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PID or differential gap

DunnseptDunnsept Posts: 115
edited 2007-04-25 12:17 in General Discussion
I am going to make a temperature controller for a chest freezer (for lagering beer)
I will build it with an SX protoboard. my question is more of a generic one for your process control guys,
should I try to go for PID on it.· most of the commercial (cheaper) controllers have a band of about 3.5
degrees. the expensive ones are 1 degree. 3 or 4 degrees either way isn't going to matter much.
I guess I could go with something like P or I, or P and I instead of the full PID. The chest freezer is
obviously well insulated, but will sit in an un-insulated (as of now) barn
suggestions and/or tips appreciated. pics to come once it's finished..· oh.. and I'll be using a 10A SSR
for this too

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  • sam_sam_samsam_sam_sam Posts: 2,286
    edited 2007-04-25 02:40
    Dunnsept·


    The chest freezer is obviously well insulated, but will sit in an un-insulated (as of now) barn

    I Am a A/C Tech For Many Years

    One think to think about is that if the barn dose not have good air flow you will have problem with your· Chest Freezer· The compresor will have work VERY hard to Get Rid of All of the Heat·that in the Chest and the Heat From the Compressor and the heat in the·barn·Meaning that it will RUN ALL THE TIME And not meet The temp iin side of the chest freezer box will not be meet and so it will run all of the time
    The life of your compressor·will be·shorten

    One more thing to think about is that you DO NOT want the Compressor to Run and Shut OFF and then ReStart for at LEAST FIVE MINUTES
    Or longer that depends on the compressor and how long it take for the compressor to want to start again·most are at least five minutes
    You also want this if the power gose out and then come right back·ON you will·want this delay
    ·If you do·not·follow this·the life of your compressor·will be·shorten

    This not a bad ·idea.gif·to have a the Temp controled with a·SX ProtoBoard

    ·Most of the commercial (cheaper) controllers have a band of about 3.5 degrees. the expensive ones are 1 degree. 3 or 4 degrees either way isn't going to matter much ...............They also have a Five minutes delay ....................

    If·I where builting this controler

    This is how i would go about it

    One

    When the Basic Stamp frist power up wait Five Minutes

    Then start if temp has not been·meet then

    Check temp when the temp has been meet·· Let say at·35 *F

    ·Then Turn OFF

    Check Temp when temp has gone to 36 *F

    Has Five minutes past

    If so Then restart

    If not wait for Five Minutes

    Two

    I would have an alarm that would sound if the box Temp has gone to let say 40·*F

    Three

    I would also have an alarm to sound if your Barn Temp is any higher than 90*F

    This is Just Some· idea.gif·s of What Can Be Done


    ·Please let me how this project come along i would like to see what you come up with

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    Post Edited (sam_sam_sam) : 4/25/2007 3:11:11 AM GMT
  • DunnseptDunnsept Posts: 115
    edited 2007-04-25 12:17
    thanks Sam.. that's great info. I had not thought about a delay or an alarm

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