I've seen a number of posts with similar problems. I wonder if anyone has gotten to the bottom of it? Try putting in a comment with the circuit symbols. If those don't show correctly, you may be displaying the wrong font. The IDE comes with its own font.
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Hi Fred, I am just getting started exploring the Prop and yesterday was the first time I had opened the Prop tool on my desktop. I had v1.05.7 and I had the overlapping characters and virtually unreadable text.
I downloaded v1.05.8 thinking that may be the trouble and almost freaked out when it opened with a huge overlapping 72pt font. So yesterday I discovered how to adjust font size and how to use the character chart.
Kens hint about the Parallax font led me to adjusting my windows settings , rebooting my computer and finally deleting the Parallax font from the Windows\Font folder which did the trick.
If you can answer some questions, it may help me determine what caused your problem (we've been unable to duplicate the exact problem you had):
1) What OS are you using?
2) When you ran v1.05.7 for the first time, were you logged in with a different user account than when you fixed the problem?· If so, what were the differences in the permission settings for the users?
3) What "windows settings" did you adjust before you deleted the Parallax.ttf font?
4) Have you checked to see if the Parallax.ttf font is installed again?
The Propeller Tool checks the Windows Fonts folder for the Parallax.ttf font upon startup, and if not there, it installs it.· If the user permissions are too low to allow it to install, it will instead use a memory-resident image of the font for every session.
I've never heard anyone say that deleting the font solved the problem, and it doesn't make sense given the nature of the software.· What would make more sense is that the "windows settings" you changed fixed it; such as changing the "Language for non-Unicode Programs" setting to English (United States).
2) The desktop is a one user account and I have administrative rights allthough McAfee will occasionally tell me I don't.
3) I have a 19" wide screen LCD set at 1440x900 and 96 DPI , I adjusted to 1024 x 768 without any effect then from 96 DPI to 120 DPI without any effect. I tried various font sizes in the IDE with Ctrl up/down. No other settings have been altered. I restored the settings I began with and rebooted before eventually deleting the font file. The Propeller tool works great on my laptop which is Win XP home edition.
4) Yes the alternative Parallax font is installed, there is a large difference in file size. The file I deleted is 1.37 MB and the existing is 133 KB. Restoring the larger file brings the problem back. I have kept the file that gives me the problem.
Since deleting the original fonts I have worked the examples in the manual without having any issues ( apart from a lack of understanding on my part at times [noparse]:o[/noparse]) )
Regarding the alternative font... that is wierd.· The font is 1.37 MB, and that's what I see installed on mine and it works fine.· I can't explain the 133 KB file at all, very, very strange.
Jeff, aka Unsoundcode, and I talked off-line and when he tried another test, he was able to duplicate the problem once again, but not anytime after that.
Now, if he swaps the new Parallax.ttf file (from Propeller Tool v1.05.8) with the old Parallax.ttf file (from Propeller Tool v1.05.7), or vice versa, both work just fine (no problem).·· Note that the font itself was not changed between these versions of the Propeller Tool, so I was baffled as to why swapping them would have any effect at all.
At this point, neither of us can figure out why his system was behaving the way it was, nor can either of us duplicate the problem.
For anyone else who sees this thread and is about to delete their Parallax.ttf font from their Windows\fonts folder... please
· 1) Copy it out of the fonts folder first (and rename it to indicate it was the original).
· 2) Delete it from the fonts folder.
· 3) Run the Propeller Tool again (which should reinstall the Parallax.ttf font in the fonts folder).
· 4) Copy the "new" Parallax.ttf file from the fonts folder (and rename it to indicate it was the new one).
· 5) If step 2/3 seemed to fix your display issue, please zip-up and email me the two font files for me to compare.· I believe they will be the same and the problem really has something to do with an additional support file that Windows is supposed to update upon font installation... but I'd like to verify that there is, or is not, any difference between the two fonts in question.
I have same problem and I Regenerated TTF font in my system.
It is problem in Win if font file has monospacing marked.
I removed it and all problems is gone.
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I have been having lots of problems with the font on Linux both in native apps and under wine. I fount that SOME points sizes worked kind of OK, but none perfectly.
Prompted by this thread, I think I found a fix that works, simply remove all the bitmap fonts from the font file. I used fontforge to do this, and now it displays fine on my Linux box. While its probably not the ideal way to fix it, its better than broken on some boxes.
I did have a go at fixing the font for resolution changes... I seem to have had some success with that as I can use resolutions 8-30 with no issues now. (though I'm not sure if I broke it in fun new ways in the process)
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Jeff T.
EDIT. I appreciated the crash course for the character map too
Post Edited (Unsoundcode) : 10/22/2007 2:24:34 AM GMT
I downloaded v1.05.8 thinking that may be the trouble and almost freaked out when it opened with a huge overlapping 72pt font. So yesterday I discovered how to adjust font size and how to use the character chart.
Kens hint about the Parallax font led me to adjusting my windows settings , rebooting my computer and finally deleting the Parallax font from the Windows\Font folder which did the trick.
thanks for the input
Jeff T.
If you can answer some questions, it may help me determine what caused your problem (we've been unable to duplicate the exact problem you had):
1) What OS are you using?
2) When you ran v1.05.7 for the first time, were you logged in with a different user account than when you fixed the problem?· If so, what were the differences in the permission settings for the users?
3) What "windows settings" did you adjust before you deleted the Parallax.ttf font?
4) Have you checked to see if the Parallax.ttf font is installed again?
The Propeller Tool checks the Windows Fonts folder for the Parallax.ttf font upon startup, and if not there, it installs it.· If the user permissions are too low to allow it to install, it will instead use a memory-resident image of the font for every session.
I've never heard anyone say that deleting the font solved the problem, and it doesn't make sense given the nature of the software.· What would make more sense is that the "windows settings" you changed fixed it; such as changing the "Language for non-Unicode Programs" setting to English (United States).
Thank you for your time.
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--Jeff Martin
· Sr. Software Engineer
· Parallax, Inc.
1) OS Win XP Pro
2) The desktop is a one user account and I have administrative rights allthough McAfee will occasionally tell me I don't.
3) I have a 19" wide screen LCD set at 1440x900 and 96 DPI , I adjusted to 1024 x 768 without any effect then from 96 DPI to 120 DPI without any effect. I tried various font sizes in the IDE with Ctrl up/down. No other settings have been altered. I restored the settings I began with and rebooted before eventually deleting the font file. The Propeller tool works great on my laptop which is Win XP home edition.
4) Yes the alternative Parallax font is installed, there is a large difference in file size. The file I deleted is 1.37 MB and the existing is 133 KB. Restoring the larger file brings the problem back. I have kept the file that gives me the problem.
Since deleting the original fonts I have worked the examples in the manual without having any issues ( apart from a lack of understanding on my part at times [noparse]:o[/noparse]) )
Jeff T.
Regarding the alternative font... that is wierd.· The font is 1.37 MB, and that's what I see installed on mine and it works fine.· I can't explain the 133 KB file at all, very, very strange.
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--Jeff Martin
· Sr. Software Engineer
· Parallax, Inc.
Just to update everyone who reads this thread:
Jeff, aka Unsoundcode, and I talked off-line and when he tried another test, he was able to duplicate the problem once again, but not anytime after that.
Now, if he swaps the new Parallax.ttf file (from Propeller Tool v1.05.8) with the old Parallax.ttf file (from Propeller Tool v1.05.7), or vice versa, both work just fine (no problem).·· Note that the font itself was not changed between these versions of the Propeller Tool, so I was baffled as to why swapping them would have any effect at all.
At this point, neither of us can figure out why his system was behaving the way it was, nor can either of us duplicate the problem.
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--Jeff Martin
· Sr. Software Engineer
· Parallax, Inc.
Yours, Tom P.
For anyone else who sees this thread and is about to delete their Parallax.ttf font from their Windows\fonts folder... please
· 1) Copy it out of the fonts folder first (and rename it to indicate it was the original).
· 2) Delete it from the fonts folder.
· 3) Run the Propeller Tool again (which should reinstall the Parallax.ttf font in the fonts folder).
· 4) Copy the "new" Parallax.ttf file from the fonts folder (and rename it to indicate it was the new one).
· 5) If step 2/3 seemed to fix your display issue, please zip-up and email me the two font files for me to compare.· I believe they will be the same and the problem really has something to do with an additional support file that Windows is supposed to update upon font installation... but I'd like to verify that there is, or is not, any difference between the two fonts in question.
Thank you.
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--Jeff Martin
· Sr. Software Engineer
· Parallax, Inc.
I have same problem and I Regenerated TTF font in my system.
It is problem in Win if font file has monospacing marked.
I removed it and all problems is gone.
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Nothing is impossible, there are only different degrees of difficulty.
Sapieha
It's strange that it happens sometimes on some machines and not more consistently.
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--Jeff Martin
· Sr. Software Engineer
· Parallax, Inc.
Win is strange thing no conseqence in it at all.
It's nationela versions have very strange problems.
Ps. I vork in 3 nationela versions and have problem in compatiblity in some functions.
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Sapieha
Post Edited (Sapieha) : 11/6/2007 12:55:31 AM GMT
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--Jeff Martin
· Sr. Software Engineer
· Parallax, Inc.
Test this font.
It is my regenerated font.
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Nothing is impossible, there are only different degrees of difficulty.
Sapieha
Prompted by this thread, I think I found a fix that works, simply remove all the bitmap fonts from the font file. I used fontforge to do this, and now it displays fine on my Linux box. While its probably not the ideal way to fix it, its better than broken on some boxes.
Detailed instructions are on the Propeller wiki http://propeller.wikispaces.com/Propeller+Font, including how you can install the font on (gnome?) Linux boxes.
If you want to test it out quickly a modified font is attached. If this works, hopefully we can get the official one fixed.