Can't find pink in IPsetup. anymore
Dgswaner
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I followed the instructions, found the PINK module in the ipsetup program set an ip of 192.168.15.255 and the network mask to 255.255.255.0 (same as my computer). I tried to browse to the default page but it can't find it. and the IPsetup program can no longer find the pink. I didn't set up the gateway or DNS was that my mistake.
I'm powering the pink module from a BS2 Super carrier board.
the power light is on and the it connects at 100 mbps, the transmit light blinks when it's first powered like it is communicating.
I've tried using the Null modem cable and plugging it directly into my computer.
I've used it through my Switch with the same result.
Windows firewall is off
when I ping 192.168.15.255 it responds.
I've tried browsing using IE and foxfire on 2 computers
I've used the ipsetup on 2 computers.
Is there a way to set it back to the default settings? am I missing something?
Thanks for the help
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I'm powering the pink module from a BS2 Super carrier board.
the power light is on and the it connects at 100 mbps, the transmit light blinks when it's first powered like it is communicating.
I've tried using the Null modem cable and plugging it directly into my computer.
I've used it through my Switch with the same result.
Windows firewall is off
when I ping 192.168.15.255 it responds.
I've tried browsing using IE and foxfire on 2 computers
I've used the ipsetup on 2 computers.
Is there a way to set it back to the default settings? am I missing something?
Thanks for the help
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Comments
The reason why pinging 192.168.15.255 works is because you are effectively issuing a broadcast icmp packet which causes all devices on the same subnet to respond. The ping window generally shows only one response per icmp sequence (doesn't matter how many computers responded), which is why you were led to believe that the ip addressing worked.
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Method 1: What you will need to do is try to setup a static arp table entry using the arp command. This 'may' allow you to reach the device using the multicast address. Using an arp table entry may or may not work depending on how the tcp/ip stack was written. If the stack checks for an ip match then it won't work. If it just checks for a MAC address match then it should work. (Most devices will check the MAC address first for fast filtering, then check the IP address for tcp filtering since tcp/ip does not use broadcasts since its a stateful protocol).
Example for adding a static arp table entry (Windows, and possibly Unix variants):
arp -s 192.168.15.255 00-aa-00-62-c6-09
Replace 00-aa-00-62-c6-09 with your PINK module MAC address (it's on a label on the module). You may need to delete the entry after you are done (or restart), otherwise other multicasting applications may fail to work.
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Method 2 (Recommended, and more likely to work): The second method of accessing the misconfigured PINK is to reconfigure your computer's subnet. Set your subnet to something like 255.255.0.0, which will make the range x.x.0.1 - x.x.255.254 a valid ip range. This nicely includes your ip 192.168.15.255, which then allows you to access the PINK. Note that you should reset your old subnet back since incorrect subnet settings can cause routing issues (you not being able to reach computers/devices outside of your real subnet).
Note for Parallax/Netburner: You may want to update the ipsetup tool so it alerts the user about incorrect ip address settings (such as a user using an ip address outside of the valid tcp ip addressing range for the subnet).
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EDIT: Added second, more likely to work method.
Harrison
Post Edited (Harrison.) : 6/8/2007 6:08:09 AM GMT
of all the possibilities to choose from I would choose the one that won't work. and I did it on my first try!
I looked on the netburner site and that was of little help. there has to be some sort of way to default this thing back to no ip.
thanks for trying though.
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I may have been using the wrong MAC address. the only number I could see that was even close to a mac address was on a big sticker on the unit. I just noticed that on the package that it's the serial number. unless they are the same then I wasn't using the mac address nor do I know the mac address.
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Post Edited (Dgswaner) : 6/8/2007 8:30:51 AM GMT
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- Rick
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Set your PC's IP settings to:
IP: 192.168.15.200
Subnet: 255.255.0.0
Gateway/DNS: 0.0.0.0
Now try to ping 192.168.15.255. You should be able to get a ping response (this is to prove you have a valid ethernet link signal). Then go to your browser and try http://192.168.15.255 . You should be able to access it now since the ip should now be a valid ip in the specified subnet range.
Harrison
it said limited or no connection.
I changed my ip address and subnet to what is listed above. it they said network connected.
I tried to ping the pink and it didn't work.
I did the arp command listed above and then tried to ping Pink didn;t work.
I tried browsing and using the IPsetup tool. did not work.
I am getting a different message, when browsing it says connection refused.
Perhaps there is something else going on. Thanks for your time and effort.
Kinda [noparse]:([/noparse] I wanted the weekend to play with this.
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We'll also need a terminal program
Power cycle the unit with the serial cable attached.
Type A to abort will appear if you are on the correct serial port.
While booting the device is looking for an "A" on the serial input.
Once it sees the A, it knows you don't want to jump into the application, instaed it halts the boot process and presents a menu of device setup options.
Type "Help"
Type "Setup"
Type "1" and enter new address.
Done
After you exit...
I didn't think it would be hard to connect a serial port but looking at the pin outs I can only match about 4 of the 9 pins. I know all might not be required but I don't know which ones are critical. her is what I came up with
PINK serial
1 ground serial port
2 cts1 1 dcd
3 tx1 3 2 RxD
4 rx1 2 3 TxD
5 rts1 7 4 DTR
6 trs0 5 SG
7 cts0 8 6 DSR
8 tx0 7 RTS
9 5v 8 CTS
10 rx0 9 RI
if anyone could help me on the pin outs for the serial connection i would appreciate it.
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As for the pinouts of the connector, they are listed below...
This is an alternate way to access the internal setup and make changes if you cannot see the module from the IPSETUP program.· I hope this helps.· Take care.
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Chris Savage
Parallax Tech Support
Post Edited (Chris Savage (Parallax)) : 6/8/2007 10:36:40 PM GMT
1. Connect the hardware in one of the above configurations
2. Open a command prompt window (DOS) on the Host Computer.
3. Verify everything is connected correctly by typing the command "ping 10.1.1.2" and pressing the
“Enter” key. You should see a valid ping response.
4. Run Telnet by typing: "telnet 10.1.1.2 9221" and pressing then “Enter” key. This assumes a
default port number of 9221. Note: You can replace this default port number with the port number
you assigned during configuration.
5. Run Hyper Terminal or MTTTY. Set the baud rate to the value you assigned the SB70 during
configuration. The default baud rate is 115,200.
6. At this point anything you type in Telnet should appear in the serial terminal window and vice
versa.
everything works perfect up to step 4 I get a "Could not open connection to the host" error.
on step 5 if I connect to the com port nothing happens except I get a "
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Chris Savage
Parallax Tech Support