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CrashmdcCrashmdc Posts: 8
edited 2007-10-07 01:29 in General Discussion
I want to start playing around with Linux and have loaded it on an older computer I have here (PCLinux 2007) I have not been able to figure out how to install the PBasic tools on the machine. I have been able to uncompress them, and attempt to run the "Make" command from the Konsole, but get errors.

Any one here use Linux, and have some tips on how to get it working for someone who has NEVER used Linux before?

Thanks
Mike

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  • Harrison.Harrison. Posts: 484
    edited 2007-10-01 04:38
    Which pbasic tools did you download? It is difficult to help without the actual tool download link and the actual error messages.
  • CrashmdcCrashmdc Posts: 8
    edited 2007-10-01 04:46
    I downloaded the ones on the Parallax site, and tried following the directions located at http://bstamp.sourceforge.net/install/. I also tried to follow some of the directions at http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/64958-how-install-software-linux.html and got a little further along (up to where you type ./configure which did not work. There is a "makefile" included in the download which I did try to run, and got some errors.)

    I will be on a business trip for a couple of days, but will post the actual error message when I get back.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2007-10-01 12:22
    You can have Linux emulate the Microsoft Windows environment and use the Windows version of PBasic in it.

    That would be under Parallax Downloads 'Software for Windows'

    Or

    You can use the strickly Linux version by looking under Parallax Downloads 'Software for Linux'

    Choosing one or the other would be your first decision.· It seems like you have already choose the strickly Linux.· In that case, the installation is likely to be bit steeper learning curve to a begineer.

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    Post Edited (Kramer) : 10/1/2007 12:27:08 PM GMT
  • crgwbrcrgwbr Posts: 614
    edited 2007-10-02 14:06
    To have Linux emulate windows, use "Wine." Do a Google search for it, you should have know problem finding it. In case you're curious, Wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator." Linux guys love recursive acronyms for some reason.

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  • WhelzornWhelzorn Posts: 256
    edited 2007-10-02 14:23
    make sure when you type ./configure, you are in the program's directory
    so at a new terminal, type cd /whatever/stampbc124 (just make sure you extracted the entire directory from the .tgz)
    then you should be in the directory.
    Actually I don't think you need to do a ./configure if you downloaded the stampbc124.tgz

    so if you're already in the directory:
    type "make clean" (no quotes)
    then "make"
    then "su" (it'll ask you for your password, unless you're already root)
    then "make install"
    after that, it should be ready to use.
  • D FaustD Faust Posts: 608
    edited 2007-10-02 21:52
    Note: I;m not a LINUX user

    Does the propeller tool work on linux?· Is any extra software needed?

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2007-10-02 22:36
    I've not been able to get the Propeller Tool to work under Wine. There's a commercial version of Wine (by CodeWeavers) that does a little better at pretending to be Windows 2000, but the serial I/O doesn't seem to work under it either and there's some kind of bug ... I get an "Illegal access to location 00000005" message that seems to be ignorable.
  • D FaustD Faust Posts: 608
    edited 2007-10-02 22:50
    Thanks

    Anybody have a solution.

    Is there a plan for a Mac or Linux proptool like the mac and linux stamp editors?

    PS: sorry for the thread "hijaction" hope you get the editor running

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    Post Edited (D Faust) : 10/3/2007 12:58:01 AM GMT
  • CrashmdcCrashmdc Posts: 8
    edited 2007-10-04 04:12
    Okay guys...back in town, and here is what happens...(all Greek to me)...
    As I said originally, I wanted to get to know Linux, but maybe I should stick with XP?

    Thanks for any help...
    Mike



    [noparse][[/noparse]root@new-host bstamp]# ls
    bstamp-2006.05.31.tar.gz pbasic_examples/
    bstamp_run.cpp PBASIC_Tokenizer_Software_Distribution_License.pdf*
    bstamp_tokenize.cpp* PBASIC_Tokenizer_Software_Distribution_License.txt
    CHANGES.txt README.txt
    COPYING.txt TODO.txt
    error_handling.cpp tokenizer.h*
    GPL.txt tokenizer.so
    Makefile

    [noparse][[/noparse]root@new-host bstamp]# make clean
    rm bstamp_run
    rm: cannot remove `bstamp_run': No such file or directory
    make: [noparse][[/noparse]clean] Error 1 (ignored)
    rm bstamp_tokenize
    rm: cannot remove `bstamp_tokenize': No such file or directory
    make: [noparse][[/noparse]clean] Error 1 (ignored)
    rm *.o
    rm: cannot remove `*.o': No such file or directory
    make: [noparse][[/noparse]clean] Error 1 (ignored)

    [noparse][[/noparse]root@new-host bstamp]# make install
    cp bstamp_tokenize /usr/local/bin/
    cp: cannot stat `bstamp_tokenize': No such file or directory
    make: *** [noparse][[/noparse]install] Error 1
    [noparse][[/noparse]root@new-host bstamp]#
  • D FaustD Faust Posts: 608
    edited 2007-10-04 18:31
    You might get better answers on somehting like this from a Linux forums such as: http://www.linux.com/forums/.

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  • Harrison.Harrison. Posts: 484
    edited 2007-10-04 22:51
    It looks like there was no compilation involved. Make install seems to only move the built binaries into your /usr/local/bin. So try a 'make' with no args to let the make do it's default make process (most likely compilation).

    So do this:

    make clean
    make
    make install
  • CrashmdcCrashmdc Posts: 8
    edited 2007-10-06 19:23
    Well...no joy...Linux appears to me to be to complex if you are not going with a "mainstream" application. I ended up loading XP on the machine.

    Maybe I will give it a shot later on down the road.

    Thanks for all the help!

    Mike
  • Spork FrogSpork Frog Posts: 212
    edited 2007-10-07 01:29
    Here's the process you should do:

    make (NOT "make clean")
    make install

    The problem was it wasn't actually compiling it.
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