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Shaft Connectors

Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
edited 2006-12-21 19:08 in General Discussion
All--

I need to connect two shafts, both about the same size (0.118" or so). One is square and the other is a "D." Can you point me towards a source for shaft connectors? (Just something in general; if I have a link I can research from there . . . as I will do right now.)

Merry Christmas!

--Bill

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2006-12-19 03:07
    All--

    Maybe I will just make this little rigid coupling. Say, 1/4" or 3/8" rod, drill an undersized·hole through the center, shape one half (or less) of·the length of the hole square with a needle file to fit the square shaft, leave the other half round, but ream it to a precise fit, drill and tap both ends for set screws?

    In reality, I could probably get away with leaving it all round and maybe putting two set screws in the end that is supposed to fit the square shaft. That would reduce my "manufacturing" significantly and give me a good enough coupling for my experimental use.

    --Bill

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  • KatyBriKatyBri Posts: 171
    edited 2006-12-19 03:35
    Bill,

    To mate shafts with different style ends, I have used thick-walled heat-shrink tubing. As long as there is not a lot of torque involved, it works pretty well.
  • Roger PiersonRoger Pierson Posts: 62
    edited 2006-12-19 04:03
    In general, when connecting two shafts you want to us a fexible coupling to prevent binding if the two parts get slightly mis-aligned during their rotation.

    You'll have to search around for a distributor, but this is an example of what I'm talking about:

    www.rinomechanical.com/shftcoup.htm

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2006-12-19 13:17
    Roger Pierson and KatyBri--

    KatyBri: Thanks! But I need to move quite a bit of torque and wonder if shrink tubing would work? (What a great idea, though!)

    Roger: Gee. Rino has exactly what I need! The only problem is that their minimum order is $250.00. Still, if I figure out the precise part, I will need about 16 of them. (I e-mailed them for pricing and they responded within seconds.) They referred me to mcmaster. I THINK I have looked at their site, but not for couplings.

    --Bill



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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2006-12-19 13:39
    Roger--

    It appears that McMaster has an even greater selection and their minimum order is ten bucks! (I have bought stuff from them before.)

    --Bill

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  • Roger PiersonRoger Pierson Posts: 62
    edited 2006-12-19 14:51
    I use McMaster quite often at work, but I never thought of getting couplers from them. Thats great news!

    Another common sourse I use for misc. hardware is Fastenal:

    www.fastenal.com/web/home.ex

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2006-12-19 16:06
    This thread is being moved from the·BASIC Stamp·Forum to the·Sandbox Forum.

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2006-12-19 17:11
    Can you reshape the square shaft to round. It would simplify much of your problem.

    0.118" isn't much of a shaft. The Japanese mechanical toy company TAMIYA, uses small square shafts and has plastic fittings to adapt wheel hubs. If that is the same origin as yours, you might do better to stay with all square shaft as the torque transfer is quite good for a friction fit.

    For really small shafts, collets provide a much better grip than a set screw. Some of these are available from R/C Airplane and Boat people. Set screw is the for the next increment up [noparse][[/noparse]usually 1/4' shafts]. Larger shafts use keyways to transfer substantial torque.

    Going to a larger shaft size might actually make it easier to find fittings. If you use aluminum tubing for your shaft, the weight is somewhat reduced [noparse][[/noparse]50% of iron], while gaining a size that is workable.

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,389
    edited 2006-12-19 19:34
    Bill,

    Parallax often orders from Rino Mechanical (parts for Toddlers, Penguins). I've never known that we've had to experience with their $250 minimum order. If there's a part (or many) you need from them, tell me what it is and I'll get it for you.

    Ken Gracey
    Parallax, Inc.
  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2006-12-20 17:12
    Kramer--

    The square shaft is actually 0.10" on a side. It is a right angle attachment for a rotoray Dremel tool and may be good for what I need if I can connect it to the 0.118" shaft of my chosen Banebot gearmotor.

    I have ordered a (very inexpensive) slotted disc coupler from McMaster for testing. However, it is 0.125" in diameter. Maybe a little too big.

    I've also thought of making my own out of aluminum or mild steel rod stock. But, anything I made would not have a misalignment capability.

    If I can mate the shafts, the Dremel right angle attachment ($29.00 at Lowes) will be a good solution for a lot of motors. I have collets laying around and thought about them last night after I went to bed. Basically, I need to make the gearmotor look like the end of a Dremel rotary tool. I don't think it will be too hard. In fact, IF I can do that, then there is enough slop in the Dremel supplied square coupling to take care of misalignment.

    --Bill

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2006-12-20 17:13
    Ken--

    Thank you! I will remember your offer.

    --Bill

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2006-12-20 18:03
    I understand the gearmotor and the D shaft is somewhat trivial as it can center on a collet.

    But that square shaft is a troublesome item.
    Much depends on how many RPMs you are spinning at. A Dremel tool usually spins at thousands. This requires a very good fit. But it you are running at 300 RPM or less, you might find that the fit isn't too critical.

    I am assume the square is a shaft, not a female fitting. Can you cannibalize the counterpart {the female fitting} from something and adapt it?

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  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
    edited 2006-12-20 20:00
    You may want to contact Tim at the dumpstercnc.com He makes some very nice stuff with Delrin, and could probably make you a custom coupler. I predict that since it is such a small shaft( .10 square) that you could simply use a round coupler with the approporate radius and it will work fine. There is only so much torque available from a .1 shafted motor, and the Delrin is used in very high torque applications all the time.

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  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-12-20 20:09
    If you use a delrin coupler, use one a tad bit smaller than the outside radius of the shaft ( corner to corner ),
    as the square edges should make their own slots in the coupler...

    Bob
  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2006-12-21 19:08
    Kramer and originator·and Bob--

    Thanks for the good advice!

    Kramer: For the first effort, I will be using a 26 rpm gearmotor at 535 oz-in, free-running. So, pretty slow.

    originator: I'll definitely check out that link you gave me!

    Bob: Thanks for the hint on sizing. Great idea.

    I have a "slotted disc coupling" coming from McMaster-Carr. I believe it is about 0.007" too big. But, it will give me some ideas. I believe I have everything I need to make a rigid coupling. I could probably put enough slop in it to take care of any misalignment.

    --Bill

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