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30 Million Dollar Project looking for anyone who is interested.

DgswanerDgswaner Posts: 795
edited 2011-07-25 22:10 in General Discussion
space.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn12647&feedId=online-news_rss20

I think We as a Parallax community should do a joint venture on this project. 30Mil split is still a big chunk of change. We can have the rover preprogrammed to write out "Parallax" in the dust on the moon, large enough to see by telescope. plus we could see if we can find evidence of the apolo missions to finally end the debate about the moon landings to be faked. anyone happen happen know how to build a rocket that will make it to the moon?

you've really got to love Google! (not joking)

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  • D FaustD Faust Posts: 608
    edited 2007-09-14 22:01
    It would probably cost 30 million to make the thing (not the electronics but the rugged exterior, and the fact of launching it!) Anyway, cool article.

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  • parts-man73parts-man73 Posts: 830
    edited 2007-09-15 00:01
    I've always wanted to be a rocket scientist!

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  • PJAllenPJAllen Banned Posts: 5,065
    edited 2007-09-15 02:16
    Things like this remind of an entry that I once read in a "Ripley's Believe It or Not": two men, having nothing better to do, made a $20·wager (a bet)·as to·who could eat the more expensive lunch and the "winner" had a sandwich --·a $100-bill between two slices of bread.

    And now you know... the r-r-rest of the story.

    Anyway, carry on.
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2007-09-15 04:11
    We could at least try to get a Propeller to the moom!

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  • sam_sam_samsam_sam_sam Posts: 2,286
    edited 2007-09-15 04:51
    Dgswaner

    Now this a cool idea but what i want to know is this WHO is going this MUCH MONEY and want to SPEND it
    on this

    Do not get me wrong i would like to see the Propeller·on·the·Moon doing it thing sending back photos
    and movies

    And also this

    We can have the rover preprogrammed to write out "Parallax" in the dust on the moon, large enough to see by telescope. plus we could see if we can find evidence of the Apollo missions to finally end the debate about the moon landings to be faked.··· GOOD idea.gif

    Now this would be a good way find out once and for all if this was fake or not

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  • DgswanerDgswaner Posts: 795
    edited 2007-09-15 05:00
    I must be heading toward destiny, I just watched the Astronauts farmer! he did it for like 100K

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  • skylightskylight Posts: 1,915
    edited 2007-09-15 05:25
    They did land on the moon, here's the proof:

    sheep_fake_300.jpg

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  • D FaustD Faust Posts: 608
    edited 2007-09-15 11:43
    HAHA [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • AJ-9000AJ-9000 Posts: 52
    edited 2011-07-24 18:29
    Google's $30.000000 prize for the first private organization to put a working rover on the moon, what if they changed that to the first organization that can make a small automated factory on earth capable of making another factory made of elements only found on the moon that's also self replicating and only utilizes sunlight for power.

    This would be to demonstrate that it might be possible to be done on the moon with the end purpose being to have factories there building other factories to use them to build a colony on the moon.

    By the way this was already proposed and a summery of it is here in chapter, "Advanced Automation for Space Missions" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanking_replicator

    This was proposed in 1980 and I can't understand why projects like this haven't aleady been done, I guess they are waiting for better technology.

    If these factories were stated in 1990 there could be a colony by now and in another 100 years the entier planet could be colonized.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2011-07-24 22:46
    One of the Google founders, Larry I think, proposed the moon as a great co-lo for a data center. Solar power, great cooling, etc...
  • Pharseid380Pharseid380 Posts: 26
    edited 2011-07-25 02:10
    A group did form here several years ago. You can read much of the discussion on the Yahoo LunarX group.

    -phar
  • Dave HeinDave Hein Posts: 6,347
    edited 2011-07-25 13:41
    I was involved in the group that started on this forum a few years ago. We did use the Yahoo LunarX group to discuss ideas, but this is a closed group and it's not open to the public. The group adopted the name PropelX, and we worked out some details on the rover, rocket propulsion, radio communications, power budgets rad-hard electronics and thermal control. At some point we realized that it would cost a significant amount of money (millions of dollars) to acquire a launch vehicle to put our spacecraft into earth orbit. The group disbanded shortly after that realization.

    The Google Lunar X-Prize (GLXP) website is at http://googlelunarxprize.org . There are 28 active teams, and another 5 registered teams that have withdrawn from the competition. This competition is probably best suited for groups that are prepared to invest millions of dollars to develop an aerospace company.
  • Kevin WoodKevin Wood Posts: 1,266
    edited 2011-07-25 15:05
    >>> One of the Google founders, Larry I think, proposed the moon as a great co-lo for a data center. Solar power, great cooling, etc...

    Then they would build a huge video array to display "targeted advertisements" that you wouldn't be able to get rid of with Adblock.
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
    edited 2011-07-25 15:32
    Kevin Wood wrote: »
    Then they would build a huge video array to display "targeted advertisements" that you wouldn't be able to get rid of with Adblock.

    In Heinlein's story The Man Who Sold the Moon, the titular salesman gets private corporate funding for lunar exploration by threatening his sponsors with the possibility that their competitors might turn the Moon into a giant, permanent logo billboard.
  • markaericmarkaeric Posts: 282
    edited 2011-07-25 15:47
    I would have to imagine that the rover design would be the easiest part of the entire project. A small satellite would be a way more practical (but still extremely difficult) start.

    What about an altitude augmented launching platform? Sort of like what what Scaled Composites did with the SS1, but instead of using a high altitude launch jet, perhaps use balloons as they would be substantially cheaper. It won't win any prize money, but it would be an awesome project!
  • Pharseid380Pharseid380 Posts: 26
    edited 2011-07-25 22:10
    The balloon approach is suggested a lot. I like the idea of making the project as small as possible, breaking up the lunar payload into a bunch of smaller packages to be assembled in low Earth orbit. Use an RC turborocket or turbojet/RAMjet first stage to get to Mach 5, a rocket plane second stage, and hopefully the third stage makes it to LEO. SS1 only got to Mach 6 if I remember correctly, it illustrates the difficulty of getting to Mach 25.

    As an aside, the idea of breaking it down originally came from looking at the ungodly cost of rad-hard electronics. I came across a relatively cheap rad-hard 8051 derivative, 100 units minimum and I was thinking "what would I do with 100 rad-hard 8051's?" I still wish I had bought them and sold them to other LunarX teams.

    -phar
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