Is the price of Propeller going to increase soon?
william chan
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I heard that packaging for the Propeller is done in Taiwan.
Considering the way the US dollar keeps falling against other currencies, don't you think this is inevitable?
Just thinking aloud on what may be in store in the near future to get prepared...
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Considering the way the US dollar keeps falling against other currencies, don't you think this is inevitable?
Just thinking aloud on what may be in store in the near future to get prepared...
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I remember a thread a few months back telling about a new Parallax facility somewhere in Asia, perhaps if you own the plant there, it doesn't matter what the dollar is doing, because no money is changing hands when the products are imported to the USA??
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Brian
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The local and regional cost of the Propeller chip and the other parts may not change significantly, but the amount of dollars needed to pay for the assembled board will go up as the value of the dollar decreases in relationship to the various regional currencies.
Now that I think of it that way you are correct. I was incorrectly thinking along the lines of, If you sell omelets, and you own the henhouse, then your price of supplies will never go up.
But in this real world example, there are other factors to be considered (labor and supplies). And if the US dollar is worth less, you have to send more of them to buy the things you need to produce the goods.
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Brian
uController.com - home of SpinStudio
The first time I noticed this was when my Cappuccino in our Cafeteria rised for 20%, the reason stated see above.
The price for Espresso also rised for 20%....
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Chip Gracey
Parallax, Inc.
Alas, the distributors will have their own view on this matter :-(
Not off topic at all. We are talking chickens and eggs here, we don't want to leave out the cows. It'll have them sad if left out, and we want happy cows!
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Brian
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Off topic enough yet [noparse]:)[/noparse]
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deSilva: Milk went up almost 50% since year begin, and the week before last, milk products got almost 20%, yogurt, for instance. Butter got 0,50€ increase at the end of Sept alone! :-(. Not that I eat too much butter, but milk and yogurt are still a great deal of my diet, I mean I need to grow!
Public transport otoh got upped some 12% or so in the last 4 years.
The propeller may be cheaper if we order it via digikey (was 10€ something last time I checked, now it is 10,07€ a bit cheaper), but locally by sander, it is stil at 17,70€ apiece !
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Never mind milk. Why does botteled WATER cost more per gallon than gasoline (in the US)??
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Paul Baker
Propeller Applications Engineer
Parallax, Inc.
Post Edited (Paul Baker (Parallax)) : 10/23/2007 7:00:25 PM GMT
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Paul Baker
Propeller Applications Engineer
Parallax, Inc.
I'm not sure if the Taiwan dollar will follow the US dollar down or finally jump ship. Usually, the Taiwan dollar follows the USD because the foreign reserve are heavily in USD. They would have to get rid of a heck of a lot of T-Bills as it is one of the larger reserves in the world.
The cause of this potential drastic severe drop and and equally drastic and severe jump in gold prices would simply be Mainland China finally letting the market decide the value of its currency, the Yuan, rather than having it tied to the USD.
Sooner or later this will occur and China might see that now, before the 2008 Olympics, as an excellent time to elect the change as tourist will have already booked their trips and just have to accept the rate change.
I am just wonder if the big steel mills, like Posco, and metals providers, like Rio Tinto to China are getting paid in USD or Yuan. If they have long-term delivery contracts in Yuan, their stocks may have a big windfall profit to report.
At the end of the day, I don't think it will affect Parallax as much as an economic slow down might. And, it might help to have more affluent buyers abroad. Europe will gain business that the US may not longer provide.
IN sum, we who have next to nothing also have nothing to worry about.
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Although Karl Marx had a somewhat stronger version of this, I also like...
For my money, when a Propeller costs less than a pack of cigarettes in New York... then something is seriously wrong. And we are very close to seeing that happen.
deSilva,
Our milk also went up... but ham and turkey is now $1/lb... that's not a typo. ONE USD per pound...for ham and turkey... no joke... at Walmart. Probably comes from China and will be recalled shortly after it is consumed[noparse]:)[/noparse]
Apples cost more because Australian kiwi herders are cheaper than German apple shepards (Germany has national health insurance.)
(What I don't understand is how an acre of farmland in Kabul is worth more than 20 acres in Illinois... local taxes? ...maybe it is the crop rotations?)
You have been studying the wrong Marx... Karl was all screwed up. Groucho, on the other hand understood money.
"Money frees you from doing things that you dislike."
Groucho Marx
(Which isn't true when your Government has all of the money.)
And I just learned the many connotations of "kiwi"
My dictionary says what I was referring to is sometimes called "chinese gooseberry"
It is now so low compared to the NOK that it's almost painful NOT to take advantage and buy a ton of stuff from the USA, and Parallax in particular(unfortunately, I have no spare cash now...)
In fact, while I was out driving yesterday, there was a program on the radio(on NRK, the state run broadcaster) about how to shop on the net, and from USA in particular, with tips of what to save the most from, pitfalls and T(r)OLL and VAT rules.
As for the price of milk, here the farmer gets 3.50NOK/Litre, we pay about 11NOK/L, Diesel is 10.80/L, and Gasoline(95 Octane) 11.80/L
OJ I can get for about 7.50NOK...
Bottled water?
Isn't 'Evian' a popular brand?
Hold it up to a mirror...
Edit: Todays exchange rate is 5.45NOK - US$1
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Post Edited (Gadgetman) : 10/24/2007 5:26:01 PM GMT
But current economic development owes much more to a non-communist author, W.W. Rostow's The Stages of Economic Growth - A non-communist manifeso.
Parallax has done a wonderful job of combining the chip with the board and produced Protoboards for the SX-28 and the Propeller that are cheaper that other form factors. In other words, Parallax is very aware of their customer's pocket books.
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Until this condition is met, all you have is central planning in some socially accepted garb, which attempts to rationalize markets through increasing centralization and social normalization.
Attempting to control capital by controlling the flow of currency is absurd.
In all such systems, unless one restrains growth, markets collapse due to the net flow of currency equivalents into new markets. What then happens depends upon the actual value of the collapsing markets. Too much growth and essential markets collapse. Too little growth and you have a failing society. All such systems are terminally unstable. When the need to expand exceeds the capacity to do so, various emergencies ensue, which continue until either new growth stops or the society is living under marshal law.... at which point, the system is re-rationalized, through various social sharing mechanisms and then everything starts all over again.
How many times can Europe afford to re-invent itself?
How long can we do the Texas two step?
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