    Shoot, Radio Shack has that grease.
  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2007-10-29 16:03
    allanlane5--

    I had to order some stuff from Jameco, anyway. I went to RS yesterday and the day before. Pretty soon they are going to think I am stalking them.

    --Bill

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